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iPhone 4 resale value goes up as Samsung Galaxy falls

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iPhone 4 resale value goes up as Samsung Galaxy falls
Before we even get into the actual story, let's just get one thing out of the way: we're going to assume that this work behind the data in this story was done fairly, but because it comes from Apple fanalyst Gene Munster of Piper Jaffray, we have some reservations. It seems that if you are one to resell your device down the road, you may get better value from an iPhone than a Samsung Galaxy.

Apparently, Munster and his team checked eBay every week since March. They tracked the last 50 smartphones sold on eBay each week, and averaged out a "fair market price" for each device. Apple products held their value well, with the iPhone 4 actually seeing a rise of 10.31 percent in resale value since April. The iPhone 4S price went down by 11.85 percent, and the iPhone 5 dropped just 3.75 percent. Samsung didn't fare so well with the Samsung Galaxy S III price dropping 27.32 percent, and the Galaxy Note II down 35.54 percent.

The team also checked prices on Chinese auction site Taobao, and found similar results. In China, the iPhone 4 saw its resale value go up by 1.42 percent since April, while the iPhone 4 down 14.32 percent, and the iPhone 5 lost 7.22 percent. Samsung again couldn't hold its value with the Galaxy S III down 24.17 percent, the Galaxy Note II dropped 23.67 percent, and the even the new Galaxy S4 lost 14.39 percent of its resale value.

We do tend to believe the results, because the reputation of a brand, and the social cache of a product help to keep resell values higher, even if the product itself may not necessarily deserve it over another; and, the results mirror what was seen back in May running the same study. You'll see it in every market with various brands, like Prius which holds its value longer than other cars. A brand is worth what the market pays for it. 

source: AppleInsider

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posted on 07 Aug 2013, 21:14

1. joey_sfb (Posts: 2565; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


I just trade back in with the telco than to waste my time with third parties resellers.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 05:53

31. doejon (Posts: 317; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


lol its obvious... cus samsung makes a lot of phone in a year
and apple only 1 phone in 1 year!!

the older ones have to be cheaper if a new product comes out

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 21:49

36. Goldeneye (Posts: 349; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)


Oh boy this is so true the iPhone 5 and GS3 launches were only couple months apart and right now the iPhone 5 current market value is twice as much!

Couple months ago the iPhone 5 sold for about the same as the Note 2 when the Note retails for more than the iPhone right now not so anyone who's looking to trade it for an iPhone needs to put money on top.

As of right now the iPhone 5 is very close to the GS4! Which just launched a few months ago.

All of this compared to an iPhone 5 16 gig model don't even get me started on 32 and 64 gig models.

I've sold tons of phones on Craigslist and ebay so I know what I'm talking about and no I'm not an iPhone fanboy I love Android for my personal use but when is about making a few bucks here and there the iPhone is king.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 21:17 4

2. cabuya (Posts: 24; Member since: 16 Jul 2012)


only good thing about Apple products is they can hold price well even old devises something good they have to had.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 21:40 8

7. quadrazeus (Posts: 359; Member since: 03 May 2013)


And there's a reason for it.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 23:12 6

22. blingblingthing (Posts: 419; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


Right. When apple rewards retailers for not offering discounts as per agreements similar to wireless carriers. The value should hold better. Not sure where I read it. But you can Google it.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 09:31 2

34. quadrazeus (Posts: 359; Member since: 03 May 2013)


Googled and didn't find anything.
Nice try, fandroid.
FAIL.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 21:19 13

3. ajac09 (Posts: 1344; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


all about the name. But quality wise.. yeah no

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 22:05 13

15. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3224; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Actually quality falls on their side as well.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 22:06 3

16. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)


Clearly you have never used an iPhone. Ever.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 08:19 1

32. androidfanboy (Posts: 162; Member since: 24 Jun 2013)


Blind fanboy

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 08:53

33. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)


X_X .

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 21:25 8

4. Dingy_cellar_dweller (Posts: 181; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


It just means that people that buy Apple stuff don't care thats its second hand, I for one like to buy new so used phone prices fall.

Used Apple stuff sells for close to new prices, people are crazy buying other peoples problems.
If you are going to pay nearly the same price for a used product as a new one, take my advice and buy it new.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 22:24 1

19. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 822; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


It's not even close to retail for any of them. I paid $400 for my last iPhone 5 two months ago. I buy and sell a lot of phones, and historically, Apple holds value. The SGSIII dropped so much because they all scratch so easily on ghe back (Same for Note II: Thin, painted plastic scratches easily), and the S3 and N2 generally develop cracks on the corners. HTCs hold value ok because of build quality, but still drop fairly fast, and LG phones typically drop like a stone after release., same as Nokias. Desirability and build quality count in the secondary market.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 21:26 6

5. darkkjedii (Posts: 10122; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I don't know about ebay, but iPhones are usually the most valuable on CL.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 21:33 1

6. Dorothy69 (banned) (Posts: 498; Member since: 21 May 2013)


"Apple Fanalyst"??? There's the pot calling the kettle black!

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 21:50 1

10. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


His findings are based on verifiable fact, so he's probably right on this. It's hilarious to see just how dead wrong he's been on Apple in the past though:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-04-12/gene-munster-says-apple-is-going-to-1-000

Makes me feel slightly ashamed to have attended the same university that he did...

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 21:43

8. AfterShock (Posts: 2124; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


Probably just more clowns coming out of contract and are asking top drawer price.
Then these guys saw higher number of ads.
As they can't prove sold price as analysts can they.
I buy used phones sometimes, no where near asking price.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 21:48 3

9. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1108; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if iPhone value increases because less iPhones are being sold. With Apple upgrading iPhone 4, 4s and 5 to iOS 7 most people don't have a reason to upgrade. It's a strength and weakness for Apple. The iPhone 4 and Droid X came out at the same time. I was a Droid X user and then went to a Verizon Nexus to a Note 2. Some people are still on the ancient iPhone 4. Does Apple brag that their upgrading old devices or do you worry about not selling more phones?
I have 2 eligible upgrades but I won't upgrade my wife's iPhone 5 but I'm upgrading from the Note 2 to the Note 3. That's why resell sucks. Android phones keep getting better.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 21:57 1

13. kozza3 (Posts: 574; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


well duh they hold their value, Apple only released like 6 different phones

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 21:53 12

11. 1113douglas (Posts: 182; Member since: 04 Jul 2013)


well the galaxy s4 is a much better phone than all the iphones.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 22:11 4

17. darkkjedii (Posts: 10122; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


That's not the point lol

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 22:11

37. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


That's debatable. The Galaxy S3 was supposed to be the iPhone killer too. Honestly the iPhone has a more consistent and fluid experience, but the Galaxy can do more things. Quality vs Quantity.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 21:56

12. xtian1103 (Posts: 352; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)


in my country, you can buy a pre owned galaxy s3 16gb the same price as 2nd hand iphone 4 32gb.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 22:05 2

14. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3224; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


This is so obvious. iPhones have high resale value. It doesn't matter if the analyst is a fan or not. A quick search on ebay will easily tell you that.

Michael I honestly don't get why you're posting a lot of negative apple articles lately.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 22:14 5

18. sprockkets (Posts: 1079; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


Weird. According to ebay, the Samsung Galaxy S for the past 7 days sold for $240. The iphone 4 sold for $184.

Check for yourself.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 22:54

20. sprockkets (Posts: 1079; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


http://cgi5.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?SellHub3

SG2 $152
Iphone4s $282
SG3 $267
iphone5 $484
SG4 $528

No capacities entered.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 23:03 3

21. nothingmuch (Posts: 155; Member since: 03 May 2013)


since Apple only has a handful of different phones available the price will be comparatively similar, NOW on the other hand ANDROID has many of different manufacturers with newer devices coming out every couple months or so, so YES prices will be significantly lower once the new wore off, but not just Samsung, all android devices!

Once a new ANDROID device is launched of course prices will drop on certain models cause they're "old" in terms of specs, not cause of the brand. So Michael H. Whats your point on this article?

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 23:13 1

23. taz89 (Posts: 2009; Member since: 03 May 2011)


I think what people need to take into consideration is that the s3 and note 2 price when brought band new is close to 300 pound so it makes sense for the resale value to be less where as devices like the 4s is like 400 pound and the 4 is like 300 pound surprisingly still so there value is higher..its all in the mind...people would rather get a brand new note 2 or s3 as they are fairly new phone with great spec already and they feel like its a bargain already so anyone trying to sell a second hand one of those for 200-250 will have a hard time where as the 4 and 4s are too some already expensive at a brand new price so when a 2nd hand iPhone is at sale for even just 50-100 pound chapter than a band new one they to go for the cheaper one..I only say this from what I have seen happen with some of my friends ..

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 23:15 1

24. Myrith (Posts: 54; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)


I think it's naive to look only at price and to conclude that brand is the main influence. What about quantity? What if the eBay market is flooded with Samsung phones in comparison to iPhones?

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 23:18 1

25. blingblingthing (Posts: 419; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


It's this simple guys. Lots more persons/stores selling lots more android phones means there's much more competition which is good for consumers aka better prices. Compare that to just about any limited edition in any industry.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 22:16 1

38. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


The real question is WHY are so many people selling their Androids.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 23:38 2

26. rallyguy (Posts: 524; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


The facts are biased because it's obvious Apple is comparing themselves to Samsung. There is a reason why they spent time looking at this for so long. If it didn't show in their favor they would of shredded their findings.

Ebay is to unpredictable. It all depends how fast someone wants to sell something.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 00:26 2

27. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


that seems about right however Samsung devices do hold a better resale value than most devices. the only other recent Android phone that held it's value real well that wasn't a Samsung was the Motorola Droid Razr MAXX HD.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 00:53 1

28. breathlesstao (Posts: 71; Member since: 16 Apr 2010)


Well... How many iPhones did apple release since iPhone 4? And how many Galaxies did Samsung release in that same timeframe? Exactly. No wonder something holds its value when there's hardly anything new on offer from the same brand; no wonder something loses value when its manufacturer offers not only newer but also several different versions of devices like every half year.
Then again: "Source: AppleInsider" - 'nuff said.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 01:51

29. Edmund (Posts: 654; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


My niece just payed $300+ for an iphone 4, so yes, I'd believe it.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 03:28 1

30. boosook (Posts: 906; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


This might be true... the problem is that to retain the phone value Apple is forced to make only minor updates every year, otherwise the older models would be too different from the newest and would not retain their value. This has led to a situation where Apple is really behind its competitors. Iphone sports none of the innovation that the competitors put on their phones this year: no optical stabilizers, no large full hd screens, no stereo speakers, no always-on vocal commands, no smart notifications and so on. So in the end: you know it will retain its value, but is it worth to buy a phone that is now 1-2 years beyond the competitors just because when you'll sell it it will retain a higher value? what's more, the iphone is so expensive compared to competing android flagships that I can't see why you should be happy of the higher resale value when you paid the phone so much more in the first place.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 13:28

35. profperez1 (Posts: 48; Member since: 08 May 2012)


I have had great lucking selling iOS for high prices. Android and Window phones crash after 6 months. When I look to buy an iOS phones-----I stop----prices are VERY high.

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