Intel's Smartphone Reference Design is a solid base.
Intel goes mobile with Atom Z2460 and this time it's serious
1. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)
This has to be power efficient or we wont see a lot of them in the future..
2. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4793; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
To me Intel is very intriguing. They are the best in the desktop realm & if they can incorporate that success & implement it towards their mobile chipsets then watch out. Right now power consumption is an issue with their designs but once that is perfected they will indeed pose a very true threat to ARM. Motorola seems to have some faith in Intel, they are jumping ship with them & I really can't wait to see the fruits of their combined labor.
Intel DOES have an extremely bright future & ARM better bring their "A" game because I believe Intel is here to stay! Intel's jump in to this playground just assured us all one thing, innovation will be pushed to the limits & us the customers will have some VERY exciting products from both ARM & Intel in the very NEAR future.
5. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
thier knowledge is a double edged sword. what works in PC doesnt work in mobile. Its like hiring a new employee. Sometimes its better to start fresh then to hire a guy from the competitors. Why is that? Sometimes you have to untrain them from all their behaviors from company X so they can be retrained to company Y. There are a lot of ingrained ideas from the PC side that intel is no doubt wondering why they dont just automatically work on the mobile side.
Do they have the experience, money, and ability to succeed? absolutely. will they be able to break their old mentality and thought processes enough to succeed? we'll find out.
7. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4793; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Yeah but that can be applied to anything. Intel knows what they need to do. If they don't know that they have to remedy their power consumption in order to thrive in the mobile market, then they indeed deserve to lose. Everything in mobile comes back to one thing & one thing only, battery life!
They have ARM as a reference & should get lots of help from that aspect. It's not like ARM can reference Intel's prior work since Intel specializes in desktop machines.
Let me put it this way, Intel is really not that far behind the ball. Once they can incorporate 28nm or lower tech they should be able to figure out their power issues fairly quick. Motorola must have demo'ed Intel's stuff & liked it because I don't think they would have made Intel their choice for future products.
I respect Motorola's decision, they have been in the mobile game longer than Samsung, HTC, Apple & so on and so forth. I think they know what they are doing. This is Intel’s first foray into the mobile game, let’s see what they got.
8. Baseballer (Posts: 132; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
Did anyone see that one chip that could work with gesture based things and 3d and stuff like that? that chip in phones with a great battery life would be pretty sick
12. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4793; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Yeah I know, there is so much stuff coming out that it's going to be very hard to keep up.
I am with you, that would be pretty cool!
14. Baseballer (Posts: 132; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
yea! Im waiting for 2013 for those chips to be finally put into smartphones. The future is just beyond :D
10. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Its not their first. They tried to partner with Blackberry way back in the day and they failed miserably then.
interestingly, it points out that intel tried NFC style payment integration years ago. A bit ahead of its time in that regard... so props there.
The problem with any major corporation that has been at the top for a long period of time is that they get unwilling to take major risks, or they assume they always know best. Instead of learning from ARM like they should have, they are taking what they already know and trying to shoehorn it into the mobile space. That has been my issue all a long. x86 processors are going to have compatibility issues out the ying yang and create all sorts of problems for Android that it doesnt need. Why? Because Intel refuses to learn from the market leader and instead insists that it knows better.
Stop and ask your self... what actual benefit does intel bring to the table with its x86 mobile processors? processing power? not really.. battery life? nope.. compatibility? definitely not.. new features? Nope..
Then what is the point?
11. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4793; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
+1 for you, I didn't know Intel tried to jump into the mobile game with BlackBerry. Hopefully from that failure they have learned their lesson.
It would be VERY foolish if Intel makes the same mistake twice. I really think they have learned from their mistake because I really don't see them doing the same thing twice. (I could be totally wrong, but I am giving them the benefit of doubt.) Intel would lose all the credibility they have if the same mistake happened twice!
Until further evaluation, we don't know yet if they have learned from ARM or not. These chips have not made it to the consumer yet. Motorola seems to believe, so there might be some credibility there. I just need to see them in a real world situation to see how it exactly works. Lab testing isn't exactly real world so I am always skeptical, & not just with Intel but with all tech in general. Remember the Xbox 360’s Red Ring of Death, my brother & everyone I knew that got a Xbox 360 suffered, so I waited for the corrected model & I have never had to ship my Xbox 360 for that problem.
You may be right, or you may be wrong, but to say Intel doesn't bring anything to the table might be a little farfetched. ARM themselves say Intel is a STRONG competitor, they respect them so maybe ARM is admitting that Intel might be on to something. You never know. If anything at least it will brew competition, thus leading to innovation. So at the very least we all should agree on that. Remember it has to start somewhere.
13. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
it would be bad business for ARM to come out laughing and pointing at Intel... especially since Intel could just buy them if it so desired. :)
I never said they bring nothing to the table. In fact, ive been trying to shed light on the fact that they might be bringing too much. You can have all the tools in the world, but if u dont have the right ones, then they are useless.
Yes, im always happy about more competition. No doubt about that.
3. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
In 2013 perhaps we'll see true Intel Mobile chipset. So far they are making good progress.
4. McLTE (Posts: 804; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
This is only GOOD things in the cell phone wars.. if nothing else, Intel will push all the other manufacturers to continue to innovate!
I hope Intel succeeds here.. but what we really need is EFFICIENCY! I don't care so much anymore about numbers.. I'm not a power gamer and I don't care what my quadrant scores are. I want a smooth operating phone that LASTS.
So now I wonder... where is AMD???
6. DKMDROID (Posts: 103; Member since: 09 Aug 2011)
wouldnt this affect the making of custom roms? making it much harder for devs to port updates from early versions of new OS's eg if google had too release the next Nexus phone with an Intel chip?? as much as i love seeing good healthy competition in the mobile industry or am i worried for nothing??? although i am surpised at the power of what is a single core as compared to a dual core from a different company ,just makes me wonder how good a dual core or even quad core varient of Intel's chip would be......
9. wsker (Posts: 24; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)
Thats one single core, then, how about quad-core from Intel, gonna be such a beast..
15. thebikerboi2 (Posts: 144; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
I think intel have a tough year ahead of them, with the new PowerVR series 6, the Mali-t658 GPUS and the ARM Cortex-A15 in the pipeline.
17. jasongohjr (Posts: 75; Member since: 26 Sep 2011)
From the look of it and being that it's single core is faster than other dual core phones, I bet Intel will make huge changes to the mobile tech world. Cheers!
18. medcherifmoubiene (Posts: 1; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
coooooool i can wait to see this on some nokia phones
19. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
For actual apps, internet et cetera most mobile processors hold more than enough power. What is needed in my option is low energy consumption and powerful graphics. Also an "assist core" for simple tasks like the Tegra 3 offers would be an great option.
Sure Intel does great things, (as the Sandy Bridge processors) but they should really try hard, because in the mobile sector they are an outsider and i can do understand, why they are. The netbook processors (Atom) are pretty weak, loosing overall to AMD and being one of the reasons why netbooks could die.
With Cedar Trail and this thingies Intel should go serious and do something good, we all know they can.