Apple cans employee over an iPhone rant on Facebook

Apple cans employee over an iPhone rant on Facebook
If you work for Apple and are unhappy with your iPhone, you may want to keep it to yourself. An employee at the Apple Store in Norwich, UK by the name of Samuel Crisp was terminated for just that. Apparently Crisp had made several derogatory and sarcastic comments in reference to the company. He was then suspended, and later fired.

One instance that was cited was when Crisp was trying out an app for his iPhone, he posted, “****ed up my time zone for the third time in a week and woke me up at 3am? JOY!!” Another was when Apple posted “Tomorrow is just another day. That you’ll never forget.” to hint at the upcoming Beatles release to iTunes, Crisp responded, “Tomorrow’s just another day that hopefully I will forget.

Unfortunately, one of his friends on Facebook, who was also a co-worker, showed all of Crisp’s posts to their boss, which led to his termination. Crisp attempted to file for unemployment, but was denied. The employment tribunal panel stated, “We take into account their position that the Facebook posts were not truly private and could in fact have been forwarded very easily with the claimant having no control over this process.

source: Metro via Redmond Pie

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61 Comments

1. LewsTherin006

Posts: 140; Member since: Nov 18, 2011

And another good reason why you dont rant/ putting anything important on facebook. It can get your fired.

23. jogutier

Posts: 324; Member since: Feb 12, 2010

Dang, what happen to freedom of speech. O' we r talking about natzees. Lol

26. andro.

Posts: 1999; Member since: Sep 16, 2011

Apple employees are placed under massive mental pressure to keep smiling and talk well of apple at all times. Their induction training involves them being tied to a chair with eyes held open and subjected to several 'apple is good,you love apple' training videos until their mental resolve succumbs to the apple darkness that now surrounds them!

42. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

If I own a company and someone is being sarcastic like that I'd fire them too. If the employee wasn't happy with the company he was working for and the products they make, then the boss did them both a favor by firing the guy. The only thing that kind of sucks is that a "friend" turned him in.....ouch

51. noahbf

Posts: 28; Member since: Apr 28, 2009

I wonder if he blocked him..

61. impaler

Posts: 3; Member since: Dec 04, 2011

Nazis. You spelled it like Yahtzee. LOL

60. impaler

Posts: 3; Member since: Dec 04, 2011

You're right. I heard someone reference Facebook and most public websites with the analogy of an open window. Don't be stupid. Assume mom and dad will read it. Assume your wife/girlfriend/husband/boyfriend will read it. Be smart. Assume it'll be in the public forever.

2. bossmt_2

Posts: 459; Member since: Oct 13, 2009

That's why you never list your job or have pictures of you in company attire on facebook. If you do you can be misconstrued as representing the company, if not, then you can probably sue for wrongful firing.

39. tedkord

Posts: 17311; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

It wouldn't matter in this case. Apple security would just show up claiming to be police detectives from your local precinct and go through your PC looking for incriminating evidence.

53. Kease

Posts: 36; Member since: Sep 30, 2011

Actually many companies today have similar policies disclosed in their hiring process...

3. Adianshadows

Posts: 66; Member since: Nov 22, 2011

I would go back and punch that co worker in the face for showing their boss... snitches get stiches IMO... :)

5. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

never bring your co-workers onto your FB, never make your posts public, and never talk too much crap about your job.. especially apple.. they have the fruit gestapo!! lol

35. biophone

Posts: 1994; Member since: Jun 15, 2011

This made me laugh. Fruit gestapo lol

6. Gawain

Posts: 437; Member since: Apr 15, 2010

I wonder if he would have been fired, if this had been passed along as hearsay - i.e. if this guy Crisp had ranted while having a few beers with friends at the bar. Not totally oranges-to-oranges comparison (it stays on the internet *forever*), but you get the gist...

48. TMobileRep_52_SwaaaG

Posts: 40; Member since: Oct 03, 2011

Or...... 'Apple to Apple' comparison..... ope see what i did there?? haha

7. corporateJP

Posts: 2458; Member since: Nov 28, 2009

As much as I'm unimpressed with a good amount of Apple gadgetry, I'd have to tell you I'm on their side on this one. This guy is simply a moron.

10. iamcc

Posts: 1319; Member since: Oct 07, 2011

I don't understand why... Just because he works for Apple doesn't mean his free speech rights are taken away. Maybe if he was venting about his boss being an idiot or something, but to complain about problems with his personal device? They wouldn't have cared if he was venting about his Android phone having problems, just because he works for Apple and has an iPhone shouldn't change it in my opinion.

38. Paden

Posts: 262; Member since: Jul 07, 2011

Your freedom of speech taken away? Please. Microsoft canned a blogger when a superior got an e-mail that had the signature "Sent from my iPhone". Publicly posting something negative about a company event would be enough for any employer to get upset. corporateJP: Yes, agreed. This guy is an idiot. Vent to your friends about work over a beer and not the internet.

41. ReturningToNokia

Posts: 130; Member since: Jul 09, 2011

iamcc...When you get hired by a company, one should always read the fine print, and the Spirit Letter...rules and conduct regarding Social Networks/Posting online is covered, and when you sign on the dotted line, you must abide by those rules as one of the conditions of employment. Perhaps small companies, or mom and pop companies don't have such requirements, but mostly all Fortune 100 companies do. And apparently, Apple, regardless of location, has such conduct requirements. It's also possible that his job performance was also a consideration....

8. ilia1986 unregistered

So, If I work for a certain company - suddenly the content of what I write on the internet is moderated lest I write something hateful about that same company? Really? I thought that there is this little something in America called "Free speech". I'm from Israel - a country which is arguably far from being as advanced as the US is - but over here *you do not get fired from your job just because you posted on Facebook on your personal profile something negative about it (your job)*. It certainly shocks me that you guys are all in for the Big Bad Apple. This is absolutely ridiculous.

11. mctcm

Posts: 204; Member since: Oct 19, 2011

There is also something called "Right to work." He can continue his free speech while unemployed.

12. ilia1986 unregistered

So if you're employed - and you come back home, off duty, your private life - you don't have any free speech? How stupid is that?!

15. Hallucinator

Posts: 390; Member since: May 24, 2010

The only stupid thing is that you can not understand why this is wrong for him to do so.

18. ilia1986 unregistered

Just because I work for a certain company does NOT mean that I must instantly switch my opinions in favor of that company when in the first place I used to think differently. Simple as that. The CEO of nVidia is allowed to say that Radeon cards are better. Someone working @ McDonald's is allowed to say that the food there sucks. A salesman returning home from work is allowed to post on the internet that the product that he is actually selling - is bogus. At least in my country. Sad to hear that it's not like that everywhere else.

21. jburris020

Posts: 17; Member since: Nov 28, 2011

Doesn't the post say he works in the U.K? Does freedom of speech apply

37. biophone

Posts: 1994; Member since: Jun 15, 2011

Freedom if speech is misinterpeted so often. All it means is that you wont get thrown in jail for what you say. You still have to deal with the consquences of what you say. A company can fire their employees because of speech just cant thriw them in jail.

45. r41nier

Posts: 70; Member since: Oct 13, 2011

take a business course and you'll know why this act is unacceptable. read about competence, core values, and employee hiring.

49. TMobileRep_52_SwaaaG

Posts: 40; Member since: Oct 03, 2011

did your business course say anything about direct company policy? i took business values and business law and both were pretty clear that a company withheld the right to protect their assest (i.e. their product in this case) and if their policy had a firm ground on what u post on social networks, then they are clean and clear to do what they (the company) feels it has to do.

58. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

ilia, this is a common issue these days. I dont know about the rest of the world, but in america most states are concidered "right to work". Basically, you can be fired at any time for any reason. While it is not illegal to shout your hatred for your boss from the tops of the hills (or facebook profile), it is in bad taste. As such, you are making PUBLIC declarations disparaging your job. It may be your "private" life, but you are doing it in a public domain. As such, in a public domain, your employer might be listening and has the right to protect their image (and/or be vindictive depending on the case) and release you from employment. If you want to vent about your boss, do it with your friends at home or somewhere where you dont have to worry about the wrong people hearing it. Do NOT put it on your facebook profile. Many companies these days hire people that can scour the internet (everything you post is searchable to some extent) to find what you are really saying about things. Not only can you lose your job by facebook rants, you can be turned down from a job that finds these rants after interviewing you.

13. nicknack84

Posts: 48; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

there is free speech in the US, however this took place in Norwich, UK and not the US.

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