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HTC One X and HTC One (M8) camera lens comparison proves camera bumps save lenses' lives

HTC One X and HTC One (M8) camera lens comparison proves camera bumps save lenses' lives

Reddit user and apparent HTC fan MSined made an interesting comparison while busting a myth along the way. He posted two photos comparing how the camera lenses of his almost 2 year-old HTC One X and two-weeks old HTC One (M8) are holding up after this time. The result, as you will see for yourself, is surprising.

Smartphones that have their camera lens flush with the body were (unofficially) considered to do a better job at protecting the glass from scratches than those with “camera bumps” protruding from their backs. That's because in the latter case, the smartphone should lay directly on the lens itself and the glass will get scratched easier, right? Um, no. The difference between the two HTC flagships' camera lenses is drastic, and you'd never guess which one's in better shape. It's the veteran One X's! On the other hand, the brand-new One M8's lens is scratched severely.

The Redditor claims that he didn't treat the two phones differently, and admits that his usage habits are not a prime example of smartphone care-keeping. But it's not like he did anything especially irresponsible - it's just that MSined "isn't a case person". He also noted that the One X's photo clearly shows that it was the plastic ring below the lens that took the damage, instead of the lens, as evident by the scratch marks and discoloration.

While "camera bumps" are not a desirable aesthetic, it seems they do a much better job of protecting the camera than flush lens. The comparison also shows that flush lens and non-scratchproof glass is a bad, bad combination. Unfortunately, installing a camera protector isn't an option for those desiring the purest photo quality, while other smartphone vendors are yet to follow Apple's example of securing the lens with a piece of tough sapphire crystal in the iPhone 5 and 5S.

source: Reddit

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posted on 16 Apr 2014, 04:51 8

1. rizevnarastek (Posts: 349; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)

LOL... Puprusfuly scratched. The lens is recessed on the One and One M8 and is less likely to be scratched. This was intentionally scratched by a sharp object. If the scratches would happen naturally because of surface friction then there would be apparent scratches on the phones unibody as well and not just on the camera lens.

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 04:54 13

4. luis.d (Posts: 354; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)

Would someone scratch an M8 like that for the purpose of proving a point that gets discussed so rarely? I know, it's the Internet, but still?

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 05:36

10. bbblader (Posts: 590; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)

Doing it on purpose is the same as drop tests.Why not if you have the money

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 06:36 1

17. Commentator (Posts: 3722; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)

Because why would he?

Anyways, why don't companies just make the lens slightly recessed into the body of the phone? That way you eliminate the wobbling and scuffing of the rim, and the scratching of the lens, AND, if it makes the phone thicker, maybe they could fit a bigger battery to boot.

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 15:13

31. true1984 (Posts: 830; Member since: 23 May 2012)

it is recessed, thats why this is bull. i have th m8 with out a case and there isnt a single scratch on the lens

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 07:03 4

18. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1122; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)

Well, my One M7 has been with me for almost a year and not a single scratch on the camera lens, how this guy managed to scratch his camera lens like this is really strange..

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 07:54 2

20. Aploine (Posts: 437; Member since: 24 Oct 2013)

Why the aluminum body and the second lens are scratched?

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 07:55 2

21. Aploine (Posts: 437; Member since: 24 Oct 2013)


posted on 16 Apr 2014, 07:17

19. Planterz (Posts: 2110; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

luis.d, you do realize that just a few stories down, somebody shoots a Galaxy S5 with a .50 caliber rifle, right?

I mean, have you seen the price of ammo lately? .50BMG ain't cheap!

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 09:21 1

22. luis.d (Posts: 354; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)

If it's a few stories down, you'd better call the police!

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 10:51 1

23. Commentator (Posts: 3722; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)

*Polite laughter*

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 11:50

25. steedsofwar (unregistered)

Dont be silly. Of course he didn't do it on purpose. What point would he be making by doing that? IMO, they both look the same condition. Bulge is silly, and the cut out rings are enormous. Why? Look at the iPhone and the Sony cameras. Their cutout is only as big as needs be.

Also, I thought the LG G2 lens was a sapphire material. @luis D. Can you confirm?

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 04:51

2. Firedrops (Posts: 249; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)

well it makes sense since the outer edges of the "bump" and the other contact points actually prop the lens up from the surface when you lay it on something.

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 04:52 2

3. ianbbaa (Posts: 332; Member since: 20 Mar 2013)

Thats the top notch build quality that should bring those buyers to M8....

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 04:55 2

5. Reality_Check (Posts: 277; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)

What did he do? Take a key to the M8's camera? Or keep it in the same pocket in which you keep change? The scratches on the M8 are simply ridiculous -_-

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 05:01 7

6. promise7 (Posts: 891; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)

A whole article dedicated to this because one Reddit user said so? Wow... must be slim pickings today.

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 05:02 2

7. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)

i call BS. sliding the m8 on the floor will not scratch the lens because it will not touch the floor by a millimeter or so.
unless htc made the protective lens quality with cheap materials, then blame htc and not the owner.

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 05:16 3

8. Hyperreal (Posts: 322; Member since: 08 Oct 2013)

For me its BS. I had both htc one x and htc one. Lens on htc one x were scratched after 2 months (and that was the only complaint about the phone I had) and on htc one they still look perfect after months.

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 05:52 4

12. spiderpig2894 (Posts: 597; Member since: 10 Jan 2012)

Scratches like that would clearly also affect the metal edges of the lens. Scratches will run from the lens to the aluminum. This looks like it's scratched on purpose. Recessed is better than bumps IMO.

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 05:56 1

13. SIGPRO (Posts: 1882; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)

Still it sucks!

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 05:57 7

14. Eclectech (Posts: 253; Member since: 01 May 2013)

I find it odd the lens is scratched on the HTC One M8 and not the metal around it. I think this is total BS. I have had the HTC One M7 since launch last year and still has no scratches on the lens.

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 06:16

15. vincelongman (Posts: 5069; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)

And that's why OEMs should use Sapphire/Gorilla/Dragontrail Glass to protect the camera len

Unfortunately, I think only Apple & LG are using Sapphire, haven't heard of any using Gorilla/Dragontrail

Luckily my glass screen protector came with a protector for the camera as well

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 06:34 2

16. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)

I've two OneXs, neither in rough shape or even scratched.
To scratch the M8 can glass like that, I suspect it got scratched by sand abusively.
Like how old is phone?

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 11:17

24. fireblade (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)

WTF, how can that happen? the bumped one is supposed to get more scratch! HTC should replace it with sapphire glass

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 12:00

26. district11 (Posts: 125; Member since: 17 Apr 2011)


posted on 16 Apr 2014, 12:03

27. Karriope (Posts: 116; Member since: 07 Jun 2013)

Id always prefer a recessed camera lens. Ive barely any scratches on my phones with recessed lenses. I really dont get the mentality of having camera glass (or plastic) sitting on surfaces...

As for why the metal body and depth oens aren't scratched?
Isn't that depth lens recessed?

Really, there are lots of little design touches that can exist to better protect the fragile parts of a phone. One is a raised front bezel, avoiding curved corners of glass (look at how easy S3s cracked their screens) and obviously a recessed camera. This whole thinness fad isnt my style anyhow.

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 12:11

28. Karriope (Posts: 116; Member since: 07 Jun 2013)

A -flush- lens is definitely prone to scratching, a recessed one is not. The One is particularly bad due to its curved back (so the flat lens will be the widest surface resting on the surface, plus it rocks back and forth) but the One X sits on the lower end of the back plus the edge of the hump surround.

I've personally handled both phones, so ... no, not just saying. (Well, a M7, not a M8, but they're so similar in shape anyway)

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 15:09

30. true1984 (Posts: 830; Member since: 23 May 2012)

the lens on the m8 is recessed though...

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 13:59 1

29. Muayyad (Posts: 239; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)

Must be another Samsung troll

posted on 16 Apr 2014, 16:12

32. chaosmonk (Posts: 1; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)

Derp. Did any of you who are saying "How could this happen!?" think that maybe he could have put the phone in a pocket with his keys?

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