ITC rules that HTC is violating two Apple patents, threatens all of Android
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1. AndroidOS posted on 15 Jul 2011, 20:29 11 1
The violations are going to be reviewed by a six-person commission before it's official. And HTC can still fight the ruling.
So HTC still has a chance. Let's see what happens.
8. hepresearch posted on 15 Jul 2011, 20:48 9 4
Apple is playing this very very well, and highly intelligently... the strategy is beginning to work, and after all it was only a matter of time and probability. When you start throwing enough crap around quickly enough, it will eventually stick to somebody.
27. remixfa posted on 15 Jul 2011, 21:23 13 4
while that is completely true, u forgot one side. you throw enough crap at someone, u better be made of teflon because people are going to start throwing crap back at you when they get hit.
I will bet money if Apple takes it too far, google will step in the lawsuit ring and protect its OS which it hasnt really done so far. Concidering how blatantly apple is copying android in iOS5, they arent on the most solid ground to sling mud.
dont wake the sleeping giant.
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55. E.N. posted on 16 Jul 2011, 00:07 4 9
Haha, like I posted earlier. Everyone was laughing at Apple saying things like "oh they're only suing because they're scared and don't know what to do" or "All of these suits are sad at best" but I told you guys not to be surprised if Apple is not blindly suing and actually has a case. Now matter how much you're anti-iPhone, Apple is not a stupid company just in case you guys haven't realized.
And really, the only thing Google can sue Apple for is the notifications. Android isn't the first company to do over-the air updates and be PC-free. Apple can sue for spell-check, the magnifiying glass that a lot of Android devices are now using, PINCH-ZOOM (that's a really big one), visual voicemail, similar designs (they're doing that already), peer-to-peer bluetooth gaming, the proximity sensor, accelerometer on a phone, first gyro-scope on a phone, etc etc etc. Android is just one big clone of iPhone and its about time starts protecting their OS and innovations.
What has Android innovated/created that Apple has ripped?
But hey, I'm an iPhone user so I realize that I'm probably biased. So other than pull-down for notifications, what has Apple copied from Android? (just so we can have a list and stop talking so subjectively). Make sure you point out things that Android actually invented/innovated and also that you realize that things like processors, megapixels, and LTE aren't Android innovations.
65. 530gemini posted on 16 Jul 2011, 01:30 2 7
Google can't sue Apple on the notification tray pull down. Even when google implemented it on notifications on android OS before iOS5, Apple already had that feature in iOS SDK way back then, and it's already been on several iOS apps since 2007. Apple has the right to use that gesture to display notifications. And the iphone's notification tray is customizable, android's not, which would make the iphone's notification tray look different and implemented differently as well. So let google try to sue Apple, that way the truth will be revealee that Apple actually had it before google :)
80. iSheepHunter posted on 16 Jul 2011, 07:44 7 3
iOS SDK was released in 2007, not before Android was created.
"And the iphone's notification tray is customizable, android's not, which would make the iphone's notification tray look different and implemented differently as well"
Please remeber that statement you just said.
So becase you can customize it( you can customize Android's tray too if you have a diferent launcher), it's completely different even though they look similar. So you can't say Android copied from iOS because "Android is more customizable, Apple is waay less, which would make it look different and implemented differently as well"
You're a hypocrite of the highest level. tsk tsk
84. iSheepHunter posted on 16 Jul 2011, 08:29 9 2
If you're going to try to stereotype Fandroids at least do it right. I rarely hear any of us posting about what Apple stole from Android.
Most of the posts are about the many features Apple stole from other operating systems, and yes, there are alot.
1. ios 5 notifications-android/web os/samsung touchwiz(slide to notifcations such as miss calls and messages from lockscreen
2 ios 5 quick camera access from lockscreen- copied from wp7
3 ios 5 volume shutter button- camera+ had this last year on their app but apple made them remove it because it was a private api and appl also said that it would confuse the users
4. iCloud symbol- stolen from devolper
5 iBooks copyright- in process of being sued for that
6 blackberry messanger (You can send texts, photos, videos, contact cards, and even engage in group messages. It displays delivery receipts, read receipts, and shows when others are typing. It's pushed to all devices and is supported by both 3G and wifi)
should I continue?
-Apple has been sued my Xerox for the alto GUI
-Elan Microelectronics- multitouch patent
-getting sued for S3 graphics
-emblaze sued them for a media tracking patent
-minerva too
They even thought they were gonna get away with stealing from NOKIA. Are they serious? NOKIA? FAIL.
Every company copies, I've come to terms with this.But copying is different from completely ripping off an idea and calling it yours and then not wanting to pay royalties
If you think for a second that a company is perfect and doesn't copy, that some of their ideas aren't at least inspired by other companies and that everything they use in a phone is completely original (some are)
YOU ARE A BLIND SHEEP
105. remixfa posted on 16 Jul 2011, 13:31 6 2
well said.
they stole so much from nokia, nokia got a fat settlement check and gets royalties from every iphone sold.
So does MS.
yup, thats 100% originality right there.
111. lollipop posted on 16 Jul 2011, 13:57 0 1
You do realize why Apple must pay royalties to Nokia? Nokia holds a patent on "A phone that uses 2G (GSM), 3G(UMTS), and WI-FI.". Every manufacturer on the PLANET that makes a phone for GSM networks cannot avoid that Patent.
I find it hard to believe anyone could be "original" under that context. I guess for a moron like you Apple would have had to make a GSM phone that used neither a GSM radio nor a Wifi chipset..... Oh wait they did its called an iPod Touch and the iPhone 4 CDMA (nokia holds ZERO CDMA patents.").
110. lollipop posted on 16 Jul 2011, 13:48 2 1
You are equally blind aswell. early Android was designed to be more inline with Blackberry OS but upon the success of the iPhone Google restructured Android.
Now, if you want to go on about what Apple stole then why not bring up what Android stole from Microsoft and how Gate's company is making royalties (That Manufacturers not google pay) off of every HTC and Samsung device and soon Motorola.
The biggest part of what was stolen that the iPhone created was a non carrier Application Store. The Apple was the only manufacturer to make their own phone that was completely divorced itself from the Brew-based market places forced by carriers. Now look at how Android phones, Windows phones, and even WebOS based phones all took this idea and ran with it. Before the iPhone app store most smartphones had to go to places like Handango and load apps through Mobile Browsers.
Either way the whole "this was stolen" BS is just that BS. BBM was just a reconfigured Instant messenger application that allowed Blackberry customers to avoid Texting charges by sending IMs to other Blackberries over a data network. You can't steal what has also been replicated OVER AND OVER by multiple third party Application vendors since 2007.... I suggest you look up PING which was a third party "BBM" style IM service.








