Apple loses ringtone infringement case to Nokia and Sony's patent troll firm
posted by Ben R. / Sep 21, 2016, 2:08 PM
Apple has been ordered to pony up $3 million in damages by a Delaware judge for infringing the patent of a firm partially owned by Sony and Nokia. The case, which has been running since way back in 2010, saw MobileMedia Ideas originally accuse Apple on 16 counts of patent infringement. Six years and plenty of court activity later, the original claim has been whittled down to just one patent pertaining to iPhone ringer alerts, for which MobileMedia has been awarded a tidy sum of money.
Specifically, Apple has been found guilty of infringing a patent regarding the silencing of an incoming call without the caller knowing. A useful feature that many iPhone users take advantage of, the original invention is adjudged to have been MobileMedia's, hence the damages.
The MobileMedia Ideas vs. Apple case is particularly interesting since the former's sole existence is to collect patents. It apparently doesn't have any products or services to speak of, but has gone after HTC and BlackBerry along with Cupertino with patent claims. Both Sony and Nokia are among the names with a stake in MobileMedia Ideas, which has been dubbed a corporate troll on more than one occasion.
Still, while the old adage that the trolls always win may be true once again, this may feel like more of a loss for the good folks of MobileMedia. After all, the firm has only been awarded a fraction of the original $18 million it was apparently seeking, and $3 million seems a rather paltry reward for six years worth of effort and legal fees.
Plus, given Apple's vast cash reserves, the award is unlikely to affect the fruit company in any meaningful way.
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what a joke...
posted on Sep 21, 2016, 2:11 PM 5
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What a joke, bruh! Apple are copycats, they should pay all $18 million.
posted on Sep 21, 2016, 2:22 PM 24
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Apple sues over something, its fine. Someone else sues, they are patent trolls. Or at least that is the perspective that seems to be, so yeah.
posted on Sep 21, 2016, 2:17 PM 22
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Patent trolls are companies who have no products/low end products who seek to make their profit primarily through litigation. Were it actually Sony or Nokia they wouldn't be considered patent trolls.
posted on Sep 21, 2016, 3:13 PM 2
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Impossible! Apple are true innovators and would never eva eva copy other companies! Made up story. Fo sho!
posted on Sep 21, 2016, 2:21 PM 4
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Considering Apple has sued people with things it also didn't invent or make, makes them as much of a patent troll as any other company. However, if a company patented something and someone steals it, the law doesn't say you need to have an actual working product with said idea. The law only requires that you have filed it and it was granted. as long as the patent was granted, no one has a right to steal it. Even though they were award only $3M, that likely does not include the cost of 6 years of fighting the case, so Apple will be on the hook for that too. Death to all patent trolls or trolls in general. Apple has plenty of money. If they see a tech they want to use, they should be willing to license it and use it. Stealing with the risk of getting busted, means you will be on the hook for more money and the risk of having a product banned is not worth it.
posted on Sep 21, 2016, 2:32 PM 3
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They also lost another case which the patents is also owned by Nokia originally. The News is from yesterday btw. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/09/patent-firm-hits-apple-with-22-1m-verdict-over-lte-patent/
posted on Sep 21, 2016, 4:52 PM 1
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Out of topic, it's took around 4-5 mins when you can post a comment lol. It is so f**ing bad, Over at gsmarena with adblock off, it's flying fast.
posted on Sep 21, 2016, 5:17 PM 0
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