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Samsung's J.K. Shin says without Samsung patents, there is no Apple iPhone; no deal with Apple is coming

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Samsung's J.K. Shin says without Samsung patents, there is no Apple iPhone; no deal with Apple is coming
"The truth never lies. Without Samsung-owned wireless patents, it’s impossible for the Cupertino-based Apple to produce its handsets. As you know, Samsung is very strong in terms of portfolios of wireless patents.-J.K. Shin, CEO, Samsung
Wednesday's cease fire in the Gaza Strip is proof that it is easier to get peace in the Middle East than peace between Apple and Samsung. And for those who were hoping that Samsung would follow in HTC's footsteps and work out a licensing deal with Apple, don't hold your breath. The executive  who heads up the Korean firm's mobile division, J.K. Shin, told reporters in Seoul on Wednesday that without Samsung's wireless patents, Apple would not be able to produce its iconic smartphone.

Shin made the comments after the ITC decided to review an earlier ruling that Apple didn't infringe on four Samsung patents in the manufacturing of the Apple iPhone and Apple iPad. With a decision due in January, there is a lot riding on the ITC's decision. A ruling against Apple would prevent the Cupertino based firm from selling the Apple iPhone and the Apple iPad in the U.S.

Shin told reporters like he did last week, that Samsung is not negotiating with Apple like HTC did. The resulting deal between Taiwan based HTC and Apple means that each side will get to use each other's patents for ten years while HTC will be making undisclosed payments to Apple. All litigation between the two firms will be dropped. There is some talk that Apple and Google will agree to a similar deal which Apple hopes would put more attention on its battles with Samsung.

Though later denied via an official tweet, Shin did hint that Samsung would introduce a new Galaxy S phone at the CES show in Las Vegas in January. Speculation is that the Samsung Galaxy S IV will be introduced at CES with a 5 inch OLED screen offering a spectacular 441ppi pixel density.

source: KoreaTimes via BGR

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posted on 21 Nov 2012, 17:35 15

1. jphillips63 (Posts: 224; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


I'm no fan of either, well except Samsung TV sets. But if Samsung truly has a leg to stand on and I say hold your ground and don't cave in to apple. I'm like many others I'm tired of these lawsuits and just wish they agree to disagree and move on.

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 17:58 12

7. AnTuTu (Posts: 1580; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)


Its like without a Father no kids lolzzzz :p

Well said Shin :)

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 18:53 13

21. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


You go, J.K. Shin!

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 19:38 13

30. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Those are fighting words by Shin. Some of us agree with him tho. Looks like Samsung is in this for the long haul. Good luck Samsung.

Anything to knock Apple down a few notches, knock some of that arrogance of their shoulders, so be it.

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 19:39 10

32. Cynipap999 (banned) (Posts: 138; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)


That's right JK, wipe the floor and male Apple juice out of 'em!!

posted on 22 Nov 2012, 01:43

49. thelegend6657 (unregistered)


I agree with you , the only samsung products I like are their TV . For tab I like Asus / iPad for phone HTC .
For DVD/Bluray player I use LG / Sony .

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 17:37 6

2. Johnnokia (Posts: 1108; Member since: 27 May 2012)


Both of you would not be without Nokia.

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 18:14 19

9. bayusuputra (Posts: 963; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)


and nokia wouldn't be around if Motorola never came up with the first hand phone..

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 18:53 12

20. Johnnokia (Posts: 1108; Member since: 27 May 2012)


Full respect for Nokia, Motorola, Blackberry and Ericsson.
They are the real innovative companies for the mobile world

posted on 22 Nov 2012, 01:44

50. thelegend6657 (unregistered)


I agree , except for the blackberry part

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 18:55 5

22. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Possibly, but Nokia and Siemens did one heck of a lot to push the technology farther and faster than not, as well as introduce stuff Moto hadn't thought of. The trifecta really helped shape our world, and I hope they are able to continue that in the future

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 22:13 1

39. stealthd (unregistered)


Not true at all. If motorola hadn't gotten it, Bell labs would have. Just because they were first does not mean the entire industry is reliant on them.

posted on 22 Nov 2012, 10:07

53. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Precisely. There are much developments being done worldwide. No one country or company has the monopoly on all innovation.

...despite what apple likes to think of itself in its narcissitical dreams.

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 19:33 3

29. doejon (Posts: 398; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


and nokia would be dead without microsoft eve apple

posted on 22 Nov 2012, 07:11 2

52. doejon (Posts: 398; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


*even apple would be dead today

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 17:38 12

3. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


"The executive who heads up the Korean firm's mobile division, J.K. Shin, told reporters in Seoul on Wednesday that without Samsung's wireless patents, Apple would not be able to produce its iconic smartphone."

HA! This is basically a nice flick of a finger to Apple.

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 17:41 2

4. Peter98 (Posts: 119; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)


Maybe this is true.
Then Apple say: "Without we are using touchscreen and hold many more patents, Samsung cant even get the phone done!"
Then Nokia say: "Without my Nokia 3310, how the world will get a phone today."

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 17:46 10

6. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Motorola: Without me, there wouldn't be no cell phone.

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 17:46 9

5. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


I just wish Apple paid the LTE patents and both move on.

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 18:04 1

8. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


Samsung had this aggressive attitude before and that cost them a billion. let's see how much money they will loose on this one as there is no way the iphone gets banned in its home turf... no way..

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 18:15 20

10. webOSlove (unregistered)


You're stupid.

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 18:20 4

11. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


I am a lot of things..

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 18:56 14

24. Kan_wha (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)


But stupid happened to be one of them.

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 19:00 2

25. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Why the downvote? We all are a lot of things. Lots of cells, lots of genetic formations, evolutionary, human, ethnic, lingual, technologically educated, etc.

+1 from me, even if it wasn't the most useful of comments

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 19:20 4

26. plgladio (Posts: 314; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


gallitoking: the money you are talking about is not credited into Apple account, case is still continuing not finalised, so lets not comment about the money as of now..

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 19:33

28. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


Apple stock goes down a penny and Android claim Apple is shutting their doors... trust me if me claiming stuff that hasn't happen yet bothers you then you are barking at the wrong Apple tree..

posted on 22 Nov 2012, 10:16

54. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


A penny? It's tanked like $200 already. That's a lot of pennies.

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 21:56 3

38. NaRFL (Posts: 25; Member since: 09 Apr 2012)


Yeah right... u r not just stupid but also an idiot.

posted on 22 Nov 2012, 05:43 2

51. trunkmonkey (Posts: 6; Member since: 31 Mar 2012)


you do realize they there is a lot of reviewing going on regarding the first billion dollar trial and it is highly unlikely Apple will get anywhere near this?

posted on 21 Nov 2012, 19:42 3

33. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Cost them a billion? Last time I checked, it hasnt been paid yet. That settlement isnt set in stone yet. Bounce back got invalidated by the USPTO, remember? Thats one Apple patent down the drain. It wont be a billion when its finally said n done.

Unless you are talking about some other case where Samsung was ordered to pay a billion dollars....

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