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ITC rules that HTC is violating two Apple patents, threatens all of Android

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ITC rules that HTC is violating two Apple patents, threatens all of Android
In a legal victory for Apple, the International Trade Commission (ITC) has ruled that HTC is in fact infringing on two of the ten patent filings listed in a complaint by Apple. We call this a legal victory only because this case is far from done, and has a wide range of outcomes that could occur. In the worst case, these two infringements could lead to HTC being prohibited from importing phones to the US, and could provide more power for Apple as it moves forward in its case against Motorola which covers similar claims. However, it is also very likely that this will all come to nothing. 

Legally, Apple only needed a ruling in their favor on one patent infringement claim, but they have gotten two. This is just an "initial determination" and will require confirmation by a panel of six ITC members. As a worst case, if the panel upholds the ruling, HTC would be banned from importing Android phones to the US. However, Apple has also been found in violation of patents held by S3Graphics, a company which HTC is in the process of acquiring. So, Apple and HTC could ultimately come to a settlement that would not end in HTC being banned from US soil. 

The bigger problem is that the rulings in Apple's favor are in regards to technology that is central to Android. Patent expert Florian Mueller details the two patents, saying that one is for a "real-time signal processing system for serially transmitted data" and the other is regarding a system which recognizes and allows users to interact with on-screen information like addresses and phone numbers. Both of these processes are at the core of Android itself, and so could cause problems for any Android phone maker. 

HTC has already called out Apple, saying that the company should compete in the marketplace not in courtrooms. And, while we don't want to take sides in this battle, the US patent system as a whole seems to need a major overhaul if a company can get a patent regarding interacting with specific on-screen data like a phone number. It just doesn't seem like tapping on a phone number to launch a dialer should be something to start a lawsuit over.

This ruling does not effect the latest filing of Apple against HTC, which adds five more infringements to the list.

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1. AndroidOS posted on 15 Jul 2011, 20:29 11 1

The violations are going to be reviewed by a six-person commission before it's official. And HTC can still fight the ruling.

So HTC still has a chance. Let's see what happens.

8. hepresearch posted on 15 Jul 2011, 20:48 9 4

Apple is playing this very very well, and highly intelligently... the strategy is beginning to work, and after all it was only a matter of time and probability. When you start throwing enough crap around quickly enough, it will eventually stick to somebody.

27. remixfa posted on 15 Jul 2011, 21:23 13 4

while that is completely true, u forgot one side. you throw enough crap at someone, u better be made of teflon because people are going to start throwing crap back at you when they get hit.
I will bet money if Apple takes it too far, google will step in the lawsuit ring and protect its OS which it hasnt really done so far. Concidering how blatantly apple is copying android in iOS5, they arent on the most solid ground to sling mud.

dont wake the sleeping giant.

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64. 530gemini posted on 16 Jul 2011, 01:20 2 29

Who got awarded patents to touchscreen gestures on a capacitive screen again? You're delusional. Google copies a lot from Apple, not the other way around. Also, Apple is bigger than google, so please.

71. Violent M*f* (unregistered) posted on 16 Jul 2011, 04:17 8 1

Dude ur an ass-hole...!!! Google copying iOS ?? for ur info Apple never even invented the touch screen..!!

79. iSheepHunter posted on 16 Jul 2011, 07:33 11

Google copies nothing from Apple that Apple didn't already copy from Nokia and got sued for.

And what exactly did they steal from Apple again?

91. joseg81 posted on 16 Jul 2011, 09:40 10

they stole they're customers. apple needs to stop f@#*in' crying and start competing for real. they need to get off their a$$es n overhaul their whole OS not just make it brighter n shinier to distract the idiots still using that tired a$$ OS.

93. taco50 posted on 16 Jul 2011, 10:31 1 7

If you can read the article there's two examples above.


Here's more

Pinch to zoom
Kinetic scrolling
Swiping gestures

Etc etc

169. NeXoS posted on 18 Jul 2011, 10:20

How the hell did Apple get a patent on pinch to zoom? Jeff Han gave that to the world WAY BEFORE the iPhone!

171. Pirate Ninja (unregistered) posted on 18 Jul 2011, 22:56

Not sure if the ITC knows that. You should email them and let them know.... You could be the savior that HTC needs.

172. Pirate Ninja (unregistered) posted on 18 Jul 2011, 22:57

Not sure the ITC knows that. you should email them and let them know..... YOu could be the saavior that HTC needs and put Apple in its place.

103. mlhazan posted on 16 Jul 2011, 13:25 2

@530gemini poor guy ! Do you have any idea about google?Google don't copy from apple.Before posting like this you must avoid using Google search engine,Youtube,Gmail.BlogSpot ...In a sence just stop using internet.IOS is not bad but It can not stand with Android.IOS needs iphone to survive.Android is for multi platform.Here is the main difference,Poor Steve Jobs had tough time to compete with Bill Gates since the beginning and could not win and now having rough time with Google.

104. remixfa posted on 16 Jul 2011, 13:28 4

gestures? ur acting like they invented all gestures. Next you will say because they have a patent on "pinch to zoom", all onscreen gestures belong to apple.
Apple never copies from google huh? I wonder where that pull down notification bar, resizable widgets, and all sorts of other things in iOS5 came from. Did they invent that too and just forget to tell google when Android has been doing most of that since its beginning?
Tell me oh wise swuami!

55. E.N. posted on 16 Jul 2011, 00:07 4 9

Haha, like I posted earlier. Everyone was laughing at Apple saying things like "oh they're only suing because they're scared and don't know what to do" or "All of these suits are sad at best" but I told you guys not to be surprised if Apple is not blindly suing and actually has a case. Now matter how much you're anti-iPhone, Apple is not a stupid company just in case you guys haven't realized.

And really, the only thing Google can sue Apple for is the notifications. Android isn't the first company to do over-the air updates and be PC-free. Apple can sue for spell-check, the magnifiying glass that a lot of Android devices are now using, PINCH-ZOOM (that's a really big one), visual voicemail, similar designs (they're doing that already), peer-to-peer bluetooth gaming, the proximity sensor, accelerometer on a phone, first gyro-scope on a phone, etc etc etc. Android is just one big clone of iPhone and its about time starts protecting their OS and innovations.

What has Android innovated/created that Apple has ripped?

But hey, I'm an iPhone user so I realize that I'm probably biased. So other than pull-down for notifications, what has Apple copied from Android? (just so we can have a list and stop talking so subjectively). Make sure you point out things that Android actually invented/innovated and also that you realize that things like processors, megapixels, and LTE aren't Android innovations.

65. 530gemini posted on 16 Jul 2011, 01:30 2 7

Google can't sue Apple on the notification tray pull down. Even when google implemented it on notifications on android OS before iOS5, Apple already had that feature in iOS SDK way back then, and it's already been on several iOS apps since 2007. Apple has the right to use that gesture to display notifications. And the iphone's notification tray is customizable, android's not, which would make the iphone's notification tray look different and implemented differently as well. So let google try to sue Apple, that way the truth will be revealee that Apple actually had it before google :)

80. iSheepHunter posted on 16 Jul 2011, 07:44 7 3

iOS SDK was released in 2007, not before Android was created.

"And the iphone's notification tray is customizable, android's not, which would make the iphone's notification tray look different and implemented differently as well"

Please remeber that statement you just said.

So becase you can customize it( you can customize Android's tray too if you have a diferent launcher), it's completely different even though they look similar. So you can't say Android copied from iOS because "Android is more customizable, Apple is waay less, which would make it look different and implemented differently as well"

You're a hypocrite of the highest level. tsk tsk

84. iSheepHunter posted on 16 Jul 2011, 08:29 9 2

If you're going to try to stereotype Fandroids at least do it right. I rarely hear any of us posting about what Apple stole from Android.

Most of the posts are about the many features Apple stole from other operating systems, and yes, there are alot.

1. ios 5 notifications-android/web os/samsung touchwiz(slide to notifcations such as miss calls and messages from lockscreen
2 ios 5 quick camera access from lockscreen- copied from wp7
3 ios 5 volume shutter button- camera+ had this last year on their app but apple made them remove it because it was a private api and appl also said that it would confuse the users
4. iCloud symbol- stolen from devolper
5 iBooks copyright- in process of being sued for that
6 blackberry messanger (You can send texts, photos, videos, contact cards, and even engage in group messages. It displays delivery receipts, read receipts, and shows when others are typing. It's pushed to all devices and is supported by both 3G and wifi)

should I continue?

-Apple has been sued my Xerox for the alto GUI
-Elan Microelectronics- multitouch patent
-getting sued for S3 graphics
-emblaze sued them for a media tracking patent
-minerva too

They even thought they were gonna get away with stealing from NOKIA. Are they serious? NOKIA? FAIL.

Every company copies, I've come to terms with this.But copying is different from completely ripping off an idea and calling it yours and then not wanting to pay royalties

If you think for a second that a company is perfect and doesn't copy, that some of their ideas aren't at least inspired by other companies and that everything they use in a phone is completely original (some are)

YOU ARE A BLIND SHEEP

105. remixfa posted on 16 Jul 2011, 13:31 6 2

well said.

they stole so much from nokia, nokia got a fat settlement check and gets royalties from every iphone sold.
So does MS.
yup, thats 100% originality right there.

111. lollipop posted on 16 Jul 2011, 13:57 1

You do realize why Apple must pay royalties to Nokia? Nokia holds a patent on "A phone that uses 2G (GSM), 3G(UMTS), and WI-FI.". Every manufacturer on the PLANET that makes a phone for GSM networks cannot avoid that Patent.

I find it hard to believe anyone could be "original" under that context. I guess for a moron like you Apple would have had to make a GSM phone that used neither a GSM radio nor a Wifi chipset..... Oh wait they did its called an iPod Touch and the iPhone 4 CDMA (nokia holds ZERO CDMA patents.").

110. lollipop posted on 16 Jul 2011, 13:48 2 1

You are equally blind aswell. early Android was designed to be more inline with Blackberry OS but upon the success of the iPhone Google restructured Android.

Now, if you want to go on about what Apple stole then why not bring up what Android stole from Microsoft and how Gate's company is making royalties (That Manufacturers not google pay) off of every HTC and Samsung device and soon Motorola.

The biggest part of what was stolen that the iPhone created was a non carrier Application Store. The Apple was the only manufacturer to make their own phone that was completely divorced itself from the Brew-based market places forced by carriers. Now look at how Android phones, Windows phones, and even WebOS based phones all took this idea and ran with it. Before the iPhone app store most smartphones had to go to places like Handango and load apps through Mobile Browsers.

Either way the whole "this was stolen" BS is just that BS. BBM was just a reconfigured Instant messenger application that allowed Blackberry customers to avoid Texting charges by sending IMs to other Blackberries over a data network. You can't steal what has also been replicated OVER AND OVER by multiple third party Application vendors since 2007.... I suggest you look up PING which was a third party "BBM" style IM service.

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