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Sean Penn used BBM to keep in touch with drug kingpin

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BBM was one of the tools used to help actor Sean Penn (L) meet with fugative drug lord Joaquín

BBM was one of the tools used to help actor Sean Penn (L) meet with fugative drug lord Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán Loera


BlackBerry's messaging app. BBM, is getting plenty of free publicity today. Considering the subject matter, the publicity might not be considered completely favorable. Rolling Stone has published actor Sean Penn's story about how he ended up visiting drug kingpin Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán Loera while the latter was hiding out from the authorities. Not only is BBM mentioned, Penn wrote how he had to use the Blackphone handset to handle encrypted communications.

Penn admits that he is not a techie, but his account of how he hooked up with the recently captured fugitive contained quite a few references to BBM. In fact, Penn used the messaging app to send a list of questions to "El Chapo," and the service was also used by various players in this real-life drama. For example, Mexican actress Kate del Castillo, who brokered the meeting, used BBM to stay connected to the drug kingpin. The drivers used by "El Chapo" to get Penn to the drug kingpin, relid on mesages sent via BBM to make sure that the route was clear.

BBM had once been a closed app, available to BlackBerry users only. Back in 2013, it was opened to both Android and iOS users. The company has made an effort to spruce up the app by adding discussion groups called Channels, and by selling stickers. While BlackBerry wouldn't be pleased with the reason for BBM's use in the story, the messaging app is receiving tons of free publicity for being included in the Rolling Stone article that everyone is talking about today.

source: RollingStone via Gizmodo

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posted on 10 Jan 2016, 11:11 4

1. meanestgenius (Posts: 15065; Member since: 28 May 2014)


BBM! The preferred messaging app of drug kingpins worldwide!

Lol, seriously, while I'm sure no tech entity would approve of getting publicity for one of their apps in this manner, it is a lot o publicity, nonetheless.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 11:36 2

2. Jango (Posts: 330; Member since: 24 Oct 2014)


But doesn't this story only imply that BBM is not secure and NOT suited for private comms? I'd also like to know how Blackphone fared or whether it too was compromised.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 11:43 8

3. meanestgenius (Posts: 15065; Member since: 28 May 2014)


NOWHERE in this story does it imply that BBM was compromised in any way, shape or form. I really don't see how you came to that conclusion.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 12:53

4. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2236; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Someone's phone was compromised, but they don't say who or what the phone was.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 12:54

5. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 3280; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


BBM Isn't The Most Secure That's For Sure.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 13:00 1

6. meanestgenius (Posts: 15065; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Yes, that part I read in the original article, and as you said, there wasn't any mention of what type of phone it was. As a matter of fact, the only phone named was Blackphone. BBM is cross platform. It could have been an Android phone, an iPhone or a Windows Phone that was compromised.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 13:03 3

7. meanestgenius (Posts: 15065; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Which messaging app would you say is the most secure? I have yet to personally encounter a messaging app that has offered more measures of security than BBM.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 13:10 1

8. Punchy506 (Posts: 129; Member since: 10 Jan 2016)


Cyberdust is the most secure messaging app.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 13:12

9. Punchy506 (Posts: 129; Member since: 10 Jan 2016)


From cyberdust- "Your messages are protected from screenshots and disappear after they are read. They are heavily encrypted and never touch a hard drive- not even our own. Once your messages are gone they are truly gone forever never to be recovered."

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 13:15 1

10. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 3280; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-5-most-secure-and-user-friendly-private-messaging-apps-for-iPhone-and-Android_id76294

You Can Also Click On the Source Link In That Article To Check Out A Huge List Of Messaging Apps, BBM Don't Score So Great Just Sayin.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 13:40 1

11. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


BBM's security scores great on it's own BB OS platform.
But it's security sucks elsewhere.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 13:40 1

12. meanestgenius (Posts: 15065; Member since: 28 May 2014)


http://bizblog.blackberry.com/2015/03/secure-mobile-messaging-without-compromises/

I've read that article. BBM Protected rates pretty well, and has government certification.

"This BlackBerry innovation effectively prevents ‘man in the middle’ hacker attacks, providing greater security than competing encryption schemes, and earning BBM Protected FIPS 140-2 validation by the U.S. Department of Defense."

Just sayin'.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 13:49 5

13. meanestgenius (Posts: 15065; Member since: 28 May 2014)


NOTHING is ever "truly gone forever never to be recovered". That being said, I'll stick with BBM Protected. It has government certifications that Cyberdust doesn't. See my comment #12 for more details.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 13:57

14. Punchy506 (Posts: 129; Member since: 10 Jan 2016)


Oh, ignorance. They're gone forever.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 14:00 3

15. meanestgenius (Posts: 15065; Member since: 28 May 2014)


You must be referring to yourself if you truly believe something is "truly gone forever".

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 14:11

16. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 3280; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


BBM Isn't Bad, Actually I Use It Myself. Still Tho Its Not The Most Secure But That Doesn't Matter To Me, Not Like I Have Anything To Hide.

Also BBM Protected Seems To Only Be An Enterprise Only Thing

Just Sayin!

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 14:25 1

18. meanestgenius (Posts: 15065; Member since: 28 May 2014)


BBM also has Privacy and Control features that enable further encrypted messaging between users that "expire" once the conversation is over. And only one person needs to initiate for both to be covered.

Just sayin'!

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 14:27

19. Omarc07 (Posts: 479; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


No actually if you didnt know or any one else didnt know bbm is still something they use ALOT in México . Maybe they dont use it alot anymore in the US but in mexico i can tell u one thing all my cousins in México and their coworkers and friends still as of 2016 use bbm . Not only él chapo uses it lots of other mexicans still do.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 14:31 1

20. meanestgenius (Posts: 15065; Member since: 28 May 2014)


And only one party needs to have BBM Protected for both parties to be covered.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 14:35 1

21. meanestgenius (Posts: 15065; Member since: 28 May 2014)


I NEVER said that other citizens of Mexico don't use BBM, nor did I imply it.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 14:42 5

22. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


It can't be gone forever.

Contents can be deleted, but a cache of that data remains. And which could be decrypted if gotten.

It's like on PC, you can't move data to the recycle bin and emptying it, and call that data gone - No!

That data's cache still remains in the hard drive and some part of it in the OS (depending on the type of file).

To make the deleted data "go forever", you should locate it's cache and write over it several times - as much as 100 (yes, a hundred) times!

I mean copy-paste some other non-private data over the cache of that deleted data.

And since you can't do that on a messaging app, - since your data goes through the web - you can't confirm it to be "gone forever!

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 14:48

23. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


Does post #22 back you up?

Hello, MG!!

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 14:52 1

24. meanestgenius (Posts: 15065; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Agreed. I'm well aware that it can't be gone forever. It's this dude that responded to me that believes it's "gone forever".

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 14:53

25. meanestgenius (Posts: 15065; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Indeed it does. Thanks!

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 14:56 1

26. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 16318; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


You'd have to be on drugs to like BBM based on this article.

Kidding only kidding.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 14:57 1

27. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 16318; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Lol you're trying too hard.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 15:05 1

28. shahrooz (Posts: 784; Member since: 17 Sep 2013)


BBM is not that safe on android, dunno about BB OS. Android safety award goes to Signal and Telegram for the moment.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 15:13 2

30. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


STFU Mxy! Go attention-bait elsewhere.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 15:14 1

31. meanestgenius (Posts: 15065; Member since: 28 May 2014)


It's extremely safe on BlackBerry hardware, including the Priv, due to the hardware injected PIN.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 15:25

35. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


MG, man there's war on this article

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Did-you-know-that-this-gorgeous-Hollywood-movie-star-helped-invent-Wi-Fi_id77315

Have you checked it yet?

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