Sprint will not charge for FaceTime over cellular
1. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
That's crazy that carriers want to charge for app usage. They're already getting paid for the data.
2. tlsmithsr (Posts: 75; Member since: 28 Sep 2010)
I'm really thinking about switching to Sprint from Tmo.. Some may say that is a step up and others may say its a step down but the coverage is pretty good in my area and unlimited data would be awesome when I'm not wifi..
4. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
T Mobile doesn't have unlimited data. They cap you and throttle your speed. It's a deceptive marketing gimmick.
10. Brewski (Posts: 103; Member since: 05 Jun 2012)
That's why he said he's switching TO Sprint FROM T-Mobile. Read more carefully Taco.
14. ardent1 (Posts: 1862; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Brewski, Taco made a statement that neither affirmed nor disaffirmed the OP's position. Taco simply clarified Tmobile's data plan.
Perhaps Brewski is the one that needs to read with more care.
11. D.Aceveda (Posts: 300; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
A deceptive marketing gimmick that all but 1 carrier uses. What's your point?
13. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Actually AT&T and VZW and Sprint don't use it.
24. tlsmithsr (Posts: 75; Member since: 28 Sep 2010)
I'm making the jump today(to sprint)... Now the problem is what phone.. GS3 or Gal Nexus.. Both have great prices at Radio Shack.. GS3 is 150 and Gal nexus is 49.99 both without a mail in rebate.. What do you guys think?
26. kaintae (Posts: 37; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
i've had both. loved them both. but the gs3 takes it in my opinion
31. EvoHero (Posts: 38; Member since: 15 May 2011)
I think you should get your phone somewhere else and not start with a screwed up account.
28. D.Aceveda (Posts: 300; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
Actually AT&T, VZW, and T-Mobile all use it. Next.
5. archangel9 (Posts: 226; Member since: 07 Feb 2010)
Go w/Sprint.I did a mock purchase w/Tmo and the charges are just ridiculous.confusing too.for the gs 3 they wanted 329. whereas Sprint only 199. And now they flipped the switch on LTE,it's only gonna get better
8. aikonix (Posts: 59; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)
Honestly, Sprint would be a step down from T-Mo if your thinking in terms in internet speed, yes. Sprint's internet speed is NOT the greatest and nor do i have any speculation on their new LTE speeds but rated 6-13 Mbps which is very slow for LTE. But, the benefit of Sprint is they are truly unlimited for data which is nice compared to T-Mo lying to their cust and throttling you at 5gb... But overall, Sprint isnt too much of a step down if not at all
3. Birds (Posts: 848; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Data rates just went from 296 kbps to 4 kbps on 3G.
15. ardent1 (Posts: 1862; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Birds, are you confusing data SPEED with RATES?
6. kingpet13 (Posts: 139; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
Sprint seems to be the only carrier that still cares about the customer in the U.S. unfortunately they just cant grow as muc as att or vzw.
7. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 612; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Lol, cool story bro. Cares about customers my ass, more like trying to scavenge as many new customers as they can. This whole company is in the hole trying to get the "Holy" iPhone on the network and believe you me it's a long term debt. They are taking a hit and once LTE gets enough people on the pindropping network you can bet your ass that they will switch to tiered and throttling because if you give people an inch these jackasses will take a mile and then some. Sorry but customers can be assholes, there are some people who rack up 15+ gigs on a cell phone. Honestly unless you are using your phone as a WiFi hotspot that is ludicrous, you aren't even using it for anything other that frivolous nonsense anyway.
My gf has the SGS3 and that thing is 4G enabled, she has the 5GB limit and was at 2 GB in about a week of having the phone. 4G is a blessing and a curse, you get blazing fast speed, but you get to your limits relatively fast.
I still say carriers are assholes, why do I need a data plan with my smartphone, perhaps I like my damn tablet want to only use data on WiFi. This forced data plan is bs, I don't even think they can stop you from getting a smartphone without a data plan, legally that is. I have to check up on that one. Home internet is truly unlimited and still faster than 4G that is out now, but with LTE pushing into home internet territory something has to give. I'll be damned if my home service all of a sudden gets tiered.
9. aikonix (Posts: 59; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)
home internet carriers are infact "tier'ing" their packages.. Comcast has a 250gig limit and will shut u off lol.... WHATS this world coming too with this s**tty CAPPED crap??? If a carrier were to offer service say at $30 a month, unlmited internet (fast too), unlimited voice and text/picmail AND sitll have a really good phone selection or allow u to use ur own phones -- you'd see tons of people dropping their current carrier for this, but no, we get crappy subcarriers who offer CRAPPY phones, really crappy, slow and horrible service, and some good unlimited prices -- which aint a good deal considering.... prices are going up, landline carriers are picking up the "tiered" prices, this world is in CHAOS, chaos of GREED
12. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
^ranting hater^ wow
and our gf uses 2GB... good for her, the rest of us with balls average bout 7GB
btw LTE has been live for Sprint and ummm still no caps.
16. kaintae (Posts: 37; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
Where are your statistics on that 7gb for the users with balls? Yes, LTE is out. You're right, no caps. But they don't have customers either. And the 20 or so ppl on sprint's unlimited network don't even have LTE phones to use on those "uncapped" plans.
Let's say they do catch up with the big 2 (they won't). But do you really think they'll keep that "unlimited" plan forever? Last i checked, they were a for profit company like everyone else. They'll do what everyone else is doing. Just much later.
17. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
To answer your first question regarding the 7GB average usage, that is my own personal statistic because I work for Sprint and I get to see this stuff all day everyday. Ofcourse, the average AT&T, Verizon, Tmo user averages about 1GB and that is because they discourage you from using it by charging you extra or throttling. (usage is a punishment)
Now regarding your statement about us having 20 customers... any point you were trying to make was lost after that. Sprint is the #3 carrier in the US and own 80,000 towers. More than Verizon an AT&T combined (you need to do some homework if you didnt know that). Sprint also owns more spectrum than any other carrier and that is why it can handle serving unlimited data.
BTW: Evo LTE, Galaxy Nexus, LG Viper, Galaxy S3
18. kabu7x (Posts: 10; Member since: 04 May 2012)
i agree with bucko i believe sprint is a better service provider than tmobile. the unlimited data that sprint pushes is what really bring customers in. i had to switch back to tmobile due to my money situation. but u bet your ass once i get my money up im coming back to sprint for that unlimited data its such and advantage u have no idea. i would be pulling 26gig+ a month on sprint cause i tether my phone i dont need cable internet sprint is fast enough for that. i hope they get the galaxy note 2 by the time i come back. the galaxy s 3 is a nice phone but coming from an epic 4g touch its no really such a big upgrade. but i will be back sprint i willllllll be backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
20. benzb (Posts: 16; Member since: 19 Jan 2012)
You are EXACTLY the reason why carriers are throttling data and placing data caps. Unlimited data was never intended to tether your phone to your computer. It was for "unlimited" internet on your phone only. You as well as others like you cause people who use their phone for normal use suffer from extremely slow internet on Sprint...
19. benzb (Posts: 16; Member since: 19 Jan 2012)
I don't know what Sprint can handle and what they can't. I do know that Sprint has always been a company that gives (almost) everything away just to get/retain customers. It's almost as if they are desperate! I remember when I had Sprint they offered me their 900 minute plan for the cost of their 450 minute plan, plus a $20 monthly discount, plus a 27% employee discount, plus 5 free numbers to make/receive calls to/from, plus a free airave (signal booster), and more....No other cellphone company that I know gives you that much to keep you as a customer. I left because I needed better coverage for work and VZW suits my needs.
If they are able to get/retain customers without giving unlimited data along with other freebies, I can assure you that it will stop.
21. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)
Are you sure Sprint "owns" their towers b/c last time I checked they were leasing their towers. If their network has so much girth & stability why is Sprint such a sinking ship? So more spectrum + more towers (apparently) + unlimited data = still less profitable than the top 2? That doesn't make sense. Enjoy unlimited data while you can b/c if you've worked in the cellular industry for a good amount of time you know things change. Companies do what's profitable. People think At&t or Verizon charge more simply b/c they want to but the reality is...there's operators costs to be maintained. As your LTE coverage grows just wait, unlimited data will slowly exit - stage left. But as for now, unlimited data & cheap prices (which ends up being only $20-$30 cheaper after all the fees for smart phone users) are their ONLY gimmick to survive this rough cellular battle.
25. kaintae (Posts: 37; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
is that 7GB on phones only? or does it take into account clearwire's mbb? (honest question).
touche on your point about the 80,000 towers. but if you have all those towers, have all that spectrum, and are offering your customers unlimited data...then why are you still at #3? how can they be cheaper, and offer all those great things, and still not have the same appeal as their bigger competitors? do they not advertise enough, to where all those people are simply ignorant of how great sprint is?....or is sprint really just not that good, despite the offers?
let's be honest...sprint has a lot of spectrum. but not all spectrum is good spectrum. they have some pretty nice phones too. but it's like driving a lamborghini in the ocean. a phone is only as good as the network it's on.
IF they somehow draw all those customers to their unlimited plan, they will eventually need to see a return on their investment into the iphone and into the LTE network. (you don't just upgrade for free). you tell me how you think they'll pay for that.
29. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
I have to admit kaintae, I mistook you for a dchebagg when I read your first comment. This post was much more instructive.
To answer your first question, Im not sure. I just know from what I've seen on the average users bill ranges from 4GB - 9GB (again not a real statistic but my what I've seen)
Regarding why, if we own so much spectrum/towers, and are cheaper, are we still #3. You have to remember that cheaper never means better. Not everybody drives lexus, acura, or bmw. Most people own a car that suits their needs. The reason AT&T and Verizon have more subscribers is because they have more funds. Verizon bought Alltel which almost doubled them in size and made it to number 1 just like that. At&t bought numerous GSM carriers, Cingular being the biggest one, and made it to where they are (the Tmo buyout woulda crowned them for life)
Sprint has historically made bad investments, they bought Nextel when it was cool and slowly died. They bought Boost mobile (another company that WAS cool with the *chirpchirp* walkie talkie) that died too. They invested in Clearwire another bad investment because WiMAX is not only slow but at 2500mhz they would have to set up almost 3 times the towers just so it wont get completely smoked by LTE.
On the other hand Verizon has been very smart with their investments. they bought the 700mhz spectrum from FCC and that set the stage for domination. (ncase you dont kno, the lower the frequency the longer the coverage range. just like the bass in a car can be heard from far but tweeters not so much) That means their 40k towers can do the job of Sprint's 80K. And if you wonder why the speeds are better, its simple: when you pay a toll for the expressway theres less traffic and faster speed limit, but people with no money take the cheap route with more traffic. Sprints network has more traffic, and as a matter of fact Verizon has a roaming contract with Sprint and uses our towers (even more traffic). Verizon discourages data usage by charging more $ for more data, so that the rich people have faster data speeds and dump more money for Verizon to invest in their network.
Make sense? To answer your last question: How will they pay for upgrading to LTE? I'd like to know that myself and so would everybody at Sprints board of directors. But one thing is for sure, Sprint will ALWAYS hold a spot in the top. Even though they dont have funds they have healthy income and own a lot of spectrum, including the 800mhz Nextel spectrum that they are about to unleash LTE on, after they get those truck drivers and construction workers off that network.
Now all they need is $$$ :/
30. jerry.english (Posts: 3; Member since: 01 Feb 2012)
Why do you need a data plan with your smartphone? If you don't want data, then WHY DO YOU NEED A SMARTPHONE? Why would a for-profit business subsidize a phone that you don't want to pay for the service to use it to its full potential? If you don't want data, check out the feature phones. They talk and text VERY WELL!
22. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
I applaud Sprint for not trying to rip off it's customers for a feature that allows video chat to exist since 2009. It might be new to iphone but android devices have been video chatting forever. Trust me Asst&t and Verizon will figure out a way to make more money.
23. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
And yes Tmobile is boss in this space. Their HSPA PLUS 42MPS network simply s**ts all over Verizon and Sprint.
27. ZayZay (Posts: 530; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)
Isn't Face-time an Apple app? Every carrier should charge more to use an iphone and their apps because they know apple lovers will pay them. Duh. Apple lovers will pay as much as possible to just be seen with an iphone.