Samsung allegedly bringing Android 4.4 KitKat update to Note 2, Galaxy S3/S3 mini, Galaxy S4 Active/Zoom, and other
1. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
What about the S4 Mini, Core, Core Plus, Core Advance, Trend, Trend Plus, Trend Lite, Young, Fame, Y Neo, Grand, Grand Quattro, Grand 2?
That's what you get for flooding the market with your phones, Samsung. But kudos to Samsung for updating many of their phones to KitKat.
2. tech2 (Posts: 3143; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
'That's what you get for flooding the market with your phones......' Get what ? 9.5 Billion quarterly profit ?
Except flagships non of the OEM bother with updating their flagships and Samsung is no exception. Simply blaming everything on no. of devices they release is nativity.
3. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
"That's what you get for flooding the market with your phones..."
What I meant by that is that Samsung needs to update a whole bunch more of their phones to KitKat which is not good. That's what I meant. You seriously think that Samsung will update all of their low and mid end phones (comment #1) to KitKat? I don't think so, sir.
You sir, need to calm down and sit your butt down.
5. tiara6918 (Posts: 1949; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
+! I get your point xperiadroid. But come to think of it only samsung gives updates to the rest of their line up while htc, sony, lg and others gives out updates to a few selected models compared to the much wider products samsung offers
14. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
+1 I get your point too and you're right. But what I meant is that Samsung needs to update a whole bunch more of their phones to KitKat which is not good, because the owners of those low and mid end phones need to wait longer for the update to come, and some of those phones may not be updated too. It will make the owners frustrate and ask Samsung where's the update.
That's what I meant. I don't know why Smurf and tech2 are so sensitive of what I said.
31. Topcat488 (Posts: 1348; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
Since when do OEM's keep updating midrange and low end phones you TROLL. Look at the S3, how old it is, it's still ahead of those new Sony Xperia phones. If anyone needs to "calm down", it's YOU! Samsung is #1 in updating their flagships... You're #1 in seeking "Green Thumbs".
40. Lboogey6 (Posts: 274; Member since: 31 Jan 2012)
I would say they have a lot of models but there isn't a dire need upgrade on certain devices now that Android is becoming more stable and clean like it was going from the older models when you were looking forward to an update because it was lacking something
6. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10226; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Tell that to LG, Sony and HTC. Stop being a blind hater. Those devices alone cover over 50 million people, so quit the whining.
8. tech2 (Posts: 3143; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
That's exactly my point !
Its not just Samsung all other OEMs fail to provide updates to mid-low range even if they release less devices a year. So the problem can't be attributed to Samsung for releasing so many devices.
10. VZWuser76 (Posts: 3073; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Moto is doing pretty good. The Moto G and the Droid Mini aren't flagships and they're getting KK. Don't know about the RAZR M, but they probably will if the RAZR HD & Maxx HD do.
32. Topcat488 (Posts: 1348; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
Ok, Ok lets see if those Moto G's keep getting special updates after "Lenovo" starts running the show. Think about what you said, and why those phone got updates.
41. VZWuser76 (Posts: 3073; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Well, for one thing, by the time the deal actually closes, the Moto G and those other phones will probably be EOL. Probably the easiest way to tell is what support will be like is how many of the current crew stays there. But the same could be true for ANY company if they get bought out. The new owners could radically change any companies direction, or split them up and sell them off. As far as Lenovo goes, I don't know and more importantly, neither do you. My post had facts, yours had speculations.
43. Topcat488 (Posts: 1348; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
First of all YOU are talking about 2 phones that are not even 1/2 year old... Which ARE Moto's Flagships even if they're cheap Flagship devices... Any phone not even 6 months old from the owner of the OS is ridiculous to include. Your inclusion of these phones was ridiculous and that's a fact.
48. VZWuser76 (Posts: 3073; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
The age makes no difference. The person I was originally responding to said no OEM was updating anything beyond their flagship line. He didn't say midrange devices more than a year old. And the Moto G, a flagship? It's running a SD400, and selling new for $100 at Verizon on their prepaid. It may be a flagship prepaid device but that's about it. Every story on the Droid Mini and RAZR M have them listed as midrange phones. And as I recall, Motorola was one of the first after the Nexus line to get their RAZR HD series on JB last year. Granted it wasn't as fast as this year, but the whole industry is that way. And that was before the Google acquisition went through.
I can't say where Motorola is headed in the future. Lenovo and Moto probably don't even fully know that yet. So to say with certainty what will happen to them is what's ridiculous.
12. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Sony updated many of their devices to 4.3 and will continue with 4.4. LG is investigating 4.4 update for many of their phones as well. Even though HTC didn't update many of their devices to 4.3 and 4.4, but they're improving themselves.
So, get your facts right instead of being such a Sony hater that thinks he knows everything looking for an argument most of the times.
20. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10226; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Sony is only updating the Z series lol. LG is only going to push for the G2 and possibly G Pro. HTC only has DNA/Butterfly and One to update. Samsung? ~7-8+ devices.
So, get your facts right instead of being such a Samsung hater that thinks he knows everything looking for an argument most of the time.
25. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
"Sony is only updating the Z series lol."
Wrong. Sony will update SP, T, TX, V to 4.3 first, then others like L, M, C will follow. 4.4 will possibly be the same. So, I don't see what you mean by that. Get your facts right.
"LG is only going to push for the G2 and possibly G Pro."
Yes, the international G2 will recieve 4.4 soon. But LG is also still investigating 4.4 update for many of their phones. Get your facts right.
"HTC only has DNA/Butterfly and One to update."
Yes, you're right. But hey, at least they're better than last time.
"Samsung? ~7-8+ devices."
Yes, you're right. But low and mid end phones will take long to receive the update.
"So, get your facts right instead of being such a Samsung hater that thinks he knows everything looking for an argument most of the time."
Nice converting, but I'm not a Samsung hater. So, get your facts right. Yes, I admit I was a Samsung hater, but now I'm not. :)
34. Topcat488 (Posts: 1348; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
Words like "will update" SP, T, TX, V and will possibly be the same are not FACTS... Sony simply is NOT known for updating their phones... You admitted to being a Samsung "Hater" and say you're not now, is NOT believable... You say a lot, when the day is long.
35. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
I don't give a s**t about you believe it or not, all I want to say now is that I admit I was a Samsung hater, but now I don't hate Samsung anymore. Enough said.
45. Topcat488 (Posts: 1348; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
I could care more about a rats a$$. You're still not believable... I'm sure Samsung don't give a s**t either if you hate them or not.
9. tech2 (Posts: 3143; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Did you even read what I just said ?!
Let me dumb it down for a 11 year old. LG, Sony and HTC release fewer devices a year. Do they still update those low & mid range phones ? No ! So your reasoning of Samsung releasing so many devices is not the guilty factor here.
Its the low & mid range devices itself. Because of their narrow margins company find it difficult to invest in R&D for their updates.
11. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Yes, we did. Everyone did. It's because your comments makes people feel like you're a kid angry over a freaking toy.
17. tech2 (Posts: 3143; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Wow.... Nice way of circumventing the point. Personal insult is all you've left since you're too hollow to reply my comment.
18. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
LOL...you're too funny. I can't see any "personal insult" on my comment you're talking about, in fact, calling someone's age IS a personal insult. If what I said in comment #11 makes you think as a personal insult, then you should go take a nap and think what you just said and what is personal insult.
I feel like I'm talking to a cow that don't understand what I'm saying.
21. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10226; Member since: 14 May 2012)
"I feel like I'm talking to a cow that don't understand what I'm saying."
I'm sure majority of the users on PA feel the same way about you. Anything that isn't pro Sony or Nokia goes through one ear and out the other. Example? Comment #12.
24. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
If you don't understand what I'm saying, then you won't reply to me now. I'm pretty sure majority of the users on PA understand what I'm saying, if they don't, I will be ignored, and if I'm ignored by everyone here, I won't be visiting PA till now. So, your point is invalid.
51. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10226; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Comment #11, 12 and 25 show how mature you are. Just stop while you're ahead. You're making things worse for yourself the more you reply to people lol.
27. tech2 (Posts: 3143; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Leave it, bro ! Its like bangin ur head against a Nokia 3310.
Samsung are probably the only one who are updating their non-flagship 2012 devices with Kitkat and still some people find a reason to complain.
42. cripton805 (Posts: 1220; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
I agree with Smurf on this one. It's obvious Samsung has now been the one with the best updates and probably Sony last even worse than HTC. That isn't counting the no name chineese phones.
36. Sonny_09 (Posts: 49; Member since: 24 May 2013)
To be honest, it's still better than Sony, significantly evident with its 2012 flagships Xperia S and , which still stuck at Jelly Bean 4.1. So much so for their promise.
39. ihavenoname (Posts: 1670; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)
S4 Mini should be on the list, actually it's confirmed that it will get it. Others you listed probably won't get it, which is shame, especially Trend Plus should get it because then it would be better rival for Lumia 520.
55. Tech_Junkie1996 (Posts: 43; Member since: 29 Aug 2013)
While everyone is arguing, I would like to point out that Google is sort of requiring that most OEMs have phones on 4.4 within the first quarter of 2014. They also are requiring that after the first quarter, all new Android phones will have to be on the current platform, in this case KitKat. This is why Samsung is releasing so many updates. Think about it, this time last year, if you had a midrange from, especially from Samsung, you didn't receive an update. They were laughing stock of the mobile industry. Now, and from this point o n this will only be conjecture, I think that Samsung is doing so many updates because it has so many devices. They have to start before everyone because they have more to handle.
56. kabhijeet.16 (Posts: 772; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
Considering so many devices, Samsung is great that it provides updates to so many devices...
Compared to Sony, LG, HTC which have very few devices, Samsung does a great job in case of Updates. no doubts about it....
4. tiara6918 (Posts: 1949; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
Samsung is the best oem when it comes to updates keep it up!
52. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
At least they didn't rush out with 4.4 kitkat they probably want too wait till the GS5 announce with new features and updates then roll out too other GALAXY DEVICE.
7. hmd74 (Posts: 475; Member since: 31 Jan 2013)
I don't like Samsung devices.. But i Love their support! :)
Shame on Sony , HTC and LG
13. XperiaOptimusOne (unregistered)
Include the Magazine UX why don't you?
15. mr.techdude (Posts: 569; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
S3 and s3 mini getting the update, WHAT!!!!!! HTC isn't updating the HTC one x/x+, I know it's that thing they removed on the tegra chips but Srsly not even an effort
37. true1984 (Posts: 731; Member since: 23 May 2012)
that's an issue with the tegra processor, not htc
57. kabhijeet.16 (Posts: 772; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
That issue with tegra is also the fault of HTC...
53. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
Because HTC are bunch of lazy/greedy fools. they want u to buy the HTC ONE their current flagship which is why i never buy their phones due too slow updates.
16. rex1213 (Posts: 77; Member since: 29 Jul 2011)
My goodness Samsung.. Where again is the update for the Galaxy Note 10.1 (2012)?
22. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10226; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Don't be quick to hate. Samsung is still evaluating which devices are getting updated or not.
28. joey_sfb (Posts: 4759; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
For Samsung device just buy their high end best selling model.
44. cripton805 (Posts: 1220; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
Their S3 is considered Mid range by todays standards. So is the Mega. It just has a massive screen.
23. 1701nino (unregistered)
Woow this is incredible,i used to hate on samsung,if this is true people who want software support on their devices should definetly buy a samsung phone.Because everybody can make a good device but not everyone will stand upon it for at least 2 years.(sony,htc,lg)
58. kabhijeet.16 (Posts: 772; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
My S2 got Jelly bean update after 2.5 years of launching the device...
Great Samsung.. I wish I could get Kitkat also (im being greedy), but I know it highly improbable. No issues.. Jelly bean 4.1.2 was more than enough for a 2.5 years old device..
30. Lycan155 (Posts: 174; Member since: 24 Nov 2013)
Ahh :/ my note 10.1 is still stuck on 4.1 ....
38. tokuzumi (Posts: 728; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)
If this rumor is true, this is good for Samsung. But, most likely the update will only be for the international variants. The US carrier branded versions will be lucky to ever officially get it. Case in point; the Verizon Galaxy Nexus is still on 4.2.2.
46. DnB925Art (Posts: 749; Member since: 23 May 2013)
If there is one thing about copying Apple, at least copy their model of updating phones for a while after they are released, which Sammy has been doing lately (at least with the flagship models).
47. PorkyBurger (Posts: 585; Member since: 18 May 2013)
Well, if you, guys, would actually go to PHANDROID's website and look at that article, you would see, that KitKat is for AT&T models only, for now. Just saying.
54. Tech_Junkie1996 (Posts: 43; Member since: 29 Aug 2013)
So, with the Tab 7, is it going to include the WiFi version? Because, the cellular version came out with 4.2.2, as did the Lite. But the original version, the WiFi, hasn't gotten any love. I hope Samsung decides to update this version, because the lower RAM needed on 4.4 would be extremely useful on a device with only 1 GB and Samsung's Touchwiz.