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Report: Apple orders 70 million OLED screens; 3D face recognition confirmed for iPhone 8

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Report: Apple orders 70 million OLED screens; 3D face recognition confirmed for iPhone 8
Note: The thumbnail image to the left is an Apple iPhone 8 concept created by graphic designer AlHasan Husni

Just yesterday, we told you that Samsung will be spending $8.9 billion to expand production of OLED panels this year, with Apple the likely beneficiary of this spending. Today, a report from Japan's Nikkei news agency revealed today that Apple has ordered 70 million OLED panels from Samsung for use in 2017. The 10th anniversary iPhone model, dubbed the Apple iPhone 8, is expected to be the only handset from Apple using OLED this year. As a result, we can deduce that Apple expects to sell a huge amount of iPhone 8 handsets over the holiday quarter.

During the same period last year, Apple sold a record 78.3 million handsets. This means that a new record number of quarterly iPhone sales could be made during the calendar fourth quarter this year. In preparation of extremely heavy demand for the model, Samsung is ready to deliver as many as 95 million OLED screens to Apple. The information comes from a source in the iPhone supply chain. According to David Hsieh, a senior director at research company IHS Markit, Samsung will be the sole supplier of OLED displays to Apple. In addition, as previously mentioned by KGI Securities' reliable Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, the other two iPhone units expected this year (Apple iPhone 7s and the Apple iPhone 7s Plus) will stick with LCD screens. Next year, all Apple models will be using OLED screens, according to Kuo.

The report published by Nikkei also confirms Kuo's earlier comment that the iPhone 8 will feature a "revolutionary" front-facing camera. This camera will employ 3D facial recognition technology that will allow it to unlock the phone and verify identification. The supply chain source also said that the iPhone 8 will not have a home button although the other two 2017 models will. We previously told you to expect the unit to carry a 5.2-inch active screen with an area measuring .6-inches that will be used for virtual controls and possibly an embedded version of Touch ID. The iPhone 8 will not be cheap as speculation has Apple pricing the handset above $1,000.

Yuanta Investment Consulting's Jeff Pu estimates that Apple will sell a record 100 million new iPhone models in 2017 with 55 million coming with an OLED display. Others expect that all three of the 2017 iPhones will support wireless charging and will be IP68 certified for dust and water resistance.

Apple should unveil its new 2017 iPhone lineup in September.

source: Nikkei

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posted on 03 Apr 2017, 15:42 7

1. kiko007 (Posts: 4765; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


Hype intensifies...

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 15:43 1

2. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 16223; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Let's see what you got, Apple.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 16:21 15

17. LebronJamesFanboy (Posts: 554; Member since: 23 Mar 2013)


Most likely, nothing too exciting.

The Mac Pro Tower, iPad Air 2, and iPhone 6s Plus may be my last Apple products. Nothing too exciting has come from Apple lately, but I'm hopeful this will change with strong players in the smartphone and computer industries.

Regardless, Apple will do extremely well due to its loyal fan-base.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 16:26 15

19. LebronJamesFanboy (Posts: 554; Member since: 23 Mar 2013)


To add, sad to say not a single Apple product in the Apple Store interests me.

Not to completely blame Tim Cook, but I'd like him to step his game up and properly respond to competition in an innovative way.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 16:30 2

21. darkkjedii (Posts: 23401; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I can't wait to see iOS 11, and iPhone 8 Mxy. I'm actually excited for it like crazy, but the S8 is so tempting.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 16:52 6

43. izim1 (Posts: 1070; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


It's their 10 year anniversary. Id be surprised if they don't go all out for an expensive "special edition" iPhone full of everything they can throw at it.

....then again, this is apple. They can just re-release the original 4gb iPhone with just the new iOS on it, call it "the retro edition" or some hipster name, and have their fanboys line up for days to buy it.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 18:25 1

59. nctx77 (Posts: 2256; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)


That's BS and you know it!! The iPhone 5se sold well, but did everyone buy it? NO!! Heck, Samsung basically stretched the screen and renamed the edge display and it will sell by the millions! Its no different in either camp bro! Heck, I'm starting to think Samsung sheep are worst than Apple fans!

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 19:00

63. zunaidahmed (Posts: 944; Member since: 24 Dec 2011)


You think? Most Apple fans don't argue much but Samsung fans (not android fans as a whole) are a totally different category, heck, TechieXP would probably be the best example, bought 3 note 7s and didn't even return a single one of them during recall, wtf?

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 19:26 10

64. Jason2k13 (Posts: 1265; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)


So if Apple does the same, it would be a new design, but if it's Samsung it's just "stretched out" to you?

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 19:41

65. darkkjedii (Posts: 23401; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I don't believe much of what he says.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 19:44 1

67. kiko007 (Posts: 4765; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


Actually, he returned two of them and kept the final one for personal use as a hand-warmer. I kid, most Samsung fans are relatively pleasant to deal with. They offer their support to a company who lives at the cutting edge ATM, so they feel vindicated. Still, I find the complete 180° they've done in these past three years to be incredibly erroneous.

Remember when the S5 came out? Oh, how they defended that eyesore. It looked s**tty. It performed s**tty. It smelled s**tty. The entire phone was basically a piece of turd with a touch panel shoved into it. Their retorts to the criticism:

A) "Who cares what it looks like? It's waterproof. Waterproof phones have to be ugly!"

B) "Who cards that it performs like s**t? It has "features" that make it superior to every phone! Look at Flipboard, S-Voice, and and a bunch of other bloatware/garbage clogging up too much RAM. All that just adds to the experience! " /s

C) "Plastic is more durable than metal! Screw the conventional wisdom..."

D) "Crappy iPhone only have duel core processor. Why Apple no eight core processor? Why iPhone only have 1 gig of RAM. Apple so behind times, can't benchmark better than Samsung!" (This part was done in an Asian voice for reasons I can't explain...)

Lol... now they're braggadocios. Granted, the S8 is gorgeous, but now they're basically like:

A) Look at that s**tty iPhone.Ewww...bezels. I can't hold my phone with one hand, but at least my phone is purrty!"

B) TBD (To Be Determined... once performance issues arise)

C) Glass is more durable than metal! Screw conventional wisdom...?"

D) Oh....benchmarks no matter now. It has nothing to do with the fact that we are losing all of the major ones, no sir. It's totally because we have reached processing peak. Except Apple hasn't, but whatever... F them. Why still no eight core processor, Apple? Why u do this? Regardless, ignore benchmarks.... and speedtests..."

:/

#2muchlogic

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 19:49 3

69. willard12 (Posts: 1896; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


"Samsung sheep" and "Apple fan". You name calling is the clearest indication of which one is the worst.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 20:13 4

70. willard12 (Posts: 1896; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


I could give you about 100 different 180º variations on comments regarding "big phones", more on widgets, more on NFC, more on folders, more on changing wallpapers, more on "useless specs" (until the 64 bit spec).
Other than the 64 bit thing, if you look at the first few features I mentioned, I can give you 5,000,000 180º comments on people's thoughts on "copying".

I'll soon add inductive charging. According thebthe article, we can probably add OLED.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 20:13

71. piyath (Posts: 772; Member since: 23 Mar 2012)


You r just a one person of all 7 billion in the entire world. So actually your likeness isn't that important.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 20:37

76. kiko007 (Posts: 4765; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


I don't think you're understanding my point: the roles have almost COMPLETELY reversed now. What you're talking are minority opinions at best regarding features and there necessity. What I'm talking about are community agendas AS A WHOLE. Those statements I posted are a consensus analyst of the Samsung community as a unit at the time. People in the Apple camp still buy small phones. People in the Apple camp still don't care about specs (at least the majority don't). We still can't use full NFC or widgets, and neither is truly that useful outside of payments a weather updates. And you lost me with the folders/changing wallpapers thing. Consensus amongst the Apple population is much more varied, probably because the iOS community is far larger than any single Android OEM.

"I'll soon add inductive charging. According thebthe article, we can probably add OLED."

Let's address this first: there's no indication that the method of wireless charging Apple will use will be inductive. There's a slight chance that it may be ACTUAL wireless charging.

Now, as for the second thing, tell me: How many Apple enthusiasts do you see commenting on Samsung's screen technology in a negative light. The number is small, almost insignificant. The consensus within even the Apple camp is that Samsung's screens are MARVELOUS. Go to MacRumours right bow and search for any screen comparison... you'll see what I'm talking about.

My post wasn't a diss at the Samsung community. I just wanted to acknowledge the fervent change in methodology within that very same community.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 20:41

78. razmahtaz001 (Posts: 219; Member since: 11 May 2013)


i thought it was samdung and ishet???

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 21:25 7

88. willard12 (Posts: 1896; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


I thought your point was 180º turns, in which the biggest 180º turn in the history of turns is the Apple fan's thoughts on big screens. The number 2 fervent change of all changes is the Apple's fan's rabid attack on copying copiers to their love and acceptance of "adopting" features and showing other companies how to "do it right".

I'm not able to gauge who is an enthusiast or not (or a "sheep" as NCTX77 would refer to a Samsung enthusiast), but I saw plenty of comments on how much better IPS was in terms of accuracy, RGB, etc. You can dismiss it and say it wasn't the majority, but you're reaching if you can find 2 people who have said glass is more durable than metal. Either way, I"d love to see your data on how you determined your version of the analysis reached a consensus.

I could also add comments on camera megapixels, the stylus, split screens, pull down notifications, haptic feedback,water resistance.

Furthermore, real Samsung fans have been critical and don't just fall in line. Samsung fans criticized the removal of the sd card, sealed battery, loss of IR blaster, loss of water resistance. 2 of those things Samsung listened and brought back. When have a consensus of Apple fans ever been that honest in their criticism in those numbers? Never.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 22:12 2

90. NoToFanboys (Posts: 2469; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Because of your statement, people here will probably label you as Fandroid who pretended to own Apple products.

posted on 04 Apr 2017, 10:26

98. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 16223; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Same here. I'm excited to see what Apple cooks up, but I also have eyes on the Pixel successor.

posted on 04 Apr 2017, 13:01

101. sgodsell (Posts: 4412; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


Willard12 if you are trying to talk to kiko007 about being honest. Then those are just lost words on him and nctx77. You may as well talk to a wall as to try and talk to those two sheep. Kiko007 will always try to come back with some twisted story if he was actually wrong. He can never admit that he is wrong most of the time.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 15:45 12

3. abdoualgeria (Posts: 628; Member since: 27 Jul 2015)


Now im wondering how ifans will justify burn-ins ??

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 15:51 9

7. kiko007 (Posts: 4765; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


These are Samsung's panels. If they get burn-in, it's strictly their issue. Besides, burn-in is only a problem if you leave static images on screen for hours at a time. My Nexus 6 is two years old, and still doesn't have burn-in. So basically, it's not a problem.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 16:37

26. Unordinary (Posts: 2327; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)


How is it justified though, when it's such a variety of problem? My friends Note 4 had a burn in within a few weeks of purchase. He got a new one from Samsung and it burned in a few months later. He never uses his phone for hours on time. No more than 20 mins at a time.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 16:39

30. izim1 (Posts: 1070; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


Burn ins? Lmao robin williams in jumanji "what year is it??" Dude aside from a nexus here and there I haven't heard of a display having burn in issues in years. You'd be surprised how technology advances. It's 2017. Unless you're displaying your phone at bestbuy 24/7 with the screen at full brightness, don't worry about burn in....

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 16:41 9

33. izim1 (Posts: 1070; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


The classic "my friend a friend of a friend a cousin of a relative" urban legend technique.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 17:23 4

52. NoToFanboys (Posts: 2469; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Yeah sure, you have a really huge sample size there. /s
Good job tim cook jockrider.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 19:48

68. sgtdisturbed47 (Posts: 790; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)


This problem can also be found on S6/Edge/Plus, Note 5, and S7. It's an AMOLED problem that has yet to be fixed, mostly because of the display tech itself. Apple users aren't going to say "I blame Samsung for burn-in", because it's an Apple device and Apple is financially responsible for the defects.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 20:13

72. piyath (Posts: 772; Member since: 23 Mar 2012)


Lol....

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 20:19 4

73. sissy246 (Posts: 3370; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


Only phone I had with burn in was a Motorola atrix.
I have never had one e of my Samsung phones get burn in.

posted on 03 Apr 2017, 20:30 3

74. Macready (Posts: 1364; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)


"These are Samsung's panels. If they get burn-in, it's strictly their issue"

Baloney of course. Pretty much all Apple hardware parts are manufactured by others, according to Apple, specs, wishes and demands. If there's a problem, it's Apple's problem for using them and giving these parts their approval.

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