Samsung executives met Wednesday in Seoul to discuss Design 3.0
Samsung Galaxy S III. Design 2.0 covers everything since, including the Samsung Galaxy S4, which uses Sammy's Nature UX. It is hoped by those who are partial to smartphones made by the Korean manufacturer, that Samsung moves away from its use of plastic no matter how durable it is. Pick up a Samsung Galaxy S4 and an HTC One and you can immediately feel the difference. And if you have ever held a Motorola DROID 4 in your hand, you see why fans of the DROID line say that they are built like a tank. Even Samsung's own employees are said to be tired of the same old plastic and wanted to use metal on the Samsung Galaxy S4 although that would have required a delay in launching the device, which was not an option.
Samsung cannot allow its success to cloud its judgment. The company must listen to what its customers want and many of them want a metal uni-body construction on the next Samsung flagship phone. And don't expect any changes for the Samsung Galaxy Note 3. Rumors have already spread saying that the phablet will be made of the usual plastic.
source: KoreaHerald, SamMobile via GSMArena
1. syedej123 (banned) (Posts: 71; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)
Samsung Galaxy S and Samsung Galaxy S2 were Design 1.0, while Samsung Galaxy S3 and Samsung Galaxy S4 are Design 2.0. Thus Samsung Galaxy S5 and probably Samsung Galaxy S6 will be Design 3.0. I believe that the design of the future Samsung smartphones should be decided by gifted designers and not by the company’s top executives.
3. chocolaking (Posts: 461; Member since: 22 May 2012)
Great point of designer philosophy.
but money drives the company. not design.
9. Rorschach (Posts: 46; Member since: 26 Apr 2013)
I don't care what build version they're on as long as the materials are premium quality; kevlar, aluminum, polycarbonate, idc...
10. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
The S4 is made out of metal and polycarbonate.
The band between the glass and back plate is alumnium, it was also their on the s3. It makes up a majority of the phones outer shell.
The s3 black plate was made out of cheap plastic. On the S4 they upgraded it to polycarbonate.
21. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5649; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
no, the spine is plastic with a metallic paint covering it.
Samsung confirmed the SIII to be made out of polycarbonate which Samsung doesn't impress me with.
12. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 1009; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)
I agree with that. Innovation separates the men from the boys in the mobile industry.
20. chocolaking (Posts: 461; Member since: 22 May 2012)
The " Smart Bomb" is gonna be in the 3.0 for sure!
this is an ultimate feture of all time!
2. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
Well done Sammy! This is great news if they make there devices like the one! Woooooo go Sammy!
4. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
What will the HTC fanboys switch to when the Note 3 comes out sporting higher quality materials than the HTC One?
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22. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5649; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
it's be great if Samsung gets a hold on their designing practices but if the Note III comes out sporting higher quality materials then HTC fanboys are still going to be holding on to the still fairly new One. besides not everybody will just willy nilly upgrade to a phablet.
5. PermanentHiatus (Posts: 267; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)
They should start calling it iDesign 3.0
6. Diego! (Posts: 508; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)
Hopefully they are including flexible screens in their new designs! :D
7. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Hopefully they don't give in to the stupid reviewers and forum fanboys. Just continue to make low maintenance devices you never ever have to worry about that perform well. If using metal means nicks and scratches out of the box like the iPhone 5 and gaps and manufacturing delays out of the wazoo like the HTC One then don't use metal.
To be fair, the Xperia P, ion, and T were extremely well made and used a lot of metal, yet no one jizzed about them even though the designs were great. That goes to show you how much people care about the use of metal.
8. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Actually if they used some decent quality metal it would be near impossible to scratch and dent. Phones like the HTC One and iPhone user very cheap metal that is near identical to what you would find in a soda can.
This would be expensive but if for example the phones body was made out of tungsten you would never have to worry about damage.
38. heyhi (Posts: 126; Member since: 19 Feb 2013)
agreed...Samsung doesn't need to use metal to make a beautiful phone....take Motorola's smartphones, the last Razr line, they are beautiful phones and seems durable as well.
11. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
HTC should learn from this. Instead of writing off the 10% of the market that hates plastic like they hate aids as Apple or HTC fan boys, like HTC wrote off their failures as Samsung puts to much money in marketing, Samsung has a freaking high level meeting to see if they can appease the plastic haters, which wouldn't have purchased the GS4 regardless even if it used metal. That is the mentality HTC needs to adopt. Stop making excuses and just improve as much as you can. No whining about how life isn't fair and I would love to have Samsung's marketing budget bulls**t.
23. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5649; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
you are such a blinded fanboy.
the S4 launches made out of the same plastic and the damn near exact same design as the SIII while HTC radically changes and improves their hardware with the One and you think Samsung's working more to appease people like us? please Taters, please...oh and i'm pretty sure it's much more than 10% of the market that hates the plastic. i don't see how you could possibly be blind to even that realization.
24. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Talk about blinded Fanboyism. Samsung went the full mile with the GS4. Sure they kept to some guidelines(um you have to or your shareholders will rip into you) but anything they felt like they could go all out on, they did. Of course you are either too blind or stupid to see that.
27. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5649; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
of course a Samsung fanboy would think that just bringing the specs up to par, trimming some bezeling that didn't belong in the first place, throwing some software tricks and gimmicks into it and calling it a day would consider that "the full mile" excuses, excuses. maybe you should actually read the article. so instead of "Innovation made simple" it should be "Innovation where the shareholders allow it" then huh?
29. belovedson (Posts: 832; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
the ability to trim the bezel and put in a smaller higher resolution and much better screen is a huge feat. op top of that make the device smaller yet last longer even a bigger feat.
31. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5649; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
the bezel thing really isn't that big of a feat. Motorola has it down to practically zero even with older displays. the slim/battery ratio is alright but naturally with newer, smaller components it's very conceivable. they should've kept the thickness and gave us more battery. people have been wowed by even thinner phones already like the Droid Razr which is one the most used phones in the US and it had larger components than what the S4 is using. people want a phone that'll last and last not something superficial and thin. they could've at least done what Motorola did and offered a thin 16GB model at the $199 price point and a MAXX'd 32GB model for $299.
43. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Lol double standards galore. Samsung should have offered a bigger battery at the cost of size and HTC shouldn't have? I didn't know you decided that. I would take the thinness every time thank you.
What's next, they should have made it the size of the Xperia Z just to add front facing speakers? No thank you to both.
46. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5649; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
well if the size of the One isn't a big deal at all to most people while it doesn't even offer a larger battery then imagine if Samsung just passed on making the S4 thin and instead gave us a bigger battery or at least gave us a version with a bigger battery. they could do it. it would kind of be in line with what they're doing with the Mini and the Active. it could be the Galaxy S4 Pro or something.
42. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
I shouldn't even bother but going all out is easy to see if you are not a biased douche. I can break it down for you if you like but you will just ignore it. But any sane person will see this.
Thinness high end Android handset tied with the Xperia Z check but they one up them by making it much more compact with a much better screen. Much thinner than the 9.3 of some other manufacturers that gets free passes on everything from you... In fact the 5 inch GS4 is more compact than the HTC One overall and that only has a 4.7 inch screen.
Gorilla Glass 3. Check. Only handset to have it and from reports it is great. HTC who apparently goes the extra mile according to you decided to go one mile behind those lazy and cheap jerks Samsung by going with gorilla glass 2. how dare Samsung cheap out on us, they should have went Gorilla Glass 4!
DDR2 ram. See directly above
Octa core first ever big little processor in a phone and clocked high qualcomm 600 with ddr3. They went balls to walls for the consumers but of course HTC tried harder with ddr2 right and a lower clock right?
2600 mah battery in a 7.9mm body that is smaller than 4.7 inch phones. Oh I forgot that is nothing because the mighty HTC has 2300 mah in a 9.3mm body....
You can downplay the software and sensors all you want but the fact is, those things take time and money and Samsung is willing to offer them to their consumers out of their own pockets. Yet HTC is made out to be a hero for skimping out on us just because they used metal and Samsung is a villain. Okay there buddy...........
47. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5649; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
this is pathetic guy, i've been through most of this in the past with you.
making a phone really thin isn't something that's really impressive these days. it's not hard to do or anything, it's just a design choice now. look at phones like the Droid Razr, the One S & the Oppo Finder. Samsung's late to the thinness party. now thickness gets you superior battery life and thickness gets you superior sound. people like those things.
there really isn't a big difference between GG2 and 3. 3 has better scratch resistance but it can't take any more pressure than 2. it's by no means a deal breaker.
oh you mean the RAM that doesn't perform any differently at all in benchmarks against the DDR3 memory Samsung is using? should i remind you who's phone has been associated with laggy behavior?
great for Samsung for having their own stuff but last time i checked most S4's are being sold with Qualcomm's 600 and not the Exynos 5 Octa. they really went balls to the wall to give us everything that mattered huh? i wasn't even knocking Samsung on their specs but for you to insinuate that the S4's specs puts it ahead somehow in reality is a joke. oh, clock matters too huh? again who's phone has been talked up with words like lag and slowdown???
the reality is HTC doesn't have the budget to work with that Samsung does but all things considering HTC was able to transcend the previous standards they had for themselves and offer something truly competitive. the One was improvement across the board, in design, in their UI, in performance, in standout features. that's the whole mile. Samsung gave us a 2013 flagship with all the specs therein but with barely any improvement in design, barely any improvement in their UI, apparently they've gone backwards in reliable performance because i hear more about lag from the S4 than i ever did from the SIII but it's okay because there's a whole lot more software gimmicks for us to never use. i like how IGN put it in the opening paragraph for their review of the S4.
"If the HTC One was a glimpse of Android's promising future of thoughtfully crafted hardware paired with elegantly designed software, the Samsung Galaxy S4 represents its poorly conceived and shoddily constructed past."
34. SonyFindOneDroidple (Posts: 504; Member since: 11 May 2013)
Because HTC one X was a complete failure thats why they have to fix the broken elements of their phone..
13. darkkjedii (Posts: 12753; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Time to re up Sammy, cuz like the iPhone all the galaxy's now look a like. Wow it looks just like last years model...don't keep doing what you criticized apple for. That'd produce a hypocrite.
25. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
They never did that until they found a 20 million seller. Even their GS2 original and GS2 LTE looked completely different. they never got credit for trying every design possible before so I don't see why they should get penalized by the mass for doing it, once.
I really doubt the new standard is a complete refresh every year. Just don't make it EXACTLY the same like the iphone 4 and 4S were.
14. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Where's this info that many of samsungs customers want metal uni body..it seems to me the only people that are complaining are the techies which are a small minority where as the majority could care less as they end up using a case to customise the look of there phone aswel as protecting it..
26. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Yes 10% or less even probably. Of course the HTC fan boys like KingKurogii are not intelligent enough to spot these market trends.
28. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5649; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
how about asking people then?
hand someone a One and a S4 and the people usually gravitate towards the more premium feeling One. we've all seen it. naturally Samsung should and do want that sense of feeling coming from their handsets as well. maybe instead of trying to sell BS like Samsung is such a great company that they're going to appease the 10% of people that want a metal Galaxy by making their flagship devices out of metal you should consider the fact that most people are sick of the plastic. it's been very audible. even gaming websites i read IGN's review of the S4 recently which normal teens go to and they are audibly sick of Samsung's designs. also what a child you are for what you did there.
30. belovedson (Posts: 832; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
most people would rather complain especially if your part of the media. have you seen the news recently its mostly negative and mostly propaganda related.
your doing the same thing by coming to this page and slamming sammy.
sammy will appease the actual users of their products. they actually seem to listen and unibody im sure will come.
32. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5649; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
okay, as an actual user of Samsung products i think that the S4 was a disappointment. don't even think i'm the only one either.
so do you mean to assume that everybody that has had something bad to say about Samsung as of late is not a buyer of their products? if so you're incorrect. a lot of people that have bought Samsung's phones feel that the S4 could've come out better.
45. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Exactly, he just doesn't understand how the media works in relation to the market.
44. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
You are totally clueless aren't you? Technology websites and the people that visit them make up very very very little of the consumers that purchase high end consumer electronics. 10% is extremely generous. Samsung has 20 million already sold with their so called cheap plastic. If you had any type of mathematical brain, you would see that 10% is a pretty safe number for the people who are on the fence because of the material used.lol you suck almost as much as HTC. Sorry. Lol
48. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5649; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
me? clueless? ha. how come you can't even see what Samsung can? Samsung isn't winning over people with the feel of their handsets and they know it. i'm sure that's a lot of the reason why the One has broken into a lot of their sales. do you seriously mean to tell me that only nine out of every ten people you hand a One and an S4 isn't going to gravitate towards the One's more premium feeling versus the plastic feel of the S4? if i didn't have a mathematical brain i still wouldn't have to. i'd just have to understand people. people like their premium smartphones to fell well...premium. :P
35. tiara6918 (Posts: 1553; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
I honestly just prefer the design of the galaxy s2,the sides are not rounded(s3 looked like an ugly soap),there's a hump on the bottom part on the back of the phone for a grip and much comfortable use,the back is made out of plastic but it feels nice to hold(it's not made out of cheaply looking glossy plastic which is prone to fingerprints and scratches now used in majority of the news Samsung phones),the old touchwiz is better since it is more simplified and not bloated with gimmick features. Please Samsung go back on how you made the sgs2,I don't like how you make your new phones anymore,I prefer your older models better
36. SonyFindOneDroidple (Posts: 504; Member since: 11 May 2013)
Stop it please
Esp with the stupid Kingkong here..
Lets just wait for this design 3.0
But Sammy please dont use metal unless you could find a convenient way of removing the back cover so that REMOVABLE BATTERY AND MICROSD(which i think 2 of the most important things for me in picking up a smartphone) will not be eradicated.
Just use different design for your flagships and use gs4's design to your other handsets then we'r settled
40. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5649; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
hoho, you called me Kingkong!
funny guy in the comment section!