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Verizon pushing out new data plans for Enhanced Multimedia Phones

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Verizon pushing out new data plans for Enhanced Multimedia Phones
Before you read this, please keep in mind that not all the information is released yet, and we are working hard to verify this with various sources.

We've been hearing over the past two days that not only will Verizon be launching the Samsung Rogue U960 and Intensity U450 on September 8th, but there will also be new data plans. These are strictly for "Enhanced Multimedia Phones" (not smartphones), which the Rogue will be the first one. What does this mean, you might ask? If you want to purchase the Rogue, it can only be activated on a Nationwide Plan (which is nothing new), but if that happens to be a Nationwide Basic or Select Plan, you will be required to also purchase one of two monthly data plans: 25MB for $9.99/month or 75MB for $19.99/month. This means the current $15 VCast Pack will no longer include Unlimited Data like it has. (We're hearing that VCast will be lowered to $10/month). However, if you activate the Rogue on a Nationwide Connect or Premium Plan, then you will not be forced to buy a data plan, since unlimited data is already included.

On the one hand we can understand why Verizon is doing this, because they are losing money on the $15 VCast pack with Unlimited Data (most likely because of tethering), but it also seems bad for the average consumer who will end up paying more each month for adding a data plan or having to go to Connect or Premium Plan.

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*UPDATE*
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Verizon pushing out new data plans for Enhanced Multimedia Phones
Verizon pushing out new data plans for Enhanced Multimedia Phones

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posted on 20 Oct 2010, 01:43

1. Snapdude (Posts: 128; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)


Your welcome Phonearena!

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 19:16

2. icu812 (Posts: 5; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)


COMPLETELY NOT TRUE! THE PRICING IS CORRECT BUT CUSTOMERS WILL NOT BE FORCED TO ADD ON A DATA FEATURE

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 19:36

4. 22ADin09 (Posts: 38; Member since: 24 Jul 2009)


completely true......

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 20:03

7. icu812 (Posts: 5; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)


EVERYONE CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANT.....THE EXACT PRICING ALONG WITH THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS WILL BE MADE OFFICIAL TO THE PUBLIC ON 8/31/2009. EVERYONE WILL SEE THE TRUTH THEN. TO THOSE FOLKS WHO ALREADY HAVE THE $15 UNLIMITED VPAK PLAN WILL GET TO KEEP IT UNLESS UPGRADING TO A NEWER PHONE.

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 20:27

9. EraserXIV (Posts: 37; Member since: 16 Jul 2009)


i sure hope you're right

posted on 28 Aug 2009, 12:50

26. holby26 (Posts: 9; Member since: 29 Dec 2008)


yeah it is just like when the data plan became required for pdas. Not really a big deal. To my understanding it is not required.

posted on 28 Aug 2009, 15:41

28. MadProfessor (Posts: 18; Member since: 12 Jun 2009)


Stop yelling, please.

posted on 29 Aug 2009, 15:12

36. BrokenImaege (Posts: 173; Member since: 27 Jul 2009)


You are incorrect. They will be per our infomanager. I work for Verizon. It has to be activated on newer phones that will be coming out. Not all phones will need it but higher end models will. Connect or premium plans are the way to go realisticly.

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 19:35

3. LGVX1993 (Posts: 260; Member since: 27 Jan 2009)


This really sucks if this is the whole story.

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 19:50

5. DonLouie (Posts: 594; Member since: 22 Dec 2008)


This makes Sprint's Everything plans look that much better, typical vzw

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 20:46

11. Kiltlifter (Posts: 742; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)


the sprint everything plan still doesn't matter... if it did, everyone would be on sprint, rather than sprint continuing to lose 1/4 million subs every 3 months. People will pay for what they want... and it is obvious that they want AT&T or VZW, T-Mo, Alltel (who still gets more subs that Sprint each quarter, despite not existing as a company anymore), and even Cricket get more.... Sprint is losing people... who cares about anything sprint does. Obviously not the American Consumer, or they would actually net adds instead of losses.

posted on 28 Aug 2009, 07:34

20. spunks74 (Posts: 4; Member since: 06 Aug 2009)


I'm actually a very happy sprint user. And before you go spouting off about how nobdy cares about sprint, there are 48.8 million sprint subscribers left. Sprint's "Everything" plans are the best out there, providing that you (and your whole family if you have a family plan) want every feature on your phone to work and you dont to be nickeled and dimed to death. Because verizon and att are gaining customers, they are able to do things like these absurd data plan rates, which are designed to extract lots of cash and provide very little in service. These are by far the worse data plans you could possible get on, because users will feel they are covered and can VERY EASILY go over there limit and get charge PER megabyte. The smarter users will up there plans to the unlimited plans. Eitherway, verizon will now get a lot more money for the same service they were providing either by users not using much data, users going over there limit, or users upgrading there plan to avoid overcharges.

posted on 28 Aug 2009, 13:02

27. holby26 (Posts: 9; Member since: 29 Dec 2008)


actually both verizon and att are dumping tons of money into their networks. That is why your seeing the prices. I would expect for att to follow suit soon as well. Sprint has had WiMax for so long and it still is only available in a few markets? Att is back hauling and increasing its capacity and speed with hspda plus(or whatever they call it) and verizon will be rolling out LTE soon. By the way the connect plan is 10 bucks more for a single line on top of the select plan and gets you unlimited data. Even if you were only using the 10 txt package and the 15 vcast, then the move is 5 bucks more. Yeah kinda sucks but it isnt earth shattering. I would imagine it has to also deal with the fact that apps will become more and more abundant for those devices.

posted on 29 Aug 2009, 13:08

32. PapaJay224 (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 Feb 2009)


"Get The Network Facts Did you know that we've invested more than $50 billion in our network since Verizon Wireless was formed in 2000? That's an average of $5.5 billion each year! Learn more about this investment and get the facts about our largest and most reliable network." This was emailed internally to me this morning. And the data plan is not so bad from my end when you have customer buying phones "they want" and ones they cant afford monthly...If you cant afford the Data DONT USE IT!!!! Buy a RaZR or Something basic...If you want to look cool to your freinds be prepared to pay for it, since when in our entire existance did popularity ever come for FREE? NEVER!

posted on 29 Aug 2009, 15:23

37. holby26 (Posts: 9; Member since: 29 Dec 2008)


my only question is why you would recommend a Razr.... ever.. and also they have been EOL for a long time now.

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 20:00

6. liberty5jeep (Posts: 3; Member since: 21 May 2009)


I got the enVtouch when it first came out in June and I've had the vcast vPak, can I still keep the $15.00/month vcast??

posted on 28 Aug 2009, 08:11

21. Knightlyjay (Posts: 6; Member since: 13 Jul 2009)


Yes. The Env Touch is not an enhanced multimedia phone in the current class of devices.

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 20:26

8. vzw fanman (Posts: 1972; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)


well it's cool there will be flash support and multi-page browsing.

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 20:43

10. Kiltlifter (Posts: 742; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)


Who cares about heresay on this. I will wait and see what is actually announced.... the connect plan is the way to go BTW... only 10.00 to your select plan and includes unlim data and their 5.00/month mobile email plan... who cares about Vcast at 15.00, and if you want mobile email it is still 5.00 extra.

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 21:08

12. dmoney09 (Posts: 5; Member since: 23 Aug 2009)


This isnt true i talked to a vzw rep and they said they wont push or forca anybody to get a plan with a phone because 1.they arent happy unless you are.. thats there motto.. they said they wont do it...

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 22:01

13. willieg3 (Posts: 24; Member since: 29 Jan 2009)


good call. retracted.

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 22:33

15. tofast30 (Posts: 16; Member since: 21 Nov 2008)


who ever you are you should not be sharing information about were you work. I think some people look at these sites and you could get in trouble.

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 23:35

17. plyfulgentleman (Posts: 43; Member since: 17 Jul 2008)


As a former VZW emp. I can a test to the up and coming changes in data charges..In 2005 when VCast 1st came out no one AND I mean no one wanted vcast. Why? Simply put social networking and HTML capable phones. Smart phones and HTML capable phones burn through data like a large person in a buffet hence the premium(extra/per megabyte charge) does it suck..Hell yes it does!! Believe me when i say that VZW knows what their doing and doing it well. But i will agree (and pls. no need to educate me on this) that smart phones and HTML phones are different but still consume data spectrum nonetheless. Of course most reps and store managers wont know for certain but only phone geeks like ourselves will know. after all its only business and money VZW is after.

posted on 28 Aug 2009, 16:03

30. holby26 (Posts: 9; Member since: 29 Dec 2008)


and the boogeyman will get you. Also no premarital sex or underage drinking.

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 22:09

14. rehnhart (Posts: 103; Member since: 27 Mar 2009)


If this is true... goodbye Verzion and hello Iphone. If they make me pay more for 75mb's I would rater get a smartphone and plan. Since nothing on VZW is as good as an Iphone in my opinion, I would rather go to AT&T.

posted on 27 Aug 2009, 23:23

16. xmguy (Posts: 38; Member since: 12 Feb 2009)


In my case going to the PDA Samsung Omnia will be my best bet. I'll only spend $15 more per month vs. $25 for the Connect plan. Even though the price difference will only be $10 MORE (when added to my $10 Texting and $15 Vpak). It's always a penny here a penny there.

posted on 28 Aug 2009, 00:05

18. Mr.Bozodic (Posts: 13; Member since: 30 Mar 2009)


Yea internet on VZW is a joke. Phones like the Env touch are already at a disadvantage when it comes to viewing web pages. Most of them show up as just text and no pictures. VZW willl eventually get rid of unlimited data for everything. They are getting way to greedy.

posted on 28 Aug 2009, 08:36

23. xmguy (Posts: 38; Member since: 12 Feb 2009)


That is why I PLAN to move to a PDA phone. But I still like to use my legacy phones too.

posted on 28 Aug 2009, 16:09

31. dirtjenkins (Posts: 12; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Wow! You're extremely misinformed when it comes to web capabilities on dumbphones. I'm glad I don't come to you for any of my wireless questions.

posted on 28 Aug 2009, 07:03

19. spunks74 (Posts: 4; Member since: 06 Aug 2009)


Lets see. $30 for 5000MB for a smartphone data plan and $20 for 75MB for a feature phone data plan. Anybody else see some sort of rapage here for feature phone users? (or "advanced multimedia phone""). You can easily burn through 75mb in a day if watch a lot of youtube vids, so anybody who is inclined to watch video not on the vcast service will get a hugh overage bill if they arent aware. I'm not even sure if 75MB is enough for light web browsing for a month (is their 10MB plan enough to check the weather or email everyday for a month?). I myself have burned through 3.5GB (3500MB) of data a month on my touch diamond just watching vids and browsing for about 2 hours a day (5 days a week). So, if you cant upgrade the plan to a connect plan that has unlimited data, go for a smart phone instead.

posted on 28 Aug 2009, 08:38

24. xmguy (Posts: 38; Member since: 12 Feb 2009)


Exactly. Upgrade to a PDA phone because (for now) the unlimited data plan is $29.99. I use atleast 2+ GBs in a month on my Dare streaming music at 192 Kbps and internet radio.

posted on 28 Aug 2009, 08:17

22. Knightlyjay (Posts: 6; Member since: 13 Jul 2009)


I think one thing that keeps getting overlooked in the features about this when discussing the premimum and connect plans is the unlimited texting feature being included. The comparison that PhoneArena uses from Basic plan to Connect and Premium is unfair. A person getting the Connect plan would be spending $30 more than a person getting the Basic (Single line), but only $10 more than a person getting a Select plan which includes unlimited texting. Most folks that get a phone and that are going to want data will want the texting feature added to it as well. Please remember that the differences will be about 10$ for most customers of these phones. And if they have a discount (military, state, employer), the difference will be less.

posted on 28 Aug 2009, 11:35

25. cheech4 (Posts: 9; Member since: 29 Dec 2008)


just another way for Big Red to nickle and dime there customers again, IMO. nothing new here.

posted on 28 Aug 2009, 15:50

29. DonLouie (Posts: 594; Member since: 22 Dec 2008)


I say vote with your wallet, they want you to pay $70 for the privilege of a phone. Spend that same amount or less with a discount

posted on 29 Aug 2009, 13:12

33. PapaJay224 (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 Feb 2009)


"Get The Network Facts Did you know that we've invested more than $50 billion in our network since Verizon Wireless was formed in 2000? That's an average of $5.5 billion each year! Learn more about this investment and get the facts about our largest and most reliable network." This was emailed internally to me this morning. And the data plan is not so bad from my end when you have customer buying phones "they want" and ones they cant afford monthly...If you cant afford the Data DONT USE IT!!!! Buy a RaZR or Something basic...If you want to look cool to your freinds be prepared to pay for it, since when in our entire existance did popularity ever come for FREE? NEVER!

posted on 29 Aug 2009, 14:43

34. trentsinmypants (Posts: 313; Member since: 29 Jan 2009)


Wow, I work for VZW and this is news to me.....time to start calling people to ask questions!

posted on 29 Aug 2009, 14:57

35. PapaJay224 (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 Feb 2009)


IS NO ONE READING THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAY'S THAT THIS IS A PRICING INITIATIVE FOR VERIZON CUSTOMERS, ARE YOU ALL SO BLINDED BY HOW POOR YOUR ARE TO EVEN READ THROUGH A WHOLE ARTICLE TO SEE THAT VERIZON IS TRYING TO MAKE IT AFFORDABLE FOR ALL YOU POPULARITY JUNKIES WHO WANT ADVANCED PHONES WITH OUT ADVIANCED PRICES? IM SICK OF ALL YOU "SHEEP"...ALL YOU DO IS BAA BAA BAA, AND YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU EVEN CRYING ABOUT....A BUNCH OF STUPID SHEEP.... COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN.

posted on 31 Aug 2009, 22:40

48. mkl4466 (Posts: 53; Member since: 25 Sep 2008)


Papa, get real. We have to remember the first rule of business: Make money. Thats why Verizon and all the other wireless carriers are here. Their goal is to get as much money out of our wallets every month as they can possibly squeeze out of us. They justify it by saying they are providing us with a service. Of course it says in the promo material that these new plans are good for consumers. Do you expect them to come out and say "These new plans will force customers to give us more money"? They can't say it out loud. But thats the bottom line. Its nicer to convince people of something, but if you can't convince them to agree with you, force them instead.

posted on 29 Aug 2009, 16:59

38. DonLouie (Posts: 594; Member since: 22 Dec 2008)


Raising the price to own a phone makes it affordable? Papa is the sheep using the company's money spent to justify raising prices but all you employees and fans are always talking about how vzw is always "in the black" so there should be no need to put any improvement cost on the customer. Rationalize it all you want it doesn't add up, a 450 minute Select plan w/the old $15 VCast is cheaper than Connect and even if you add nav it's still less costly than Premium. Sprint and T Mobile still save more money while bringing in less subs and money but you don't see them raising prices and all that yelling wasn't necessary

posted on 30 Aug 2009, 12:58

42. PapaJay224 (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 Feb 2009)


Um no its not its 10 extra dollars for connect off the slect plan 69.99 for 450 min connect, or you can have 59.99 slect and vcast for 15 which is what? You dumb...nevermind, your right 75.00 is cheaper than 69.99, including Mobile email and unlimited MB's is defenatly more expensive than 15$ Vcast which is only MB and Videos/Music. If you ask me I think Vcast is overated I dont justify that cost because Im honest, it has nothing to do with who I work for, I wasnt stuck in a room a brained washed, but working for this cuompany I have to research all the other providers, and we arent doing anything wrong...We are making it more affordable to own a PHONE THAT HAS DATA, IF YOU DONT WANT THAT F***ING PHONE DONT F***ING BUY IT, WHY EVEN TOUCH IT IF YOU CANT AFFORD IT?

posted on 30 Aug 2009, 01:47

39. mmmpopfanatic (Posts: 5; Member since: 29 Aug 2009)


It seems like the changes in data plans will be better for some people while others are getting screwed. Anyone on an individual select plan is only gonna be paying $10 more per month for data, which is actually better than the $15 for the vpak. Unfortunately, if you're on the basic plan or a family plan with several lines, it's going to be much more. I'm on a 4 line family select plan, and to upgrade to the connect will be another $40, which I'm gonna have to pay for myself since my parents and brother probably have no use for it. Needless to say, paying $40 instead of $15 is NOT something I'm happy about. HOWEVER (and DON'T quote me on this cuz it's not certain), I talked to a friend who works for Verizon, and he said that if I was already had Vpak that I should be grandfathered into it and wouldn't be affected by such changes. Though keep in mind he had no knowledge of these new changes. If you read the links in the article under the 'Refreshed Vcast Features', it does specifically say that the Vpak would be grandfathered, but most likely is just refering to existing phones, not for when a new phone like the rogue will be activated. I called verizon yesterday and had them add the vpak to my current phone, just in case my friend ends up being right. Worst case, I waste $15 by having it for an extra month.

posted on 30 Aug 2009, 13:08

44. PapaJay224 (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 Feb 2009)


You only will require to have a data plan on phones RELEASED AFTER A CERTAIN DATE THAT SPECIFY THE REQUIREMENT... This is why everyone hates Verizon, your all so quik to judge but no one actually understands, and you have to leave it to us rougue reps who are fotunate enough to pop in here and correct the wrongs so people understand....CALL YOUR PROVIDER OR STOP READING PROPAGANDA!

posted on 31 Aug 2009, 22:39

47. mkl4466 (Posts: 53; Member since: 25 Sep 2008)


On a connect family plan the primary line pays $10 more than it would on a select plan, and gets unlimited web and mobile email. The secondary lines can either be considered "select secondary" for 9.99 per month, or "connect secondary" for 19.99 per month. This way all the secondary lines can choose to either have data or not. So if your parents make your line the primary line you can be a connect line for $10, vs. having Vcast for $15. You won't get the video clips, but if your phone has flash support you can watch youtube, or hopefully HULU, if its real flash, so who needs Vcast video anyway. and connect includes mobile email. And if you REALLY want Vcast video clips instead of watching youtube, Verizon will sell you a $10/month video on demand feature. The only problem with these kinds of plans is they pretty much assume that anyone who wants unlimited web ALSO wants unlimited text. For most customers thats true, but not all. Some people, especially older folks who are computer savvy and want a web capable device, might like an option for web without having to pay for unlimited text. Tmobile and ATT both have that. The only options for unlimited web on one of these "enhanced multimedia" phones are through a connect or premium plan, which includes unlimited text. If you have a basic plan, and you add a data option, its not unlimited web. Verizon doesn't like to give you unlimited data, because they are afraid of people actually using it too much and taking up too much spectrum. Thats why the aircards changed a while back from unlimited to 5 GBs. I don't really see the value in a 19.99 feature with only 75 MB. thats just a plan to get you to switch up to the connect plan after your next bill is ridiculously high from overage, like the 39.99 aircard plan. They only have that because some people will buy at a lower rate because they are cheapskates and don't think they should have to have a higher plan, but then after one month they see the overage so they switch to the plan they should have gotten in the first place. Its bait and switch tactic. It seems to me Verizon is forcing these plans because 1. they want to increase their average revenue per user, and 2. with their plans already the most expensive in wireless, the only way to get people to spend more money each month than they already do is to force them to add a feature plan in order to use the cool new phones. Verizon knows that customers don't come in asking for data, they come in asking for cool phones. People don't want to pay for data, and most people that really use data and are willing to pay for it don't want to use an "enhanced multimedia" phone. They use a blackberry or a palm or a windows mobile device. Enhanced multimedia phones and data features exist because everyone cancels their vcast after the free month is over and then they see it on the bill and call in and complain. So if you make it a requirement, people can't cancel it. Tmobile is now doing the same thing with REQ codes on their features, so customers can't get a discount on a new phone contingent upon adding a feature then call in and cancel the feature.

posted on 30 Aug 2009, 09:51

40. DonLouie (Posts: 594; Member since: 22 Dec 2008)


That $10 versus $15 is only giving 25mb of data, according to what's posted the two ways to get unlimited are either a Connect or Premium plan. Verizon is not using any lube

posted on 30 Aug 2009, 11:08

41. mmmpopfanatic (Posts: 5; Member since: 29 Aug 2009)


The connect plan is what I'm referring to that would be $10 more for certain people.

posted on 30 Aug 2009, 13:04

43. PapaJay224 (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 Feb 2009)


Don your a suck an idiot, I seriously think you come in and post stuff just to piss people off. Would you buy a Ferrari just because you had $100,000? NO! because if it breaks you cant afford the parts to fix it, It costs 2500 dollars just to pay someone to replace the battery, can you imagine replaceing the cost of an oil change or a tune up? Just because you can afford the cost of the product doesnt mean you can afford the cost to maintain it, these are advanced devices and are advertised that way, How can you hate the provider for making a phone for people who can afford it? Are you going to get mad at everyone that doesnt make something the way you want? If you want a phone w/ out data cost, we have that for you..But if you want an advanced phone (Ferrari) you are told upfront the cost associated with that device...Dont be mad at the people setting the bar, be mad at the fact your not tall enough to reach it.

posted on 30 Aug 2009, 13:59

45. DonLouie (Posts: 594; Member since: 22 Dec 2008)


You can't be serious, comparing a phone to a car? While I will admit fault on pricing, silly me to think serial gouger vzw would only charge $10 extra for the bundle, that still doesn't justify what's happening. Papa, you keep skipping over the fact that unlimited data is only on the Connect and Premium plans and just because VCast wasn't for you means that is how it applies to all. Sprint has a messaging plan $10 cheaper than vzw and thier data plan is still $15 and you can use that on any phone besides the Instincts, RIM's and Pre, I'm really anxious to see how vzw subs that waited on the Pre are going to feel when they realize how the bill will increase

posted on 30 Aug 2009, 21:52

46. DonLouie (Posts: 594; Member since: 22 Dec 2008)


Papa, you said everyone doesn't need all the add ons in the other story about the new phones, you do realize you have 3 options for UNLIMITED data with Sprint. There's a $15 Basic with some tv and radio, $25 Data Premier with lots of tv/radio and nav which brings me to the Everything plans. All those plans have UNLIMITED data and still trump anything compared to vzw and there are only three phones that have a mandatory plan that is still cheaper.

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