iPhone 6 could come in July, and iOS 8 may expand TouchID capabilities
6. akki20892 (Posts: 3896; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Looks like to me they will launch in September. I'm waiting what they come up with. Interesting to see how bigger iPhone looks like and iOS8. Maybe design has been change.
24. zuckerboy (banned) (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
agree but it wont happen imo cuz every year they say the same thing and apple releases new iphone in september.
3. ihavenoname (Posts: 1693; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)
I wonder if they are going to release more 4 inch phones, besides bigger ones. Some people really value the compact form factor. I'm more big screen guy, but I somehow really like the iPhone 5S and Z1 Compact size, too.
4. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
for the way that Apple overcharges it customers, it should come out with a 4.5-5 inch iphone so that people with the tinier iphones will see what they have been missing for all of these years....
11. buccob (Posts: 2481; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Well I don't understand what you are comparing...
Prize and Screen size are not really proportional things... you have to take into account resolution, density, color accuracy, contrast, brigthness (max and min), durability and so on...
I have never owned an iPhone because in my opinion and the way I use my devices, there have always been a better alternative... BUT even though Apple charges way too much for their phones, they are actually good in quality.
And btw I would rather have a 4.3" Z1 Compact, than a low end Xperia M2 with 4.7"... and yes the Z1 Compact is more expensive...
14. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
oh, very true, but the size at least gives customers the illusion of bigger size at the same price = better value...As for quality? Seriously, you really think Apple has the best quality? Tell that to those people who paid extra for the APPLE CARE+ warranty program - iphones, at least before the 5, are typically, very fragile devices...the build quality that people allude to as 'premium' is an illusion created by their great marketing team. I would say that Apple has been improving on their quality, and I do admit that I like the way my wife's new ipad air 2 looks - but, for the price, that always is a turn off to me...
18. buccob (Posts: 2481; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Read again my comment... and try not jumping into conclusions. I said "they are actually good in quality" I never said that they were the best... but you can't deny that they are actually good when you look at numbers...
And like I said, I have never owned an iPhone... nor I am apple's fan...
I actually agree with your idea... it is just that you could have explained yourself better...
And yes, Apple devices' price is always a turn off... That is why I have Sony Xperia, and ASUS notebook... (They are actually very good in quality, style and at least the ASUS notebook I have is good for the money I payed, 40% less than my sister's MacBook Pro, with my ASUS having similar and even better specs)
17. Salazzi (Posts: 537; Member since: 17 Feb 2014)
I don't understand how Apple sells "overpriced phones".. I looked at best buy, the GS4 was $700 as well as the LG G2.. the iPhone is $650. Some may claim specs but as what you pointed about the screen qualities (color accuracy, brightness, durability), Apple is unrivaled. Take any phone and compare it to the iphone. I've done quite a few right here on PA and the iPhone has the best screen out of them all, accounting color accuracy and brightness. Processor? Sure it has a dual core, but you've all (I hope) have seen the tests between GS4 and other devices vs Apple, where the GS4 got lower scores than Apple on both multi-core as well as single core, despite these other devices often running at a higher clock speed with more cores. The only device that beat apple and it was only by a small bit, was the note 3, which lost on the single score but has just an inch better on multi-core. Look up any test, be it graphics, processor, ram, etc, and you'll see that Apple does in fact provide a lot. I'm not here to bicker about Android vs Apple, as I hold devices from both platforms dear to me. I'm merely here to bring attention to the fallacy that Apple is "overpriced" or provides "too little for too much". To be honest I EXPECTED and maybe even hoped a little, that some Android flagships would be be on par, if not even ahead of the iphone in some of the comparisons, only to find myself EXTREMELY surprised as to how well the iPhone holds up. It's competitors are priced the same and sometimes even more.. yet the tests speak for themselves that the iphone is NOT a subpar device by any standard.
19. buccob (Posts: 2481; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
So you are agreeing with my comment? because what you just said was the whole point I made...
Having a smaller screen than a phablet does not mean that the screen is bad... iPhone display's are among the best out there... Great color accuracy, contrast, brightness, etc...
That was my point...
But even though this is true, they charge the most per components than any other brand...
Yes, they have the marketing expertise to do it, and they have the brand recognition to do it... but that does take away the reality that they overcharge compared to other brands...
I like Sony, but can see that they also charge too much for what you get...
Compare prices on Moto G vs Xperia M... and then compare specs and you will see that Moto G is a much better choice... as much as I like Sony, it can't be denied...
28. Salazzi (Posts: 537; Member since: 17 Feb 2014)
I guess in a sense I was :) Tho I still feel they aren't technically overcharging per component since the components are on par if not better than the iPhone's competitors (hence me bringing up the processor tests where iPhone wipes the floor with its competition in both single core and multi-core, as well as other tests). It's just that you can't quite compare the iPhone to it's android counterparts. It's easy to say "GS4 has snapdragon 600 and LG G2 has snapdragon 800!", but such a comparison can't be made to iPhone. Since it usually does a custom tweak job to it's components (for example your average A7 chip is uncomparable to the Apples since apple had it structured differently than what's available to anyone else). I guess that's another added value, that Apple has most of the parts for it custom produced. I'd say pretty much all of the rest of the phone manufacturers take off the shelf parts (so to speak) and merely put them together, maybe with small customizations but nothing drastic like what Apple does.
20. SellPhones82 (Posts: 569; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
All three show as $699.99 when I check them on Best Buy. Pretty sure BB also ups the price of phones when they sell them outright. Compared to S4 and G2 they are priced the same but you're also getting more phone (or screen at least) with the S4 and G2 since you have an extra inch in screen size or basically 25% more screen for the same price. The S4 mini and G2 Mini are more the size of the 5S and look at the price of those outright. Now were're not even counting the Nexus 5, which at $350 ($450 not from Google) you can buy two N5's for the same amount as one iPhone 5S and the screen quality on those two is pretty damn close. "Overpriced" might not be the best term for Apple phone but they do have the highest profit margin (around 225%) year after year so many interpret that with them being overpriced. I'm sorry but the 5S is NOT $350 or $250 better than the Nexus 5 and both phones cost about the same to build.
22. hurrycanger (Posts: 1551; Member since: 01 Dec 2013)
4" is not so bad. If people are already happy with 4", I don't think there will be a problem. Unhappy people would have switched already. I know a lot of people who used to like the iPhone but got tired of the small screen size. They already switched to bigger Android phones.
I don't have an iPhone anymore, but I have a three 4" phones (2 Galaxies and 1 Lumia 521) , one 4.7", one 6.3". All are great. I'm rocking my new Samsung Galaxy Light right now. The tiny screen size is not bad.
If no more 4" iPhone will come out (4.5"+ in its place), I believe quite a few people will be unhappy. They've been so used to the small screen size and the super easy one hand operation for years, it will take a while for them to adapt.
7. datphoneguy (Posts: 154; Member since: 15 Sep 2013)
I'm guessing the 4.7" model will only be slightly bigger than the iPhone 5, shaving off a bunch of the bezel space instead....
16. alrightihatepickingusernames (Posts: 474; Member since: 29 Dec 2013)
Like the Moto X? Apple will hopefully take it a step farther though.
29. vincelongman (Posts: 3905; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Nope, Apple can't make their bezels smaller, unless if they drop the symmetry of the top and bottom bezel, or change their home button/Touch ID shape to be smaller.
I wouldn't be surprised if the 4.7" iPhone was the same size as the S4 or G2 or One
5. datphoneguy (Posts: 154; Member since: 15 Sep 2013)
It may make more sense for them to release a phone in the summer, and then the iWatch and new iPads closer to Christmas rather than bunching up 3 big new products in the last quarter....
8. KingDingaLing (Posts: 324; Member since: 11 Oct 2013)
I really hope they get into the phablet market. The small screen size was one of the main reasons I switched a couple of years ago. A 6" iphone would be pretty cool. Should be a good battle if they do as the newer Note will be on the way out too. Could be a tough decision. I love technological innovation.
12. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
ok, I love innovation, too, but a new iphone phablet will not be innovative - what I hate is companies that lock down their devices..Apple, Microsoft (somewhat), and now Samsung (with Knox)...heck, even moto does the same sometimes as they were releasing a few devices that had locked bootloaders, with no chance to unlock them...
15. KingDingaLing (Posts: 324; Member since: 11 Oct 2013)
Yea, I hear ya. I went through with jailbreaking the last couple of iPhones i owned. Made for some cool customizations and what not. Also, the free apps were cool if you're willing to go that route.
And yes, only a larger screen wouldn't be considered enough to be called innovation.Let's hope there's more than that. And I've been wondering what's to come of the next HTC One Max too. If it's even being considered.
9. joaolx (Posts: 364; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
"Tim Cook has implied that new iOS devices won't be released until the fall"-link to article from 2013. I'm not saying they won't do the same as last year because I'm sure they won't release a new iPhone without a new OS update and I don't expect anything until September but using an article from 2013 has proof Apple won't launch anything until the fall? Really?
10. nctx77 (Posts: 1610; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
I was about to say the same thing. He never said that this year lol! That was last year about this time when he was talking about the 5s. I don't know about the iphone, but something will drop before fall.
13. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
In the past, Apple has released new iphones earlier than September...research that ...original iphone 4 was made avail by pre order as of 6/15, or so...
31. joaolx (Posts: 364; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
I know that, but for several reasons they changed that strategy and with the 4S they moved the iPhone and iPad launches to the end of the year, because around November and December they're still new and sell millions. I don't believe they'll launch another iPhone before September but I can be wrong, it's just that this rumor is pretty much a very weak rumor, we know it must launch with a new OS and more features, specifically improving Touch Id but that's obvious. They still haven't launched iOS 7.1 and do you think they'll launch an iPhone with iOS8 4 months later(7.1 launches next month)? What about the iOS8 beta to make sure apps are updated for the new os and the new iPhone? I don't see this happening.
21. iampayne (Posts: 322; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)
Honestly Apple shouldn't be killing itself to launch a phone right after an event. They talk about people enjoying a surprise but by the time we have the announcement we know EVERYTHING about the phone. Apple should have an event in June and show the new phone and not ship until Fall. This will allow them to get more buzz than usually and they can even begin to run commercials. Also the sooner they announce a phone the less likely every piece of info on the hardware is leaked to the media. Im sure the phone itself is probably only 5% from being completed. Remember the very first iPhone keynote. They used more than 1 phone because they didn't have a fully functional prototype that could display the entire OS.
27. Topcat488 (Posts: 1391; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
Too bad Apple doesn't have a march & September release... March/April for the Big Screen iphones and September/October for the original iphone. Like Samsung does with the S Series and Note Flagships. Ô.ô Sigh.
33. lilg29 (Posts: 89; Member since: 14 Sep 2011)
They should do that as it would be a competitive marketing strategy.
30. LiquidGalaxy (Posts: 327; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
Looking forward to, hopefully, a 4.8" version as i think thats the sweet spot. Anything above is too big imo