Just published video by Apple shows that the Nokia N97 mini loses signal too

7. NOVAinc posted on 21 Jul 2010, 12:00 0 0

Actually... the iPhone 4 statistically drops 1 extra call for each 100 calls dropped by a 3Gs phone. AT&T surely doesn't help, but the strength decreases if the bars decrease. iPhone 4 will drop a call if your zone has a poor reception, just as it would happen with anyother phone, if you live in a decent coverage zone the phone won't drop it, since holding it TIGHT will cause an attenuation by 20db aprox, which is not enough to drop anything. Videos in youtube? that's the people who live in weak zones.

12. jacky_luvsjrod posted on 21 Jul 2010, 13:13 0 0

i agree the iphone 4 drops calls even with 5 bars of service i know this cuz i have one but its only the iphone that has problems on at&t network, i know at&t is not the best network out there but every other phone on at&t works fine we are on a family plan and my mom with the bold9700 from at&t sometimes gets very low signal inside some buildings like in macys her bold only gets 1 bar of service that really small bar that u can berly see it and shes still able to talk with out a problem shes can make calls n send text messages fine without a problem with that 1 bar of service and it doesnt disconnect the call it stays connected n shes able to talk for a long time and on my iphone 4 when i have 1 bar of service its impossible for me to call i keep getting call failed and i dont understand why calls go tru with the bold even on places with low signal and on the iphone 4 they dont if they are both running on at&t...

29. roscuthiii posted on 21 Jul 2010, 20:06 0 0

Ahem... Novainc... 1 extra in 100 over the 3Gs doesn't sound like a lot until you take into account that in the U.S. the average number of dropped calls is only about 1.5 in 100 calls. I'm not sure what the 3Gs' ratio of dropped calls is but if it's the 1.5 average then that would put the iP4 at about 2.5 calls dropped per 100. That's still almost doubling the number of dropped calls. Now, if the 3gS's ratio is something akin to 15 calls dropped per 100, then yes, I guess 16 out of 100 really isnt that bad. Food for thought. I've had a Droid Eris on Verizon for 6 months and never dropped one call (I'm also left-handed) and don't live in an area with all that great a signal. That's not going by bars, that going by -95 dB on average.

33. NOVAinc posted on 21 Jul 2010, 21:10 0 0

no no boy, this isn't 1 dropped call for EVERY 100 calls, this is less than 1 more dropped call for each 100 DROPPED calls of the 3Gs, that's less than the 1% more.

8. NOVAinc posted on 21 Jul 2010, 12:03 0 0

Yes, everybody else sucks, that's not reason for you to suck too, we already know that other phones suck, but the iPhone must be PERFECT, otherwise it sucks. Even if the technological limitations of the actuality don't make it possible to avoid the problem just FIX IT, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, FIX IT, otherwise your phone is crap. Love - Android fanboy.

9. NOVAinc posted on 21 Jul 2010, 12:14 0 0

Do you know how this works? If yes, SKIP THIS POST. If not then proceed to read. There's something you must understand, and I will tell you what it is but you need to open your mind and stop thinking "apple sucks" because you saw videos of special cases of people showing this. Look, the spectrum of db for your phone to work properly expands from the -55db to -113db. Holding the iPhone TIGHT will generate a loose of 20db aprox. If your phone receives strong signal from over -70db, it don't matter how hard you try, you WON'T be able to recreate the effect. The iPhone 4, on its first firmware used to show you 5 bars from -55 to -90db... so, it actually seems that the signal is stronger than it is fact is. If you lived in an area of -85/89db and you held your phone tight it would drop all the 5 bars because the signal drops 20db reaching almost the limit for a proper usage (1 bar). With the new FW the phone will show you the strength you actually are receiving, and now it's not possible to recreate the effect because the software issue was fixed. Nokia, BB, Motorola, HTC, etc do the same, they show you 5 bars even if your signal is weak, that's why you can still recreate signal loss of 2/3; 3/4 and so on when you use a non Apple phone. But this has to happen in a weak zone. Did you know that? if no... well, you know it now, and you can ask me anything you want. If yes, then why do you try to recreate this in a zone with good coverage? and why do you come here to trash a company without facts to back up your words? Those old videos in youtube are from people who lived in an area of under -80db of coverage, that's why they could do this. For everybody else, I just want you guys to know how it works, because usually they just make comments like these without even knowing how it works, and it makes me sick to see people doing that.

16. zerglisk posted on 21 Jul 2010, 15:31 0 0

@Omarc26, there is something called "punctuation"....

22. CommZod posted on 21 Jul 2010, 16:13 0 0

So basically your saying that Apple Originally tried to screw people into THINKING they had full bars when they really didn't. Then it backfired on them and they had to put things the way they should have been in the first place?

30. roscuthiii posted on 21 Jul 2010, 20:12 0 0

Everyone relaizes all of this Nova... do you realize that there is a difference between blocking a signal and short circuiting an exposed antenna ? Yes, yes we all also reaize that it's entirely fixable with a rubber. The point is that you shouldn't need to get one for a phone to work optimaly. A rubber that at first was ordered not to be given away for free at all. Of course that was after left handed users were blamed. Just wondering.

34. NOVAinc posted on 21 Jul 2010, 21:13 0 0

@CommZod: Yes, they did, SJ said it at the press conference and apologized. Now they delivered a new FW which solves this thing. All the rest of the companies still show the bars wrong.

36. YouLostTheGame posted on 21 Jul 2010, 22:38 0 0

Ha! You're too funny! What you're saying now, is that the almighty Steve Jobs has his phone working "correctly" while every other MAJOR phone manufacturer/OS developer, that have been making phones for YEARS before the iPhone, are all wrong?! Get over yourself and your iShit already.

38. NOVAinc posted on 21 Jul 2010, 22:55 0 0

Yes, that's why the iPhone changed everything, didn't you know it? All the actual OS's are based on user friendliness, a thing that nobody knew on a smartphone until the iPhone arrived... love it or hate it Besides, I didn't say "his" (he alone is not apple, you noob) phone worked properly and the others didn't. Read something before you claim anything. You know... the iPhone is the only phone right now to show the real signal, otherwise watch what happens when a blackberry looses the reception... it will take a whole minute to show it, and even in a weak area it will show you have perfect signal, but guess what? not...

39. Whateverman posted on 22 Jul 2010, 02:36 0 0

If the other manufacturers are showing incorrectly, explain why their calls don't drop. Many test have been done by unbiased publications and individual ATT customers. And all have said, when the iPhone drops a call, different phones in the same area at the same time don't drop the call. Why do you defend this company and this product, even when all the evidence shows that there is a problem?

43. NOVAinc posted on 22 Jul 2010, 10:30 0 0

I defend no company, I defend objectivity and truth. I would do it with any company not just apple. Let me tell you a thing about this evidence. If Engadget came up with a picture of both the EVO and the Nexus One side by side and said that the EVO had better quality materials, you'd probably laugh at it. But what if they showed a used Nexus One besides a new EVO... That's what we call yellowish and reality distortion. But what if they didn't mention that detail but you knew it? You would most probably try to explain it and tell what's really going on. As an advertiser, I am very familiar with people like this. Some sites will distort the reality in a way that does make sense but that still is wrong just to get more hits, they need the hits to have money. The bad of this is that all this "evidence" doesn't quite much match with the real facts but people usually just read what the blog says and adopt the words wrote on it. And some bloggers, mostly in well known blogs will distort this reality to get more money and will give a crap about the truth, even if they know all the influence they are to all their readers who will blindly follow their words. As long as they get hits, nothing else matters. That's why they flood the web with apple articles, because like it or not, right now that is the topic that people talk and care about. I'll go and continue practising with my guitar, and when I have more free time probably I will read the news (from real journalists), until then I'll take advantage of my time and will care about things that really matters. My question would be "why do some people insist on spending their time reading news about phones that they don't like, they don't own, and insult the people who has different opinions?"

45. thatdude1 posted on 22 Jul 2010, 14:57 0 0

Why don't you ask ilia1986 that question, novainc?

46. Whateverman posted on 22 Jul 2010, 15:15 0 0

A great example of objectivity is when someone has two different phones from the same company, showing different results and then reports those results to the people who love hearing and talking about gadgets. Thats why people come here and share their opinions about phones they like, do not like or own themselves. But that isn't what you are defending. It seems that you are defending Apple"s right to make a defective product. I just think they are better than this. But I'm still curious why you think the phones that keep a connection are the defective phones and the iP4 is the only one showing bars correctly when its the only one that drops calls.