Apple patent application hints at embedded TouchID, first step toward an edge-to-edge design

Apple patent application hints at embedded TouchID, first step toward an edge-to-edge design
Amid rumors that a big design change is in store for the 2017 iPhone as a way to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the handset, we could see something dramatic such as a bezel-less edge-to-edge display. A number of concepts have been designed showing such a design, and some fakes have also used it. Recent speculation has Apple embedding TouchID, the front-facing camera, and the speakers under the screen of a future model. Doing all that would make it easier for Apple to produce an iPhone with an edge-to-edge screen.

While this is all speculation for the moment, there actually is some proof that Apple is thinking about such a look for a future iPhone. A patent application originally filed on March 5th 2015, titled "Man-machine interface for controlling access to electronic devices," includes a method called "ultrasound imaging." Using this method would allow Apple to embed TouchID inside an iPhone screen.


According to Patently Apple, Apple has two other patents dealing with the placement of TouchID under the screen. And its June 2015 purchase of the fingerprint related IP from Privaris also points to Apple using this design in the not too distant future. Putting the fingerprint scanner under the screen doesn't guarantee that Apple will go with the edge-to-edge look, but it does remove one of the major obstacles in its way.


source: USPTO via PatentlyApple, 9to5Mac

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38 Comments

1. Zylam

Posts: 1813; Member since: Oct 20, 2010

Sweet, about time! Now htc just needs to kill it with the New Nexi and I can't wait for a powerful Nexus 7 refresh.

2. legiloca

Posts: 1676; Member since: Nov 11, 2014

Finally no more fingerprint scanner *clap clap*

4. Kumar123 unregistered

Amazing.

5. LetsBeHonest

Posts: 1548; Member since: Jun 04, 2013

Isn't this similar to Qualcomm's sense ID ultrasonic finger print tech?

6. LetsBeHonest

Posts: 1548; Member since: Jun 04, 2013

Anyway it is pretty cool to see iPhones abandoning those big bezels. Well done. Make it faster

7. LetsBeHonest

Posts: 1548; Member since: Jun 04, 2013

Anyway it is pretty cool to see iPhones abandoning those big bezels. Well done. Make it faster

26. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Yeah look similar then Apple will sue ppl who use the qualcomm tech even if its came out first...

30. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

It's why I clicked on the article. I remember hearing about it last year when I bought my 6p. So it's been in development for awhile now at Qualcomm.

8. wando77

Posts: 1168; Member since: Aug 23, 2012

Why would anybody embedded fingerprint reader mean edge to edge? It doesn't at all

9. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

great.. now they steal ultrasonic FP from qualcomm, and shamelessly patent something they cant make... and the article didnt bother to mention "Qualcomm" in that article, even tough he totally aware that qualcomm already have that tech.. Innovation .s #iPhoneArena

12. Leo_MC

Posts: 7210; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Can you point to a product that has that so called "ultrasonic FP"?

13. submar

Posts: 713; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

It is a tech, not a product.

22. Leo_MC

Posts: 7210; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

The intelligence is not strong with you... I have asked for a product that is using that technology.

31. submar

Posts: 713; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiPikDE6I00&channel=minipcpro Watch carefully, it is Snapdragon 810. DieHard

32. Leo_MC

Posts: 7210; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I don't see them touching the screen, I only see a slimmer sensor.

35. submar

Posts: 713; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

The intelligence is not strong with you... You have asked for a product that is using that technology.

36. Leo_MC

Posts: 7210; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

That technology - if it is the one in that video - has nothing to do with fingerprint sensor EMBEDDED in the display, so it is off topic.

38. submar

Posts: 713; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

See your own post 12, you've asked a product that has "ultrasonic FP", not fingerprint sensor EMBEDDED in the display.

41. Leo_MC

Posts: 7210; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

That's because we are in an article that talks about embedded fingerprint sensor and I thought that's what our colleague is talking about with his "ultrasonic" stuff, but that was not the case (and I have said after I found out).

19. hwb01

Posts: 355; Member since: Apr 17, 2014

Sony Xperia Z5 range

24. Leo_MC

Posts: 7210; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

See 23.

27. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Leo can you point to a product thats has thats so called embedded TouchID? Your comment is so irrelevent its funny. Qualcomm made the tech already its up to OEM to use it or not. Apple instead of stealing and patenting the tech should qualcomm solution.

33. Leo_MC

Posts: 7210; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I can't, because there is no such a product (that I know of). That's what I see in this patent and that's what I'm waiting for: fingerprint scanner under the screen.

34. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

iDiot, just 'cause no one implements a technology in their end product doesn't mean the technology doesn't exist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiPikDE6I00&channel=minipcpro In case you're too stupid to read, this crappIe patent claims: "The most accurate but least common finger-scanning technology is ultrasound imaging" Which is precisely what the Qualcomm representative demonstrated above.

10. SIGPRO

Posts: 2815; Member since: Oct 03, 2012

Fingerprint scanner is oudated, Iris scanner is the future!

14. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

Iris scanner sucks, I don't want to have to stare at my phone to open it, what about in the dark? Fingerprint scanner is the best, most convenient option.

15. SIGPRO

Posts: 2815; Member since: Oct 03, 2012

Did you ever used an Iris scanner, i guess not! And yes it works in total darkness! My Lumia 950XL unlocks by just looking at it, and yes it's fast!

18. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

No I didn't but I often open my phone without looking at it, you have to touch the phone to use it but you don't have to stare at it directly, I often just glance at it to see notifications or whatever. I don't see what actual benefit it offers over a fingerprint sensor.

28. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Having choice is always a benefit. personally i would use iris scanner but will never use fingerprint scanner. Question of taste.

20. hwb01

Posts: 355; Member since: Apr 17, 2014

A phone were you can use both iris and fingerprint scanners simultaneously would be cool.

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