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If we were talking about PC's, then yes, the 7-year upgrade and support cycle is normal. PC's are built to last that long, at least as a fairly general rule for the last couple of decades... there are noted exceptions as well, in both directions, but I would not put mobile phones in the same category. Phones were never before designed to last so long, at least not since the early 2000's. I would never expect 7 years from a phone... and Google is just making a PR stunt out of this to try to upstage Apple and Samsung. There is nothing inherently different about the components in the Google Pixels that extends their useful life that long, especially when, in the mobile device world, the next new technology seems to make the previous generation of tech obsolete within the first two years, and the processors getting supported by Samsung, Google, and even Apple, already get old, sluggish, and glitchy sooner than their support cycle ends, anyway. Even PC's, which were once reasonably well designed to last a good 7 years, are going the way of 'mobile', and therefore becoming disposable, nowadays, too. Extended support for the Pixel 8 and beyond does nothing real to extend the functionality of the devices, which are all, ultimately, still made from the same general parts, processes, and software families...
Absolutely. The PC analogy is not fair, and let's not forget that almost all PCs, even laptops, are upgradable. That's the main reason they can last 10+ years, the software situation just follows the hardware. You can just throw more RAM, storage, and GC in if needed and keep the thing going. If we had modular phones (Google ARA project) seven years of software support would've made sense.
Well, what do you know? As it turns out, Google thinks that you, people, are going to use Pixel phones for seven years. One of the hottest topics after the launch of the Pixel 8 series was and still is the super-long software support cycle. What's going on? Most surveys show that people use their phones for around two years before switching to the next model. So, is this a PR move? Or an attempt to beat Apple and Samsung in the numbers game? What do you think about it?
My 16 years old reserve-reserve laptop is still getting free updates and they are always faultlessly and timely delivered every second Tuesday of every month. Started on Windows Vista, got free upgrades to 7, 8, 8.1, 10. What did I pay for that old Acer laptop? Less than 400 bucks.
Promising 7 years of untimely updates, when it was Google themselves who deliberately sabotaged the built-in self-updating design of Linux, to get rich on planned obsolesce in collusion with global network operators, is bollox.
Fix the automatic software updating feature to give everybody over a decade of free updates instead of this. I'd even argue that Google should be put on trial for ecosystem abuse, by delivering zero updates to competitors while selling their own mediocre trash with these nonsense promises. Google needs to be destroyed as an ecosystem leader. Now that they feel like Android can't grow its usage share compared to iOS, they start sabotaging access for all OEMs in an attempt to take the whole Android cake for themselves.
First, you're full of it. There were no free upgrades from Vista to 7 or 7 to 8/8.1. 10 was the very first version of Windows to offer a free upgrade. If you didn't pay for an upgrade for prior editions it was gifted to you, or you pirated it plain and simple. Second, your 16 year old laptop is riddled with known and unknown hardware security vulnerabilities that can never be patched. This is established fact by many independent security organizations. My Pixel now, and the other two I've owned prior, run perfectly fine with zero issues. They have gotten monthly, regular updates since the Pixel 1.
All that aside, due to the previously mentioned hardware vulnerabilities baked in, all devices should be phased out at no longer than 5 years. Keeping them longer is irresponsible and puts the entire Internet at risk as long as a machine/device is connected to it. This is standard IT practice at all major organizations for this very reason.
The new versions of Android are always released to competitors, eventually. And no updates have ever been denied to them. So, now you're making things up. Also, Android is entirely open source. So, all updates are released to the public freely, which means they make exactly zero dollars on it. Also, keep in mind that their major competitors all do their own updates entirely separate from Google's updates.
Now, as far as market share goes, Google phones have less than 1% of the market share. However, Android as an OS controls over 70% of the market share. So, I'd say Android on the whole is doing just fine and nothing Google is doing is horning in on anybody's market share.
You're grossly misinformed on the actual facts and you straight up lie as well. I'd ask you stop using the Internet so misinformation stops getting spread.
Well, what do you know? As it turns out, Google thinks that you, people, are going to use Pixel phones for seven years. One of the hottest topics after the launch of the Pixel 8 series was and still is the super-long software support cycle. What's going on? Most surveys show that people use their phones for around two years before switching to the next model. So, is this a PR move? Or an attempt to beat Apple and Samsung in the numbers game? What do you think about it?
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If we were talking about PC's, then yes, the 7-year upgrade and support cycle is normal. PC's are built to last that long, at least as a fairly general rule for the last couple of decades... there are noted exceptions as well, in both directions, but I would not put mobile phones in the same category. Phones were never before designed to last so long, at least not since the early 2000's. I would never expect 7 years from a phone... and Google is just making a PR stunt out of this to try to upstage Apple and Samsung. There is nothing inherently different about the components in the Google Pixels that extends their useful life that long, especially when, in the mobile device world, the next new technology seems to make the previous generation of tech obsolete within the first two years, and the processors getting supported by Samsung, Google, and even Apple, already get old, sluggish, and glitchy sooner than their support cycle ends, anyway. Even PC's, which were once reasonably well designed to last a good 7 years, are going the way of 'mobile', and therefore becoming disposable, nowadays, too. Extended support for the Pixel 8 and beyond does nothing real to extend the functionality of the devices, which are all, ultimately, still made from the same general parts, processes, and software families...
Absolutely. The PC analogy is not fair, and let's not forget that almost all PCs, even laptops, are upgradable. That's the main reason they can last 10+ years, the software situation just follows the hardware. You can just throw more RAM, storage, and GC in if needed and keep the thing going. If we had modular phones (Google ARA project) seven years of software support would've made sense.
Well, what do you know? As it turns out, Google thinks that you, people, are going to use Pixel phones for seven years. One of the hottest topics after the launch of the Pixel 8 series was and still is the super-long software support cycle. What's going on? Most surveys show that people use their phones for around two years before switching to the next model. So, is this a PR move? Or an attempt to beat Apple and Samsung in the numbers game? What do you think about it?
It's hypocrisy, smoke and mirrors.
My 16 years old reserve-reserve laptop is still getting free updates and they are always faultlessly and timely delivered every second Tuesday of every month. Started on Windows Vista, got free upgrades to 7, 8, 8.1, 10. What did I pay for that old Acer laptop? Less than 400 bucks.
Promising 7 years of untimely updates, when it was Google themselves who deliberately sabotaged the built-in self-updating design of Linux, to get rich on planned obsolesce in collusion with global network operators, is bollox.
Fix the automatic software updating feature to give everybody over a decade of free updates instead of this. I'd even argue that Google should be put on trial for ecosystem abuse, by delivering zero updates to competitors while selling their own mediocre trash with these nonsense promises. Google needs to be destroyed as an ecosystem leader. Now that they feel like Android can't grow its usage share compared to iOS, they start sabotaging access for all OEMs in an attempt to take the whole Android cake for themselves.
First, you're full of it. There were no free upgrades from Vista to 7 or 7 to 8/8.1. 10 was the very first version of Windows to offer a free upgrade. If you didn't pay for an upgrade for prior editions it was gifted to you, or you pirated it plain and simple. Second, your 16 year old laptop is riddled with known and unknown hardware security vulnerabilities that can never be patched. This is established fact by many independent security organizations. My Pixel now, and the other two I've owned prior, run perfectly fine with zero issues. They have gotten monthly, regular updates since the Pixel 1.
All that aside, due to the previously mentioned hardware vulnerabilities baked in, all devices should be phased out at no longer than 5 years. Keeping them longer is irresponsible and puts the entire Internet at risk as long as a machine/device is connected to it. This is standard IT practice at all major organizations for this very reason.
The new versions of Android are always released to competitors, eventually. And no updates have ever been denied to them. So, now you're making things up. Also, Android is entirely open source. So, all updates are released to the public freely, which means they make exactly zero dollars on it. Also, keep in mind that their major competitors all do their own updates entirely separate from Google's updates.
Now, as far as market share goes, Google phones have less than 1% of the market share. However, Android as an OS controls over 70% of the market share. So, I'd say Android on the whole is doing just fine and nothing Google is doing is horning in on anybody's market share.
You're grossly misinformed on the actual facts and you straight up lie as well. I'd ask you stop using the Internet so misinformation stops getting spread.
Well, what do you know? As it turns out, Google thinks that you, people, are going to use Pixel phones for seven years. One of the hottest topics after the launch of the Pixel 8 series was and still is the super-long software support cycle. What's going on? Most surveys show that people use their phones for around two years before switching to the next model. So, is this a PR move? Or an attempt to beat Apple and Samsung in the numbers game? What do you think about it?