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Oppo Find 7: is the higher price worth the same performance?

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Oppo Find 7: is the higher price worth the same performance?
Earlier today, the first set of benchmarks came out to compare the Oppo Find 7 and its lower-cost sibling, the Oppo Find 7a. The results weren't exactly surprising, if you've been paying attention to what Motorola has been saying for the past year, but it does bring up an important question: is it worth a higher price tag to get the same relative performance?

Obviously, there are a couple key differences between the Oppo Find 7 and 7a which are not reflected in the benchmarks. The display on the Find 7 is much higher resolution, so (theoretically) it will look sharper and nicer, though that has yet to be proven because the devices haven't been released yet. Also, the camera on the Find 7 uses a special process to merge multiple shots together into a 50MP image. The leaked photos that have come out show that this process does produce better images in general, but there have also been indicators that the color reproduction isn't quite as good as what you'd find on the Oppo Find 7a. 

But, the real thing that I want to talk about here is this constant struggle between performance and specs. There are quite a few of you out there who fall firmly on the side that argues specs always win out, no matter what. And, there are a those (either fewer in number or less vocal), who agree with me that specs don't matter as much as the daily performance that you get from a device. The two are not mutually exclusive, but at the same time, there is often a disconnect between specs and performance. 

The benchmarks


Just to start out, it should be mentioned that the Find 7 processor may not be that much faster than the Find 7a. There is a bit of a difference in what has been reported and what the benchmarks show. We know for sure that the Oppo Find 7 uses the Snapdragon 801 MSM8974-AC, which has a clock speed of 2.5GHz, and a GPU speed of 578MHz. The reports have said that the Find 7a features a 2.3 GHz Snapdragon 800 processor, which would mean that it also features a slower GPU, likely clocked at 550MHz, depending on the processor model. But, the benchmarks indicate that the Find 7a is using the Snapdragon 801 MSM8974-AB, which has a CPU clock speed of 2.3GHz, but the same GPU speed (578MHz) as you'd find with the chip in the Oppo Find 7. 

Either way, the speed differences between the two devices are minimal, which would mean that the two biggest differences that have an effect on performance between these two devices would be in the display technology and the fact that the Find 7 features 3GB of RAM compared to just 2GB of RAM in the Find 7a. And, if you dig deeper into the specs, you'll see that whatever the spec differences are, they don't amount to much for the Oppo Find 7.


As was mentioned in the earlier post, the Find 7a scored a bit higher on the Basemark GPU test than its higher-spec brother. The difference wasn't huge (61.19 compared to 59.61), but it was certainly an interesting result. The general assumption is that the much higher resolution on the Find 7 (1440 x 2560) takes a lot more processing power to operate than the 1080p display found on the Find 7a. If the two devices are using the same GPU, the difference is understandable, but if the Find 7a is using a slower GPU, the difference is much more telling. But, the GPU test isn't the only place where you'll find this performance issue.

The other benchmarks run show a similar bend towards the Find 7a. There were a few other tests run, and while most were fairly even, the numbers usually gave the edge to the Find 7a. On the Quadrant benchmark, the Find 71 scored a 22,234 compared to a 22,126 for the Find 7; the Vellamo HTML5 test was similarly close at 2,967 for the Find 7a and 2,988 for the Find 7; and, the Metal memory tests came out at 1,308 for the Find 7a and 1,371 for the Find 7. The biggest difference between the two was in the Antutu score, where the Find 7a scored an impressive 37,198 compared to 35,424 for the Find 7.

Is the Oppo Find 7 worth it?


Again, if the two devices really are using essentially the same chipset, but with a different CPU clock speed, the similarities in benchmark performance is understandable. But, if the Find 7a really does have the Snapdragon 800 as reported earlier, it shows that the hardware of the Find 7 is affecting the performance of its internals quite a bit. And, those effects won't stop just at the speed performance either. 

There is a reason why the Oppo Find 7 features a slightly larger battery than you'll find in the Find 7a (3000mAh compared to 2800mAh). The higher resolution display doesn't just take more GPU power to perform at the same level, but pushing that many pixels takes quite a toll on the battery life that you'll get from a device. The display on your smartphone is currently the most power-hungry component on the device, and upping the specs on that display is going to make it even more power-hungry. The tests haven't been run yet, but it wouldn't be surprising to see the Oppo Find 7a beat out the 7 in battery life, even with the smaller pack. The best case scenario for the Find 7 is to have battery life that is on par with the lower-cost 7a. 


The arguments for the higher specs don't really hold here. The usual argument is that higher specs means that the device is "more future proof", but if those higher specs can't even generate as good performance right now, the future doesn't seem all that bright. Additionally, if you're looking at the two devices side by side, you'll likely notice that the Find 7 display is sharper than the Find 7a, but the comparison that has leaked out shows that the Find 7a has better color reproduction, which often impacts a user's opinion more than resolution. Either way, those are differences that will likely fade from your consciousness once you're not comparing them directly anymore. The camera is potentially also a difference maker between the two devices, but given the relative parity in performance that may exist between the Find 7 and the 7a, it could almost be like paying $100 more just for the slightly better camera. And, since the majority of you are unlikely to be printing billboard signs from your photos, the 50MP trick may not make much difference in regular usage. 

So, if you're in the store, and you're looking at two devices: one has "faster" internal components, a larger battery, a higher resolution display, and potentially a better camera; but, the other is $100 cheaper and offers performance on par, or even better than the more costly option, which do you choose?

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posted on 23 Mar 2014, 11:19 6

1. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3184; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


QHD means battery and performance taxing gimmick with no noticeable and appreciable advantage. And this is the same thing like putting a full HD display on a phone running crap mediatek chipset.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 11:29 1

4. Dude2014 (Posts: 135; Member since: 12 Feb 2014)


Those crap mediatek chipsets nowadays are much better than your Galaxy S2's antique fossil chipset even if they both run at your GS2's crap resolution. Just saying. :)

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 11:38 4

7. alltechinside (Posts: 236; Member since: 21 Apr 2013)


That antique fossil chipset was the leading chipset at the time...
And Idk where you learned that those mediatek chipset run better?
If anything, I don't think any Galaxy S 2 devices ran Mediatek chips....

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 11:41 2

8. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3184; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


Hehaheha whatever. I'm also an owner of nexus 7 2 now. Dont know why people heat over simple opinions. And in no way those crap mediatek chips are better than my exynos 4 gs2. It still performs top notch. While mediatek despite better(seeming) configuration still lag.

posted on 25 Mar 2014, 02:13

33. A.S.H (Posts: 1; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)


"Hehaheha."

My sides.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 12:31 5

15. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3984; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Actually, all but Mediatek's highest performance chips (MT6588 or higher) have worse GPUs than the Galaxy S2. So even at the same resolution, the Galaxy S2 will have much better graphics performance. All other Mediatek SoC from 2013 have either single or dual core Mali-400 GPUs or single core PowerVR SGX 544 GPUs, which are inferior to the Galaxy S2's quad core Mali-400.

posted on 24 Mar 2014, 03:27

30. TylerGrunter (Posts: 903; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Even I understand were your comming is coming from it's not 100% on mark.
The old Exynos chip had a Mali-400 MP4 clocked at 266 MHz as it was built in 45 nm.
Even Mediatek uses Mali-400 MP1 or MP2 in some products they are built in 28 nm and clocked at 500 MHz and offer a far better performance that Exynos one.
Moreover nowadays they use Mali-450 in most of the high ends, doubling the performance of the Exynos 4 Dual 45 nm.
In some GPUs they go even higher, in the top ones they use PowerVr Rogue 6 or Mali-T760.
So please don't exagerate that much.

posted on 24 Mar 2014, 18:07

32. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3984; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Ah, I forgot that it was built on 45 nm, my bad. But I accounted for their high end chips in the first sentence, and excluded them from the comparison. Either way, the majority of their SoC produced last year used Mali-400 MP1/2 and PowerVR SGX 544. Just a handful of devices use the chips with Mali-450, and none as far as I know use the ones with the Rogue or Mali-T760.

posted on 25 Mar 2014, 04:16

34. TylerGrunter (Posts: 903; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Mali-T760 will come later this year in the MT6732 and the MT6752 (cortex A53, 64 bits)

Rogue is used in the MT6595, and already exysting product and their top of the line for the time being:
http://www.mediatek.com/en/products/mobile-communications/mobile-chipsets/smartphone/mt6595/

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 18:39

27. fireblade (Posts: 693; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)


better than antique chipset? you'll blame mediatek for its stupid GPS.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 11:20

2. Dude2014 (Posts: 135; Member since: 12 Feb 2014)


Oppo Find 7 didn't wow me anything just like GS5.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 11:26 5

3. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8093; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Nope. I rather take a Find 7a over the 7.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 13:02

18. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3984; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


I think everyone would if they were well informed. You would think the lower performance, lower efficiency, and bad color reproduction would discourage Oppo from making the Find 7 with a QHD display. You get a higher pixel density, improved camera function, and a carbon fiber back with the Find 7, but all of those aren't very practical when compared to the Find 7a's advantages.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 11:33

5. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1139; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


there must be a flaw in the 801 processor

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 11:43 1

9. fzacek (Posts: 1561; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)


No, it's just that the Find 7 has almost twice as many pixels to instruct on what to do.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 11:43 1

10. alltechinside (Posts: 236; Member since: 21 Apr 2013)


Not exactly. The flaw to me is the display. It doesn't seen to produce any good color reproduction compared with the 1080p screen.

I don't expect the battery to be better on the 7 compared with the 7a because:

1. More pixel = more battery used
2. Higher clock speed = More battery used (for CPU & GPU)

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 11:35 2

6. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 1794; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)


... Neither one..

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 11:45 1

11. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2682; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


Not worth it.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 13:27 2

20. _Bone_ (Posts: 2123; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Well think like this: you get an iSamsonyG 16GB for $600, and you get the iSamsonyG 32GB for $700, so what do you get for $100?
16GBs of extra storage.

However here you get the Oppo Find 7a for $500, and what do you get for $100?
16GB extra storage.
AND the faster SoC.
AND the 3GB RAM.
AND the QHD screen.
AND the larger battery.

Get it? You won't get as many goodies for $100 anywhere else.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 13:55 1

22. skinny95black (Posts: 113; Member since: 06 Jan 2013)


Here in my country the difrrence is over 100

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 14:03 2

23. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2682; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


Ehm... The faster SOC doesn't matter because with 2.5k resolution it's still slower. And the 7a has a better screen other ways. Plus probably that extra battery won't help because of that resolution and CPU bump

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 17:33 1

26. _Bone_ (Posts: 2123; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Ehm then buy the Xperia Z1 Compact, nice 720p screen for your performance.

posted on 24 Mar 2014, 00:40

29. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2682; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


1080p is good

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 14:57

24. Dude2014 (Posts: 135; Member since: 12 Feb 2014)


How about iSamsonyHG?

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 11:55

12. AfterShock (Posts: 2798; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


As I said in other Oppo post.
They rate about on par with my Nexus 5.
Not enough to warrant a purchase.

I truly think they aimed for its market.
Good on them though.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 12:06 2

13. Blitz (Posts: 2; Member since: 02 Dec 2013)


@Dude 2014...GS2 has always been the cult phone and the game changer for Android.
Even today we have a very big developer base developing custom rom's for GS2.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 12:32 2

16. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3184; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


Very true dude. GS2 in terms of hardware and Android 4.0 in terms of software were vital and gamechanging landmarks for android. This fool wont understand this. This is the second time he cried for this reason. I'm using cyanogenmod 11 on my GS2, waiting for the stable release.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 12:29

14. seanwhat (Posts: 101; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


QHD is just marketing, at least for now; unfortunately people will always buy into the hype.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 12:39 1

17. Jommick (Posts: 192; Member since: 10 Sep 2013)


"Disconnect between specs and performance" - noticable with the Moto X and iPhone 5s.
Dual core processors, but great everyday usability.
Specs are nice and all, but what I've found they're mostly useful for (for the average customer I deal with on a daily basis) is saying this one has four cores, three gigs of RAM, and bigger numbers are better.
There are a few who understand more bigger numbers aren't better, but the average person has the dogma of "it's bigger".

tl;dr - people I deal with think bigger is better regardless of circumstances.

posted on 24 Mar 2014, 04:13

31. TylerGrunter (Posts: 903; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


I can agree with the Moto X, but the iPhone 5S has the most powerful processor in a mobile device till the date.
Therefore it's a bad example for a disconnection of specs and performance, as it has both, the great specs and the peformance.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 13:17

19. _Bone_ (Posts: 2123; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


The question is flawed on many levels, for one, you could always ask if the LG/Sammy/Sony/HTC premium price is worthy when you can buy the Nexus, BUT!

You do get a faster SoC on the QHD7, you do get 50% more RAM, you do get twice as many pixels and you get 32GB out of the box - guess what, it usually costs $100 more than the 16GB phone price, and in Oppo's case, you're not only get twice the storage, but twice the store AND QHD, 3GB RAM, SD801 and a larger battery.

So yes, it is absolutely worth to hand out $100 for all that.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 13:40

21. Amir1 (Posts: 261; Member since: 20 Aug 2013)


phones should be powered with QHD only from 2015.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 15:07

25. Bishop_99 (Posts: 63; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)


Yes. The QHD display is easily worth the slightly higher price even if it slightly under performes when compared to the 1080p.

Having said that. I will wait until the Galaxy Note 4 comes out with the Snapdragon 805 cpu. Hopefully it comes with a QHD display, if not, I will be looking at other OEM's.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 21:03

28. kaikuheadhunterz (Posts: 707; Member since: 18 Jul 2013)


I'm on both sides, actually. I would want a good processor, but I'd much rather take a qHD (as in quarter HD) display for smoother performance

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