The iPhone X may turn into a privacy disaster, so Apple changed the Face ID apps policy
by Daniel Petrov / Dec 01, 2017, 9:31 AM
There’s a wireframe representation of your face and a live read-out of 52 unique micro-movements in your eyelids, mouth and other features. Apps can store that data on their own computers." Not cool, and, when pressed for answers, Apple's spokesperson Tom Neumayr issued these talking points:A researcher has already created an app that shows you exactly how much facial data is Apple making available to developers, and it turned out enough to allow them craft a model for a 3D print of your entire face."
Needless to say, it remains to be seen whether Apple has actually opened the floodgates of privacy abuses from marketers, and declared an open season on your facial expressions with the iPhone X. Other manufacturers are seemingly bent to follow in Apple's footsteps, so we could soon be facing (pun intended) a veritable privacy crisis as our mugs get collected for all sorts of barely authorized purposes, and exchanged for petty cash as they flow through the Dark Web ether like credit card hacks.
source: Washington Post
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Now where's that handy touch ID?
posted on Dec 01, 2017, 9:45 AM 10
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Just a $499 dongle sold separately...
posted on Dec 01, 2017, 9:54 AM 50
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I can see big privacy issues, especially when Apple is going to have FaceID on all of its devices moving forward. So not only iPhones, but iPads, and Macs as well. Since there have been some articles related to that. So how
posted on Dec 02, 2017, 9:10 AM 0
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Figuring our your FP is much easier than your face. If the Face ID works well and to it's full capacity nobody will be able to crack it. Apple's Face ID will improve drastically in the future.
posted on Dec 01, 2017, 10:54 AM 1
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Don't need that, you just have to have faith. Besides that he seems to have not read the article or missed the point entirely (iFans...). The author is talking about the information available to developers through the camera API, not the face ID enclave. You don't need to break anything because you can just request complete face mapping data. With touch ID, the API would just deliver a yes or no to the developer if the finger print matched. But developers are given access to the whole face for face ID so they can make smiling chickens (still the best iPhone X feature).
posted on Dec 01, 2017, 11:47 AM 10
But the fingerprint isn't stored in the phone, only a mathematical representation of your fingerprint is stored. And FaceID will always be crackable, nothing is 100% uncrackable. Making a claim like this is dumb and shortsighted.
posted on Dec 01, 2017, 12:02 PM 1
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It’s on the iPhone 8. Anybody want the fingerprint scanner on their iPhone they still make one it’s called the iPhone 8. What’s the point of the article is not whether there is a fingerprint scanner but whether Apple is selling more information for the people that own an iPhone 10. I don’t normally read the warnings when I download an app or open one because I kind of assumed that I’ve seen all of them which is naïve on my part but at the same time I’m pretty irritated that without reading this article I may have gave it up information about my face over the Internet for whatever. I really doubt they are going to start making masks on just everybody since they’re so expensive and start getting into our phones but I don’t like the idea of some company playing stupid and in fact they know exactly what they’re doing at all times. A company can make a lot of money by selling information to Whoever. From what I can tell Google is horrible at doing stuff like this I mean that’s how we get those pants that are specific to us on our phone. All the company’s would and sell as much info as they can about who is using there product. I think it’s bs. I don’t agree that we should have to pay this much for a phone(and I meen all of them) just so they can make more money selling our personal info about who we are and what we like. If a phone is just a big add machine than the phone should be subsidized a lot. .....whatever rant over If I read this right I was assuming that Apple was going to give the info to developers and now they are going to warn us first. I admit I could not read the artical with as much detail as I was at work
posted on Dec 01, 2017, 8:15 PM 0
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If you gave away the finger print why not face??? Or Iris?? If you use internet, social media especially fb you have already given away pretty much all your life to the internet. Nothing is private on internet and if anything is it's just behind a one little password.
posted on Dec 01, 2017, 10:52 AM 6
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Just admit, your beloved God Apple messed up. Be a man about it, instead of a 5th grade girl.
posted on Dec 01, 2017, 11:27 AM 24
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Mary had a little lamb, it's name was piyath. Buck up dude, it was a bad idea.
posted on Dec 01, 2017, 1:26 PM 14
posted on Dec 01, 2017, 11:30 AM 0
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The article didn't say it was sent, just that this party apps can access the data. And a developer already made an app that shows the data, which it couldn't do if it weren't available to third party apps. And if an app can access it, it can store it.
posted on Dec 01, 2017, 3:48 PM 4
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Misunderstanding security, or at least how to properly implement security, appears to be the... wait for it... "root" of Apple's problem.
posted on Dec 01, 2017, 1:42 PM 5
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Face ID is, in its current form, not good. It doesn’t work with every app as a replacement for the fingerprint (meaning you’ll need to use your password), not to mention it requires you to actually make a concentrated effort to look at the phone and THEN swipe to open. Not intuitive at all. Fine, label me a butthurt malcontent, but the iPhone X is a major letdown, Face ID being just one reason.
posted on Dec 01, 2017, 3:06 PM 3
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posted on Dec 01, 2017, 5:55 PM 1
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