Meet the not-so-new Qualcomm Snapdragon 650 and 652 processors
posted by Ben R. / Dec 17, 2015, 10:02 AM
Qualcomm has decided to change the names of the Snapdragon 618 and 620 to the Snapdragon 650 and 652 respectively. Qualcomm's intention is to help better differentiate these chips from the likes of the Snapdragon 615, 616 and 617, which the company sees as inferior enough to warrant the rebrand. Aside from the naming, the 'new' processors are no different to the old.
Versus other SoCs of the 6xx variety, the now-Snapdragon 650 and 652 offer a couple of advantages -- the Category 6 X8 LTE modem being chief among them. The new naming scheme certainly makes a degree of sense when the tech. specs are taken into consideration. With that said, renaming products that have already been released -- particularly given that Qualcomm already has an exhaustive list of mobile processors out in the wild -- seems a strange move at best. At worst, it's an unnecessarily confusing one.
In an official clarification post on its site, Qualcomm states that:
Along with the Cat. 6 LTE, the Snapdragon 650 and Snapdragon 652 processors are supportive of 4K Ultra HD video capture and playback. Perhaps Qualcomm was worried that by running with numbers in the early 600s, users would underestimate what these chips are truly capable of.
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What I found strange is the old naming as there was a significant change in the CPU moving from A53 to A72 cores. The new names make a lot more sense.
posted on Dec 17, 2015, 10:08 AM 7
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Mediatek's naming convention is so more confusing.
posted on Dec 17, 2015, 10:30 AM 5
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IMO it's a good move from Qualcomm since they have messed up their 6xx lineup with crappy SoC like SD 610, 615, etc in the last 2 years. When SD 600 was released, it was used as highend SoC in many popular flagship devices like Galaxy S4,HTC One, etc 3 years ago. So I think Qualcomm is trying to remake their SD 6xx lineup slightly highend. SD 652 is nearly high end SoC considering it features 4x 1.8 GHz Cortex A72 + 4x A53 and it got 1500+ in single core at GeekBench in recent leaks. And also its GPU is named as Adreno 510 that seems promising.
posted on Dec 17, 2015, 11:19 AM 4
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sd620 is a very powerful cpu. They should put andreno 430 with it and should get it manufactured on TSMC 16nm process. Only bad point about this Soc is Andreno 510 and 28nm manufacturing process
posted on Dec 17, 2015, 12:19 PM 7
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S6xx series compete in very cost sensitive market...it's not possible for qualcomm to afford latest manufacturing process. For GPU...Best qualcomm would do is bump ALU count from 48 to 64. and bring it on par with first gen Adreno 320. Qualcomm would never bring powerful GPU to S6xx series simply to save cost and die space.
posted on Dec 17, 2015, 12:54 PM 1
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510 will be a tiny bit more poweful than 330.
posted on Dec 17, 2015, 1:42 PM 1
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Adreno 330 has 128 ALU...and I can bet Qualcomm would never put that many ALU in GPU for S6xx series. Adreno 405 (in S615, S616 and S617) has 48 ALU. Qualcomm would only put 64 (Adreno 320 1st gen) ALU in Adreno 510...and just in case...we are lucky...then 96 ALU (Adreno 320 2nd gen).
posted on Dec 17, 2015, 2:20 PM 1
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HTC One M8 (Adreno 330):https://gfxbench.com/device.js
SD620/Adreno 510 test device:https://gfxbench.com/device.js msm8952+%28Adreno+510%2C+devel opment+board%29&testgroup=over all p?benchmark=gfxgen&D=Qualcomm+ msm8952+%28Adreno+510%2C+devel opment+board%29&testgroup=over all
posted on Dec 18, 2015, 7:54 AM 0
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Yet, they still sells like hotcackes.
posted on Dec 17, 2015, 4:34 PM 2
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Because Qualcomm licenses patents with their chip sales. In India, xiaomi can't sell phones with mediatek soc, else Ericsson will sure them for essential 2g, 3g patents. But can sell SD equipped phones...
posted on Dec 17, 2015, 7:41 PM 0
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