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Apple's German court filings made the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 look more identical to the iPad 2 than it is

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Apple's German court filings made the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 look more identical to the iPad 2 than it is
This shouldn't come as a surprise considering that tweets from the Dutch courtroom, where Apple was trying to win an injunction and sales ban of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 in the Netherlands, said that lawyers on both sides came down to the "they started it first" level.

Apple's German court filings made the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 look more identical to the iPad 2 than it is
Still, it looks like Apple, or most likely its German legal team, might have done some quick Photoshop-ing on a picture of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 next to an iPad 2, and presenting it as a visual aid in court. On page 28 of the Duesseldorf court complaint with which Apple won a pan-European sales ban for Samsung's flagship tablet, the image of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 looks stretched to 1.36 aspect ratio, which is closer to the 1.3 on the iPad 2, thus making them look more similar than they actually are.

To top it off, although in Europe the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 comes with the TouchWiz UX preinstalled, Apple used a screenshot of the app drawer, where applications icons sit in a grid just like, well, on the iPad 2 in the picture next to it. The legal team also appears to have used the picture of a non-European version, since the Samsung logo on the bezel is not present, while a quick trip to Amazon Germany or local electronics retailers have shown it should be there.

Apple's German counsels of the Freshfields, Bruckhaus & Deringer firm were probably overzealous to earn their legal fees, but they shouldn't have gone to such lengths, if the manipulation has been done on purpose. We already saw that German courts are obliged to grant injunctions over a few vague tablet Community Design sketches that Apple has submitted in 2004 anyway. Moreover, the actual complaint also contains real photos of both tablets side by side, so there was no point of stooping to eager intern levels in convincing the judge - once the sketch rights have been granted, the only thing left for the court is to pull the trigger now and ask questions later, the way that this EU Community Design system has worked since 2002.

The law firm has declined to comment on the stretched image investigation, which was done by the Dutch IDG publication Webwereld, whose editor Andreas Udo de Haes has been diligently tweeting all the developments from the courtroom, for which we are thankful.

source: Webwereld.nl (translated) via Computerworld

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posted on 16 Aug 2011, 06:38 20

1. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


Ha, apple even tries to forge the evidence to suit them.
The court should notice this, and especially Samsung should point this out to the judges !

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 07:39 12

6. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3759; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Finally PhoneArena.com steps up & covers this news. This article was released yesterday, but hey better late than never. The balls Apple has is incredible. All you need is to put an iPad 2 & a Galaxy Tab 10.1 & they look nothing alike. This shows without a doubt that Apple LIES & MANIPULATES anything to get their way. This includes people. Why do you think there is an infestation of brainless iSheep out there. Apple WILL do whatever it takes, good or BAD. They don't care about anything or anyone, JUST PROFIT. They slander Samsung, HTC & anyone who gets in their way. The real FEAR they have for Android, Samsung & HTC is totally there. The FEAR drives them to lie, & manipulate because BOTH Samsung & HTC are making better products. Apple just needs to stop the bull & concentrate on making better products so they can compete. This is proof that Apple without any question is a cheat, liar & a company fixated with only one thing MONEY, not the advancement of the mobile industry. This completely ruins their credibility. Apple is foul for doing this, I will NEVER buy an Apple product again. They are a rotten & dirty corporation. Let’s see how the iSheep spin this around. This should be fun! lol

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 09:14 8

10. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


I only had to send PA a link from 2 or 3 different sources yesterday..lol. I thought they were gonna keep ignoring it.

Love the spin saying that it was the lawyers, not apple that did this. I don't know too many high paid lawyers that would intentionally lie to a court without the client knowing first... especially for such a huge corperation. Apple knew and gave permission.. or these lawyers would all be fired.

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 09:21 4

13. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3759; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Yes remixfa, something is up with PhoneAre...sorry iPhoneArena.com. It's almost like they didn't want to cover this news at all! How can Apple not have a clue on what their lawyers are saying. This looks more & more suspect. Apple should be ashamed of themselves!

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 14:50

31. joaolx (Posts: 351; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Apple doesn't need money. They have more money than the USA government. They make this lawsuits because they also have the right to protect they're patents just like HTC is suing Apple because they protect they're patents. They have the total right to do that. I love apple but i have an android, which has a much richer OS. But do they need to compete? Just look at the sales of every apple product. More than 20 million iPhones. I don't have any problem at all with other companies suing Apple. Win it or not i will always love apple products just like i love samsung and other companies. I admit i i'm an Apple fan if i can i'll buy the best phone that i can and not an iPhone. And don't think apple fanboys only buy they're products. That is the most stupid thing to say.

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 15:14 1

32. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3759; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


If you know anything then you know Apple FIRST infringed on Nokia's patents, that is why they pay Nokia royalties. Why should Apple's patents even count when those NEW patents came from infringed patents from Nokia? Apple is full of sh*t. This only proves Apple's true motive. They want money & are willing to sh*t on anyone who gets in their way. To go as far to manipulate stuff that they are going to use as evidence is the ultimate low blow. Apple is willing to break the LAW to further their agenda. Apple is foul & greedy. They are despicable in their business ethics & so on. Apple is truly what is wrong in the mobile industry. They will stop at no lengths to have their way!

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 15:45

33. joaolx (Posts: 351; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Say whatever you want. Apple loses as many lawsuits as they want to. I will always like every company and i'm not saying they break patens. if they break any, then get sued. I don't care. It's justice. But there's something everybody should remember, which is that other companies break apple patents, like it or not. Not to talk about bad about companies."Apple is truly what is wrong in the mobile industry". That makes me laugh and remember every time a iPhone got out and that it was better than every other else. Not now. Everything you said, i could say to every other company for making a lawsuit that are pointless. JUSTICE. Justice needs to be served to every company and to Apple. there are patents for just the way you scroll on menus. No one can know if they're breaking any patent. In this case Apple should lose and be punished for it. But when your favorite company or any other does something like this you better don't forget every s**t you just said.There are many companies that infringe apple patents and the other way around so think before talking s**t about ANY company.

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 15:55 1

35. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3759; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Apple is the one who cheats, lies & manipulates evidence at court. I don't read of other companies reducing themselves to Apple's level. Apple is willing to break the LAW. What other corporations do that? Apple is NOT protecting themselves by giving false evidence like they did in this article. Apple is the one who is seeking to ban Samsung & they are doing it with false information or altered information. When last time I check that was illegal. It's not Apple's right to protect themselves with false or altered information in a court of law. It's not talking sh*t about Apple, it's speaking the truth. Apple did that whether you want to believe it or not! This is not a lie, this is fact! Apple did falsify & manipulate evidence in a court of law in a premeditated manner!

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 06:38 6

2. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


FINALLY!!!
this just goes to show you that apple is nothing but scared. Now that google hit the motherload of patents, including the one to actually make a call(which the iPhone doesn't so very well in), we can finally enjoy apple getting a taste of their own medicine.
go google and android!!
if you lie in court, isn't there some kind of punishment you get? please can someone serve apple some justice!!

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 07:04 4

3. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


If Apple still wins this...

How to become rich:

Get a law degree.
Become a judge in patent cases Apple is involved in.
?????*
PROFIT!!!!

*NOTE: there is an exception to the norm here where we actually know step 3 is accept whatever bribes you get from Apple to side with them.

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 07:17

4. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


Got your mail now.
Working on a reply.
Will be interesting to see your reply on the rest of my arguments as well : )

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 07:33

5. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


All right, I'll see what I can get done in between tasks at work. :)

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 08:10

8. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


Great : )

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 07:47 8

7. Hallucinator (Posts: 339; Member since: 24 May 2010)


I have a Ipad2 and my buddy has a Samsung 10.1. They do look similar, but they are both TABLETS. What was Samsung supposed to do? Make it round.

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 08:56 1

9. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Bottom line is Samsung put out a copycat product and will most likely be banned. I live in the real world where Apple is a successful company that puts put amazing products. You trolls live in la la land.

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 09:15 8

11. Deluxe (unregistered)


Does apple pay you to support things like this? This article probably shows apple has lied (or accidentally put fourth a bad tab 10.1 pic) and samsung should indeed win their appeal.

Yes, I admit apple does makes good products but suing everyone that has anything that could be a possible threat is just silly.

It wouldn't surprise me if the trolls in this article are the "iworshipers" who apparently support forged evidence whither it is intentionally forged or not.

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 09:17 8

12. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


playing WoW in your moms basement is not the real world. The fact that u continue to turn a blind eye to the lies of apple just makes you an even bigger iDiot than normal.

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 09:53 5

14. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Congratulations, Taco. You've just defended perjury, tampering with evidence, and probably a half a dozen other court law violations.

Have you no shame?

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 10:48 4

15. AppleFUD (unregistered)


I think you mean Apple copied many others in order to put out the iPhone and iPad (just like they always have). . . so you are saying Samsung copied the copycat. . . got it ;)

You really need too research and check prior art for your company taco50. . . I know you are a employee but after a while you just look sad and like a clueless idiot when you defend them on undefendable positions.

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 11:41 3

19. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/samsung-digital-picture-frame-stores-pics-movies-music/

http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/04/samsungs-digital-photo-frame/

Never mind how the back looks...since Apple might be naming the Xoom in a lawsuit for hardware. Since Apple seems to be suing ppl for the front of the tablet.....explain this...

Still think Apple doesnt do it share of copying? Didnt I post this before?

http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960s-braun-products-hold-the-secrets-to-apples-future

Check out the...similarities....between Apple products in this one too:

http://5magazine.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/dieter-rams-less-but-better/

Check out the iPhone calculator app...

Some companies copy, take inspiration from others work. Apple...is....no....different.....The only difference is they are anal when someone "copies" them.

posted on 17 Aug 2011, 09:05 2

42. droidnator (Posts: 87; Member since: 10 Mar 2011)


One of the best comments I've seen lately, bro! True - apple copycats...

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 11:47 5

21. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3759; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Ok taco50, I live in a world where Apple manipulates evidence, & lies in a courtroom because all they want is PROFIT. You are not a person to Apple, you are just money, a piece of paper to them. Apple is successful in a VERY horrible way, nice world YOU live in!

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 18:45

38. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You must fall under the illiterates in the android vs iOS survey

posted on 17 Aug 2011, 07:47 2

41. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3759; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


taco50 you don't need a survey to classify you, you naturally fall under life’s defects. You are a total defect of our human civilization or worse, an iSheep! lol If life is like an assembly line, you would have been thrown out. If this was ancient Greece, like in the movie 300 they would have thrown you of a cliff like they did that baby. lol See taco50 2 can play your stupid game! lol

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 15:55

34. joaolx (Posts: 351; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Samsung did not copy iPad but iPhone4 with the samsung galaxy s2. But i do live too in that world. Apple is in my opinion making a difference just like every company but apple stands out for me because i like it more than any other out there. Say what you want. You'll never make us leave the apple world.

posted on 17 Aug 2011, 03:10 1

39. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


Actually Samsung did not copy the iphone 4 with the GS2.
I can agree that samsung copied iphone 3GS with the Galaxy S, and the iphone 4 with the Galaxy Ace.

posted on 17 Aug 2011, 16:00

47. joaolx (Posts: 351; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


GS is the same as GS2

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 11:23

16. Dave (unregistered)


MS Paint can call out their lies just as easily. See the above image as proof.

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 11:25

18. Dave (unregistered)


http://i56.tinypic.com/2ce g a y f.jpg (Remove the spaces, it thinks I'm typing an offensive word, but it's just the URL. It is the resized images as proof.

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 11:47 4

20. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)


taco is the biggest troll i have ever seen..apple can lie and he still on they nuts what world do u really live in.

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 13:58

26. gallitoking (Posts: 4682; Member since: 17 May 2011)


Tmachaveli this is not Gotham City where Batman serves and protect againts evil. companys lie cheat and steal ( Eddie Guerrero) all the time.. this is reality.. every one lies ,, thats the world we live in.. where there is no Batman to protect us... trust me i sent the bat signal and no repsonse....

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 12:53 2

22. gallitoking (Posts: 4682; Member since: 17 May 2011)


you guys say potato I say potatoe........ well it sounds different whe u say than when you write it.... If a judge will falls for a picture instead of having the two products side by side before making a decision.. why is it Apple fault?.. they just taking advantage of the dumb a** judge in my mind. but like a said before.. Apple may come up with crazy lawsuits, but if we get some one to believe them... then they are not that crazy.....

ps.. dont hate the player..hate the game...

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 13:59 1

27. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


i DO hate the game, and its called suing over vague ideas that are just sketches, hell i drew sketches of rectangles in kindergarten drawing class back in 96, apple won't sue me for drawing rectangles would they?
lol apple is no longer innovative, they're just playing catch up.

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 14:11 1

29. gallitoking (Posts: 4682; Member since: 17 May 2011)


hmm mr wassup we will track you down. and bring you to justice... lol . i always wanted to say that.. Apple is not playing catch up.. is Android rushing things... being sloppy... Apple doesnt roll like that.. glad to read you around here wassup

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 17:07

37. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


lol good luck finding me :D
android and rushing.. well i admit we DO do that sometimes, but now we're just adding features, and on the SGS2, it's like there ISN'T ANY LAG, and is a really good phone. Apple IS playing catch up, like adding the notification area 4 years after the first android phone, multi tasking, which even SYMBIAN was doing before the iPhone was even created.
glad to read you around here too Gallito :)

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 14:02 1

28. p0rkguy (Posts: 683; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


Why isn't it Apple's fault? They submitted altered/false evidence.
If by that statement that "they just taking advantage of the dumb ass judge in my mind.", they most likely take advantage of dumb ass consumers. It's why most Apple users are ignorant when it comes to their devices. They are only capable of doing what Steve Jobs has said and limited them to doing.

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 14:16 1

30. gallitoking (Posts: 4682; Member since: 17 May 2011)


wow you called millions of consumer ignorant.... nodody does what Mr. Jobs says. and I am not only saying it because my grandma is here... Apple is just another sucessful product out there .. love or hate it... one last time we are not followers... (coming grandma)

posted on 17 Aug 2011, 07:31

40. p0rkguy (Posts: 683; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


A lot of people using Apple devices are ignorant.
People are using their Apple devices exactly like how Jobs says. There are a small % that actually jailbreak and unlock their true potential but that's about it.

What I'm really upset about is how once the iPhone came out, people miraculously come out and happen to be "knowledgeable" on technology. This is what makes Apple users ignorant. I mean where were they before iOS?

posted on 17 Aug 2011, 11:41 1

43. gallitoking (Posts: 4682; Member since: 17 May 2011)


then i guess I am ignorant because I use things how I am supposed to use them for.. I open my milk carton how the instructions says, i open boxes from the top like the instructiosn says, porkguy I guess you are a rebel and ignorant, and since I assume youi dont own a iphone so android users can also be igonarant... exhibit A..

posted on 17 Aug 2011, 15:01 2

46. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Well damn...I agree with this too. lol

posted on 17 Aug 2011, 14:58 2

45. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Gotta agree with this. Give Apple credit for taking advantage of the EU system.

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 13:02

23. chocolatebear76 (Posts: 121; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)


HAHAHA! IOS suckers!http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/german-court-lifts-ban-on-some-european-samsung-galaxy-10-1-sale/

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 13:27 3

24. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


Yes!!!
Apple will not win the case against Samsung.
PA, please post an article

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 13:42 1

25. droidfan007 (unregistered)


Anybody speaks Dutch?
http://webwereld.nl/nieuws/107616/duitse-rechter-heft-europees-galaxy-tab-verbod-op.html
they can sell the Galaxy again.
ok I put it google translate
http://goo.gl/NXNlz

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 16:50

36. alphabeta (unregistered)


What really is going on is sort of like a cold war, but on this war theyre actually hitting eachother and bad, its all basically who has more power and obviously apple is not using brain power, theyre using bully power trying to win at all stakes, its not really working they should get a fine for letting theyre lawyers do such a thing..

posted on 17 Aug 2011, 13:22

44. downphoenix (Posts: 2267; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


If I was the courts, after finding that they altered evidence, they should not only reverse the ruling but provide a temporary injuncture to Apple, I think a month of no Ipad sales in Euroep would be sufficient.

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