Sprint sets one day sales record thanks to Apple iPhone 4S, AT&T activation mark falls
Earlier this year, Sprint CEO Dan Hesse said that Apple's iconic touchscreen device was the number one reason why subscribers were leaving Sprint for AT&T or Verizon. On October 4th, reports surfaced that Sprint and Apple had signed a $20 billion deal with the former buying 30.5 million copies of the Apple iPhone over the next four years.
Meanwhile, over at AT&T, a record number of Apple iPhones were activated as of 4:30pm eastern time on Friday. In a statement, AT&T said it was on track to double the previous record for activations on a single-day. The downside is that AT&T's servers have been so swamped that many Apple iPhone 4S buyers have been staring at a screen for hours, looking at a message that activation is pending. Some had been waiting as long as 7 hours to get hooked up to AT&T's network.
Besides AT&T and Sprint, Verizon also is offering the Apple iPhone 4S. For the latter two carriers, it is the first time that they have been involved in an Apple iPhone launch from the initial release of the device.
1. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2839; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Well guys, I traded in my Epic Touch for the iPhone 4S. Bye android, it was a good run!
Just kidding, I added a new line to my account. Thank god no more death grip. Testing out to see if the data speeds are faster with the iphone compared to the Epic Touch.
3. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
dam u had me scared there for a min lol...but the epic is going to be faster any way if u have 4g in your area?
11. ikjoiu (Posts: 16; Member since: 09 Oct 2011)
The epic touch sucks when it comes to signal strength sense it uses the same radio chip as the nexus s 4g
17. belovedson (Posts: 821; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
do you own either an epic, nexus or or epic touch?
please tell me you don't please keep your mouth shut. you obvious do not know what your talking about
42. ikjoiu (Posts: 16; Member since: 09 Oct 2011)
i had the nexus s 4g and loved it but had to return it because of the signal issue and if you don't believe me go look at the reviews every one said it had signal problems even Engadget did a whole article on it
62. belovedson (Posts: 821; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
i thought that problem was fixed? i dont have that problem i just got the nexus a month ago
80. ikjoiu (Posts: 16; Member since: 09 Oct 2011)
It was fixed but its still mediocre at best. plus i had to return it before they released a software update for it but im not gonna lie even thought i have the evo 3d now i still miss that phone
76. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2839; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
I had the Epic before and it also had signal issues and so does the epic touch. Outside it works fine but in a building you can forget about using data
90. WhoWeTalkinBout (unregistered)
I almost put some faith in your comment until I realized that you don't know the difference between sense and since. Also I have the Epic 4G Touch and get decent speeds on 3G and blazing fast speeds on 4G (5.5 - 8Mbps).
31. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2839; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Nope, no 4G but 3G is good enough for me anyway.
34. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Why would you care what phone he got?
4. Dujai R. (Posts: 17; Member since: 12 Oct 2009)
the epic touch will be faster since its WiMAX
the iphone supports sprints 3g
8. networkdood (Posts: 5228; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Yeah, Sprint's iphone will beslowwwwww......
9. ikjoiu (Posts: 16; Member since: 09 Oct 2011)
Roryrevolution got an iphone!!!!. I never thought this day would come
13. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2839; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
lol I use to have the iPhone 3G on AT&T back in 2008, so don't be too shocked. =P
15. ikjoiu (Posts: 16; Member since: 09 Oct 2011)
ohh i didnt know that but how to you like it so far?
27. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2839; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
It annoys me how much better signal strength the iPhone has over the epic touch. I tried using both on 3G and every website loaded much faster on the iPhone than on the epic touch. Sometimes the epic touch doesn't even load the website just times out and I have to go to a window or go outside to get the same data speed. Yea I wish sprint had used the same radio that they use on their iPhone.
Anyway, you won't notice much difference as far as apps opening and playing games vs the iPhone 4 but the 4S is faster in everything, just nothing mind blowing faster. Until there are really a lot of high end games out you won't notice much. Still its good to have a dual core processor.
IOS5 is such a huge improvement over when I had the 3G iPhone. The screen resolution is of course really nice, just wish the screen was bigger.
Camera and video quality are also amazing, there's no comparison. It makes every other phone camera look like a piece of s**t.
I am impressed with the battery life, it rivals the epic touch when the epic touch has a huge battery.
33. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Sounds like Apple has a hit. I may sit this round out since I already have iPhone 4. iOS 5 is awesome and only thing I'm really missing is the better camera and Siri. Don't really care about dual core. iPhone 4 is plenty fast for me.
39. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2839; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Yea Taco, my friend has the 4 and we compared them side by side. You won't notice it at all unless you are playing a high demand game that requires the dual core processor. But the camera is a huge improvement on an already great camera. It really has no equal, not even close.
The Siri is pretty cool too, it is amusing when you are bored and want to ask it random and stupid questions but I can see myself forgetting all about it in the future.
The biggest and best improvement is by far IOS5. I can't tell you how much I love it and what a huge improvement it is since my old iPhone 3G says.
5. Alantef (Posts: 278; Member since: 14 Sep 2011)
lol i was gonna say lol...but apple makes Google better and the other way around but i think with ice cream coming out and Google having Google TV out there with a "HD" phone in the prime.......i dont know man
7. networkdood (Posts: 5228; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I agree, competition is always good....although, APPLE does hate competition.
And, APPLE's new releases make the newer Android phone look even better.
12. Alantef (Posts: 278; Member since: 14 Sep 2011)
yea with the release of the iPhone 4s was more than disappointing i wanted something revolutionary...something like projection keyboard hologram or something lol...i'm not a apple fan by any means but if there's competition i'm loving it....but if Google adds in Google TV and other Google features like there music app....idk... Google can end things (well not end things because there will always and forever be isheep)
38. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
So if the prime doesn't do a holographic keyboard and cook your dinner will you declare it a bust?
43. Alantef (Posts: 278; Member since: 14 Sep 2011)
lol no taco im just saying that's what people expect out of camp apple....people thought that it was gonna murder everything out there when only it just made what was good..better but not the best...again apple will sale because that's what apple does best but tech wise and looking at specs....its not the best phone for the numbers its putting up..you have to be honest with that point...
46. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
if it did nothing but talk text and givea handi every once and a while, id buy it.. lol :)
21. ardent1 (Posts: 1968; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Your battery life will be crap. It's a phone. When you make a phone do more than it supposed to, you need better hardware like more RAM, a faster processor, etc, etc, and all those hardware means short battery life. Throw in 4G, and your battery life goes down even more.
The manufacturers get around this by giving you a battery with more juice like more mAH. However, that makes the battery bigger, more expensive, and the device heavier.
But if your phone is too heavy, then the manufacturers cut corners by substituting plastic or other cheap material instead of premium materials. Basically, you have expensive hardware protected by a thin and cheap battery cover.
I have a Motorola Triumph to test out Android and let me tell the battery life sucks. I charge my Triumph about 5 times every 2 days and I can't leave my house without an external power source or a charger in my car. 3G eats the battery like it's nothing.
24. networkdood (Posts: 5228; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Yeah, that is too bad. I bought my Captivate last July 21st and my last charge gave me a full 24 hours of use....I guess either the phone sucks or you just got a bad one. My wife's iphone gets charged twice a day.
29. ardent1 (Posts: 1968; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
3G service on the Triumph lasts about 4 hours per charge based on personal observations. I've read other forums and people are getting the same results. With Virgin Mobile's unlimited 3G for $25 a month, people are using that service for data rather than voice.
The Trimph's battery is rated at 1,380 mAH, and it's crap. I love the $25 a month service and the big 4.1" screen, but I have to recharge the phone constantly and that is a pain.
This site claims it's only 3 hr and 45 minutes
49. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
1380?!?!?!? what kind of smartphone comes with a battery so small. I think even blackberries come with a bigger battery .. lol.
It really needs to be 1500mah+ to even think about making it through the day with any kind of use.
Personally, im exstatic that more phones are breaking the 2000mah barrier. As parts become more power effecient and smaller we will finally get a decent battery life out of our phones.
My Vibrant used to get 1-1.5 days with moderate/regular use running my team wiskey rom. I think one of my cells is fading out on me, but Im not worried about it. Just holdin out for that Prime.. lol
32. Alantef (Posts: 278; Member since: 14 Sep 2011)
if i wanted just a phone i would get a flip phone....and last me all week seeing how i dont call anyone (200mins a month)...i use netflix,hulu plus, Pandora, all day....not to mention i text like something is wrong with talking (13,000 a month.... easy)....i want more than a phone that's why i stick with android...it fits me and what i do most...and that's be awesome 24/7...go android and apple competition
6. networkdood (Posts: 5228; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Good for apple, bad for the margins of AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint - you know how much those phones cost a carrier?? Waaaay too much. Again, APPLE is smart as they are rolling in the dough. Let us hope that APPLE can play nice with Samsung as they are now in U.S. courts trying to ban Samsung from selling products in the U.S.
10. Alantef (Posts: 278; Member since: 14 Sep 2011)
yea i said the same thing the beef with apple is Samsung is CRAZY ive read alot of the documents and alot of it is nitpicking to say the least
14. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
I glad it work for them i don't like the iphone but i am a sprint customer
16. ardent1 (Posts: 1968; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Apple did something that Motorola, Samsung nor HTC could NOT do. Apple delivered a product where Sprint customers can't wait to get their hands on -- the demand was so strong, it set a new one-day record for Sprint. And, IT ONLY TOOK 4 HOURS to set that one day sales record.
These are facts.
19. networkdood (Posts: 5228; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
thumbs up!! Yes, you are correct - but, I believe it was expected....I mean it is the iphone.....some people gotta have because it has WiFis.....and 4G and...it is the iphone....
Check out this classic video:
23. belovedson (Posts: 821; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
just stfu who cares. why start an argument another argument. its good for sprint to have both.
when push comes to shove android offers better tech, customization, and good deal of geekiness
apple is streamlined, easy to use, and it just works.
i prefer android because modding, testing, and changing is a part of my thing.
i own an apple iphone 4 waiting to be converted to sprint but its really hard to put down the nexus s at the moment.
67. ardent1 (Posts: 1968; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
belovedson, you can just kindly STFU yourself.
I am stating FACTS, not starting arguments. Clearly these FACTS bother people. You won't believe how many andriod fanboys don't know FACTS from their asses and just argue because they believe they more they argue, the more they will sound convincing. Here are FACTS: remixfa doesn't know US GAAP, Sniggly doesn't know Apple's win/loss ratio in patents cases, Sniggly doesn't understand cost structure, NeXoS doesn't understand Apple worked on camera lens in mobile devices as early as 1995, etc.
Again, I just LOVE the FACT Apple helped Sprint set a one day sales record in just 4 HOURS something that Samsung, Motorola or HTC has failed to do.
91. WhoWeTalkinBout (unregistered)
You're doing an ok job of trying to make yourself sound like an expert. Why don't you entertain us with your knowledge on these matters so that we (Android users) can be better informed. I do so love comment board experts.
96. ardent1 (Posts: 1968; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
First, this isn't an android fanboy website. Second, it doesn't take an expert to spot when idiots are making stuff up. I am a fact checker and I am very good at using the internet to verify android fanboys desperately advancing their agenda when using bogus claims.
For example, remixfa wants the whole world to know that RD expense is included in gross margins despite US GAAP guidelines. Any android fanboy using his google search feature could have looked up Apple's recent SEC filings to see remixfa was talking out of his ass.
For example, how NeXoS tried to slam Apple iPhone 4S for copying a Samsung's product that was introduced in 2009. Again, any android fanboy could have used the google search feature to discern Apple was in fact working on video technology on a mobile device back in 1995, which predates the Samsung product by 14 years.
For example, you have people like sniggly who write: you've just committed a critical error. "Apple has made exactly one patent payment in the mobile industry in the past several years, which was to Nokia, and only after a dragged out lawsuit. They have flatly refused to pay anyone else who has brought patents to bear against them, the biggest offense being their refusal to pay anything to Motorola. Hence the lawsuits against them." All sniggly had to do was read Apple's publicly filed SEC reports to discern Apple like any other company has won and lost cases over IP. I gave sniggly an example where a company was trying to sue Apple a second time for the same patent infringement.
If you want to know my background, I worked on and off on the financing side of telecommunication for a long time. I worked on a private loan offerring for DISH's uplink facility in Wyoming before DISH had to go to the High Yield Debt market to finance it's satellite launches. I covered the Paging Industry as a Buy Side Analyst. I also covered a lot of ISPs and other telco providers as well over the years. But, what I do best is check facts. You can't believe the amount of fiction that comes out remixfa's mouth -- it's just unbelievable.
26. G-Reg (unregistered)
Dont act like its so damn special. Comparing droid to ios sales is seriously apples to oranges.
Droid has a handful of high end devices spanning a handful of different companies being released on a monthly revolving door schedule. Can the class see why you wouldn’t have the same situation...
Do iproducts program you not to have cognitive thinking skills?
36. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
But you guys have no problem comparing ALL android phones to what was 2 iPhones on 1 and then 2 carriers.
63. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
it was 3 phones.. 3gs, i4-world, i4 VZW. Now its 3gs, i4 world, i4 vzw, i4s GSM , i4s CDMA.
Unless my math is wrong, thats 3 phones and now 5 phones.
84. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Yes your math is wrong. 1st iPhone 4s is now one phone with a dual CDMA/gsm radio. Second iPhone 4 is the same damn phone with a different radio on VZW. How is that a different phone?
This is why you're biased and the village idiot.
88. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
if im the village idiot and i prove you and your ibot friends wrong at every turn, then what does that make you???? lol
the iphone4CDMA rolls off a different factory line than the i4 GSM. its a different device. The galaxyS got broken down to each damn carrier even though it was the same device with different radios, why dont u want the same treatment for your iphone? Heck, i was just breaking it down to the different radio. If you wanna break it down by carrier than there are even more iphones out there.
Keep the field even or dont play.
95. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Gs2 when sales are reported is counted as one device
98. ardent1 (Posts: 1968; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
"the iphone4CDMA rolls off a different factory line than the i4 GSM. its a different device."
The Verizon iPhone 4 is a different device because it rolled off a different factory line than the ATT iPhone 4.
And you wonder why remixfa continues to be the villiage idiot of phonearena. Where the hell does remixfa get his arguments from?
70. ardent1 (Posts: 1968; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
It is special because if it wasn't, then Samsung, HTC, or Motorola would have done it. What made it even more special was that it took ONLY 4 HOURS. This is a lesson that these droid OEMs need to learn and haven't learned their lesson yet!!
The reason these driod OEMs release phones each month is because they can't get it right like the iPhone 4S or 4. Nothing is stopping Motorola, Samsung or HTC to produce their best phone and market it like Apple.
Here's the same question thrown right back at G-Reg: What is stopping Motorola or Samsung or HTC from producing a phone that can sell as well for an entire year just like the iPhone?
The answer is these android manufacturer spend their time making crappy phones. If they took a page from Apple and devoted their time to producing their best stuff, a few phones but damn good phones, people will buy them. The droid OEMs are rushing their products to the market.
So here is the cognitive thinking skills by induction:
Why AREN'T people buying Samsung or Motorola or HTC high end phones that supposed to have better spec's than the dated iPhone 4 or even the iPhone 3GS (recall that ATT has commented 3GS is one of their best sellers)?
Again, why aren't people buying these devices with 4" to as much as 4.6" screens?
The answer is simple: the Apple iPhone offers a better value and it's easier to use.
So why does the Apple iPhone offer a better value?
Because Apple doesn't release a new iPhone every month or 3 months. Why buy a high-end droid device if 3 or 6 months later, you get remorse and need to upgrade?? Think about it, the iPhone 3GS continues to sell as well as some high droid phones because the 3GS is such a compelling value. Why can't droid OEMs do the same thing -- produce a cell phone that offers such a compelling value?
89. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
the only people that have remorse and need an upgrade are technophiles.. and most real technophiles are going to bypass apple and go for android anyways.
Android and iOS serve different audiences. you talk about single phone sales like it means anything. it doesnt. the only thing that means anything is OS penetration because thats where the long term money is. A new device is a fat bump, but what if noone bought new phones for a few years? The OS providers would still be raking it in from residuals.
And actually, report after report have shown that the SGS2 has been outselling the i4 in almost every market since its release.
Education... its not just for breakfast anymore.
93. ardent1 (Posts: 1968; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
remixfa, do you really what to know why you are the village idiot of this website??
First, you don't check your facts. The iPhone 4 is still being sold and let's checks the reports in 6 months and see if the SGS2 continues to outsell the iPhone 4. As I stated earlier, the iPhone 3GS, which is an out-dated phone when compared to the recent advance droid devices, continues to outsell theses devices. That's the logic. It's about longevity not some periodic sales report! I wouldn't be surprised when the iPhone 5 gets launched, the iPhone 4 will still be sold. By then, the SGS2 will still be collecting dust.
Second, Apple is standardizing the phone despite the different networks. My understanding is the iPhone 4S has two antennae's for both GSM and CMDA. If I understand Apple's goal, then ultimately, the iPhone will work on any of the major networks (ignoring TMobile). What does that mean? It means you can switch networks without switching phones meaning the consumers win in the end. Unlike the iPhone 4, where you had to sell you ATT phone to get the Verizon iPhone, that won't be the case in the future. Samsung is producing different handsets of the Galaxy II for each of the major carrier meaning you have to get a new phone if the other carrier doesn't support that handset and recall Verizon declined to be included in the Galaxy SII group.
Third, the remorse is there if you look up the marketing reports. Remorse, in general, is very high in technology products. Just as the guy would bought a touchpad when it first came out and later find out it could have been bought for $99. Or when Apple got sued after dropping the price of the first iPhone "shortly" after the release.
There are other reasons are well. The bottomline is you don't check your facts, you don't think about what you write or say, and you like people to believe you know it all. Unlike you, I spent a lot of time researching the topic so I DO KNOW what I am talking about.
remixfa, many of the times, you just don't know what you are talking about, you like to talk out of your ass, and you argue poorly as well.
97. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Almost everything you said here is wrong. A lot of techies use Apple products including iPhones.
You said single device sales mean nothing? Check Apple's quarterly reports. They make a killing off DEVICE SALES. IPhone sales I believe is now over 50% of their revenue. How can you say device sales mean nothing. Does Samsung, HTC, Motorola make money off android? No they make money off device sales. Only one that benefits from androids marketshare is google because they advertise. A higher market share means more people to advertise to.
Apple and google have very different strategies. Apple makes a lot of money by selling hardware. Google makes a lot of money advertising.
Sgs2 has been outselling the iPhone? Perhaps it may have beat the 4 in a few markets, but that's a 16 month old phone. Let's see how it does against the 4S.
99. ardent1 (Posts: 1968; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
taco50 -- just look at the sales number for the iPhone 3GS. At the end of the day when the 3GS phone goes out of production, then we will compare it's total sale to any single android phone and the comparison will be staggering.
It is my belief that the iPhone 4 will still be sold when the iPhone 5 comes out. The i5 will be the premium product, the i4S will be the intermediate product and the i4 will be the low end product.
In business, they talk about a product life cycle and Apple iPhones have defined standard definition for a technology product. Based on the current technologies available, the 3GS is a "dinosaur" but it sells. Think about it, the 3GS processor is slow at 600Mhz, it has fewer RAM at 256MB, 8 GB of flash, non-Retina display, small 3.5" screen, 3.2 MP shooter, etc and outsells the more advance android products. Go figure.
100. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
That's true in the end it's total sales in its life cycle. The average life span of an android phone is probably less than 1 year. The amazing thing is the 3GS is still he 2nd best selling phone in the US. It's outselling all android phones. Apple's business model is way ahead of the other manufacturers.
18. ReturningToNokia (Posts: 130; Member since: 09 Jul 2011)
This is a Sprint iPhone4s/iPhone 4 article; 18 comments so far including mine, and 15 are from Android users - Just wow. Anyways.....
Congrats to Sprint and all of their customers who were able to get the iPhone 4 (s) this weekend! A very successful debut and launch indeed.
25. belovedson (Posts: 821; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
in america people love trends just at they love being recognized for the charity they provide. i work at a company where i meet and see people in different part of social class.
most people who own either the android and apple do not use it for its capabilities. most smarphone users can get away with mid tier phones, etc.
the problem americans like to fit it and you fit in by owning apple products.
its a shame really. most people buy ipads and iphones and android phones when they can't afford one or use it for its potential
37. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I agree that the majority of smartphone users only use it for basics and don't use the majority of functions. That's all platforms. I think that's why Apple has a hit. You can do calls, text and email and nothing else and it's super easy, but iOS still has amazing depth for the power user.
64. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i was with ya.. right up until the last line.
iOS has NO depth. Its an app launcher. Power users use android. You said it yourself, geeks love the droid. A power user IS a geek.
I realize you think the world of iOS, and thats fine. But dont try to make it something its not.
Its SIMPLE, its STREAMLINED, and generally it functions well.. it however is not deep in the slightest. Deep implies customization, user tools, ect ect, none of which are availible in iOS.
85. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Ok genius so as a business power user what can yo do on android that I can't on iPhone? Remember business people don't do kid stuff like live wallpaper and over clocking their phone all day
22. sprintblowsnuts (unregistered)
sprint broje all their previous records....which was 6 phones in one day...and 5 returned. lmao....sprint blows chunks
28. roscuthiii (Posts: 1658; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
2 friends of mine have iPhones: One had her entire contacts deleted when updating to iOS 5, and the other gave up waiting after a couple hours for the update to finally go through. However, she did have to put me on speakerphone because the iCombustion was starting to burn her ear while talking to me.
It just works...