The iPhone X may turn into a privacy disaster, so Apple changed the Face ID apps policy

The iPhone X may turn into a privacy disaster, so Apple changed the Face ID apps policy
Your facial mapping, achieved with the TrueDepth camera kit of the iPhone X, is stored securely on the phone, and not being sent to any servers, just like your Touch ID fingerprint readings. The issue is, however, that third-party developers would have access to worrying amounts of your face data, complete with mood expressions, and other potentially lethal from a privacy standpoint bits that could be used for marketing purposes, or something more nefarious.

A researcher has already created an app that shows you exactly how much facial data is Apple making available to developers, and it turned out enough to allow them craft a model for a 3D print of your entire face."There’s a wireframe representation of your face and a live read-out of 52 unique micro-movements in your eyelids, mouth and other features. Apps can store that data on their own computers." Not cool, and, when pressed for answers, Apple's spokesperson Tom Neumayr issued these talking points:


Needless to say, it remains to be seen whether Apple has actually opened the floodgates of privacy abuses from marketers, and declared an open season on your facial expressions with the iPhone X. Other manufacturers are seemingly bent to follow in Apple's footsteps, so we could soon be facing (pun intended) a veritable privacy crisis as our mugs get collected for all sorts of barely authorized purposes, and exchanged for petty cash as they flow through the Dark Web ether like credit card hacks. 

To prevent this potential drama, Apple just shifted the Face ID app developer guidelines, says the source: "Apple made at least one change - retroactively requiring an app tapping into face data to publish a privacy policy". Still, in the words of one Forrester research analyst: "Holy cow, why is this data available to any developer that just agrees to a bunch of contracts?" Sign of the times.


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30 Comments

1. redmd

Posts: 1926; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

Now where's that handy touch ID?

2. MrShazam

Posts: 987; Member since: Jun 22, 2017

Just a $499 dongle sold separately...

3. KingSam

Posts: 1425; Member since: Mar 13, 2016

Nailed it!

30. sgodsell

Posts: 7219; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

I can see big privacy issues, especially when Apple is going to have FaceID on all of its devices moving forward. So not only iPhones, but iPads, and Macs as well. Since there have been some articles related to that. So how

13. Skimshaddy

Posts: 126; Member since: Feb 23, 2016

Ha! ha! ha! you killed it bro.

23. Rocket

Posts: 642; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

Nicely said, haha

25. brian81

Posts: 68; Member since: Nov 09, 2012

hahaha :D

5. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

Figuring our your FP is much easier than your face. If the Face ID works well and to it's full capacity nobody will be able to crack it. Apple's Face ID will improve drastically in the future.

6. tedkord

Posts: 17312; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Citation?

12. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Don't need that, you just have to have faith. Besides that he seems to have not read the article or missed the point entirely (iFans...). The author is talking about the information available to developers through the camera API, not the face ID enclave. You don't need to break anything because you can just request complete face mapping data. With touch ID, the API would just deliver a yes or no to the developer if the finger print matched. But developers are given access to the whole face for face ID so they can make smiling chickens (still the best iPhone X feature).

14. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

But the fingerprint isn't stored in the phone, only a mathematical representation of your fingerprint is stored. And FaceID will always be crackable, nothing is 100% uncrackable. Making a claim like this is dumb and shortsighted.

29. Phullofphil

Posts: 1762; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

It’s on the iPhone 8. Anybody want the fingerprint scanner on their iPhone they still make one it’s called the iPhone 8. What’s the point of the article is not whether there is a fingerprint scanner but whether Apple is selling more information for the people that own an iPhone 10. I don’t normally read the warnings when I download an app or open one because I kind of assumed that I’ve seen all of them which is naïve on my part but at the same time I’m pretty irritated that without reading this article I may have gave it up information about my face over the Internet for whatever. I really doubt they are going to start making masks on just everybody since they’re so expensive and start getting into our phones but I don’t like the idea of some company playing stupid and in fact they know exactly what they’re doing at all times. A company can make a lot of money by selling information to Whoever. From what I can tell Google is horrible at doing stuff like this I mean that’s how we get those pants that are specific to us on our phone. All the company’s would and sell as much info as they can about who is using there product. I think it’s bs. I don’t agree that we should have to pay this much for a phone(and I meen all of them) just so they can make more money selling our personal info about who we are and what we like. If a phone is just a big add machine than the phone should be subsidized a lot. .....whatever rant over If I read this right I was assuming that Apple was going to give the info to developers and now they are going to warn us first. I admit I could not read the artical with as much detail as I was at work

4. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

If you gave away the finger print why not face??? Or Iris?? If you use internet, social media especially fb you have already given away pretty much all your life to the internet. Nothing is private on internet and if anything is it's just behind a one little password.

8. darkkjedii

Posts: 30971; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Just admit, your beloved God Apple messed up. Be a man about it, instead of a 5th grade girl.

15. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

The RDF is strong in this one ;)

17. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3125; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

Mary had a little lamb, it's name was piyath. Buck up dude, it was a bad idea.

20. ph00ny

Posts: 2026; Member since: May 26, 2011

it was a great idea but poor execution. They should have waited for the technology to mature and tested in beta instead of pushing it out

26. worldpeace

Posts: 3129; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

At least they shouldn't remove Touch ID.

9. ViewRoyal unregistered

"we could soon be facing (pun intended) a veritable privacy crisis as our mugs get collected for all sorts of barely authorized purposes" And... Another ludicrous conspiracy theory gets manufactured for the rumor mill.

10. ViewRoyal unregistered

"we could soon be facing (pun intended) a veritable privacy crisis as our mugs get collected for all sorts of barely authorized purposes" And... Another ludicrous conspiracy theory gets manufactured for the rumor mill. Face ID data is NOT sent to third party developers, just as Touch ID data has NEVER been sent to third party developers when you use fingerprint confirmation! "To prevent this potential drama, Apple retroactively changed the Face ID apps privacy policy, and is now demanding “that developers ask a user’s permission before accessing the camera" This is another clear indicator that the author has no idea what he is talking about. Apps in iOS have ALWAYS required user permission to use the camera! This is NOT a "new" policy, and it certainly does not relate to Face ID specifically.

22. tedkord

Posts: 17312; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

The article didn't say it was sent, just that this party apps can access the data. And a developer already made an app that shows the data, which it couldn't do if it weren't available to third party apps. And if an app can access it, it can store it.

11. Sania

Posts: 97; Member since: Nov 04, 2017

So they have already obtained our fingerprints, face, maybe retina and next do we need blood to unlock the phone? Introducing iDNA...

16. p51d007

Posts: 704; Member since: Nov 24, 2013

DUH...who didn't see THAT coming!

18. roscuthiii

Posts: 2383; Member since: Jul 18, 2010

Misunderstanding security, or at least how to properly implement security, appears to be the... wait for it... "root" of Apple's problem.

21. ph00ny

Posts: 2026; Member since: May 26, 2011

lol at root. I wonder how many folks are getting it

27. worldpeace

Posts: 3129; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

User : root Pass :

19. apple-rulz

Posts: 2028; Member since: Dec 27, 2016

Face ID is, in its current form, not good. It doesn’t work with every app as a replacement for the fingerprint (meaning you’ll need to use your password), not to mention it requires you to actually make a concentrated effort to look at the phone and THEN swipe to open. Not intuitive at all. Fine, label me a butthurt malcontent, but the iPhone X is a major letdown, Face ID being just one reason.

24. Abdbaas

Posts: 141; Member since: Apr 05, 2016

28. worldpeace

Posts: 3129; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

And actually faceID is a project to search body double for Trump.. *wear tinfoil hat*

31. farbodght

Posts: 32; Member since: Dec 13, 2014

just a gimmick

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