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Microsoft and Nokia reportedly end merger negotiations

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Microsoft and Nokia reportedly end merger negotiations
The word has been that Microsoft and Nokia have a partnership deal that could have Microsoft paying the Finnish company as much as $1 billion per year to build devices for the Windows Phone platform. But, a new report from The Wall Street Journal is saying that it had actually gone beyond that and the two companies were actually in "advanced" merger negotiations until just recently.

According to a source, the talks had been ongoing as recently as this month, but that they are officially dead now, and unlikely to continue. A Microsoft spokesman said that there is nothing out of the ordinary with the two companies meeting regularly, and neither confirmed nor denied the allegations. A WSJ source said that the two companies had been meeting in London, and were "close to an oral agreement" to merge the companies together. 

There was no word as to why the supposed negotiations failed, nor why they would be unlikely to continue. Of course, had the merger happened, it wouldn't have been much of a surprise, but it certainly would have made some waves in the mobile world by officially combining Microsoft's software development with Nokia's expertise in hardware.

source: WSJ

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posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:02 22

1. kozza3 (Posts: 574; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


OMG my dream of a Nokia device running Android SURVIVES!!!

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:04 19

3. Kreft (Posts: 84; Member since: 27 Dec 2012)


No it doesn't. If that's what you're waiting for.. Don't hold your breath.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:14 2

12. kozza3 (Posts: 574; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


it's not really my dream device. i would love to design my own hardware
i hate how im stuck choosing from whatever these companies decide to make. maybe when i get a hold of one of those fancy 3d-printers :P

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:07

19. Kevinphantom (Posts: 82; Member since: 17 Jun 2013)


I feel stuck to .I will make my own smartphone soon I will decide to which hardware I want to use in my smartphone

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 23:39

51. joey_sfb (Posts: 3138; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


friend can become enemy it's not wise for Nokia to build their platform services on a OS they don't own.

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 04:30

59. loyals (Posts: 129; Member since: 10 Nov 2012)


@micheal...how come this news is not in featuring list ??

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 11:01

64. PhoneCritic (Posts: 375; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Actually it's not dead. It's in the hands of the share holders. if they feel that Nokia is still not meeting their expectations they can force by a vote to oust Elop and replace him with a new CEO that is either open to not putting everything in one basket or that might cancel the agreement with MS and start a on a new path. That is the call of the shareholders in the next meeting.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:06 17

6. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Whoever thinks that NOKIA is building an Android powered should dig a hole ,sit in it and wait till the dooms day.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 18:04 7

24. jdoee100 (Posts: 308; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Dooms day?? Nokia already is in dooms day. We're waiting for a new beginning.

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 00:15 4

52. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 495; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)


Who says Nokia is doom? are you an apple fan boy? or you taking any pay checks from Samsung? Nokia will stay..

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 05:28 1

61. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


He must be a Samsung fanboy. Just saying.
Before Galaxy series actually Samsung was in dooms day.

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 11:15

66. PhoneCritic (Posts: 375; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


never say never in this industry. Remember Google and Apple were best of friends ( Google even had a seat on the Apple board) before Android was release.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:09 4

8. roldefol (Posts: 3124; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


By the time that happens, we might be using Tizen phones.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 23:25 2

50. haseebzahid (Posts: 1836; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


its made by samsung and samsung sucks big time in software remeber badadadada its android that kept them alive for so long

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 00:34 1

53. iushnt (Posts: 728; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


Bada was for low end devices..and its not difficult for them to develop os. They might have learnt much from bada and they have all the resources to hire finest team of developers and engineers to make a gr8 os..

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:51 5

16. Credo (Posts: 695; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)


Will never happen, Android does'nt need Nokia, Windows Phone does'nt need Samsung, HTC, Huawei, Acer etc ...

Greetzz.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 18:14 4

27. NexusKoolaid (Posts: 307; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


Android may not need Nokia, but Nokia could use the cash a few Android products would bring in.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 19:20 4

38. Credo (Posts: 695; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)


I don't think so, Android is just not for Nokia, Windows Phone looks much greater on Nokia hardware, they just need a better way of marketing.

Greetzz.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:40

21. akki20892 (Posts: 3623; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


looks like to me is Ms and Nokia wanna do like google and other OEM do (nexus device). something like Microsoft edition lumia.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 18:09 4

25. milesboy5 (Posts: 164; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)


except it would be more like google and motorola and theres no need for a Microsoft edition since there aren't different OEM flares like touchwiz or sense on WP's

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 19:45 1

43. akki20892 (Posts: 3623; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


ok i change my mind it's a fake news.

posted on 22 Jun 2013, 13:17

70. djripster (Posts: 133; Member since: 10 Dec 2011)


I also wanted to add that you can remove any Windows Phone app you don't want... so you can buy any Windows Phone and remove the 'bloat ware' if you don't want/need it

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 19:37

41. asseek (Posts: 164; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


lol .....and in what ways would the Microsoft Edition Lumia be different than any other WP8, or Lumia device? they all have the same UI

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:47 3

23. sid07desai (Posts: 271; Member since: 03 May 2012)


No wonder Huawei is planning to buy Nokia

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 18:31 8

28. applesauce (banned) (Posts: 165; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)


No, they're not... read the earlier article. Clearly states "NOT" planning on buying it.

As if they could afford it anyway, which they can't.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:03 6

2. 110410 (Posts: 23; Member since: 26 Feb 2013)


just make an android phone NOKIA and youre back on top

posted on 21 Jun 2013, 17:05

69. airisoverrated (Posts: 27; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


Because that's working so well for HTC right now. Face it if you aren't Samsung, you aren't making much money selling Android phones in the US and Europe.

Nokia is better off letting HTC, Huawei, ZTE, Sony, LG, Lenovo, and Acer all fight Samsung and each other for Android market share. They all have issues differentiating themselves in a crowded market.

Meanwhile the biggest thing that differentiates the hardware is the OS running on it. Love it or hate it, it is a very different look, feel, and experience from the Android pack, and that seems to have a growing appeal. Not to mention the OS works better on low end hardware than Android does, putting them in a strong position to capture the emerging markets in Africa and Asia where Nokia has traditionally done well with feature phones.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:05 7

4. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Hakoona Matata!!!!!!!!!

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 19:18 2

37. Deaconclgi (Posts: 322; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


That's my philosophy!!!!

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 05:29

62. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


No that's mine

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:05 1

5. roldefol (Posts: 3124; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Their current arrangement seems to be working fine for both parties. Nokia has a virtual monopoly on the #3 mobile platform, and MS has a respected vendor selling their OS. Why complicate matters with a merger that might taint Nokia's good name?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 19:55

44. yorcharturo (Posts: 9; Member since: 23 May 2013)


Well Nokis used to have a monopoly on the #1 platform for 14 years, and Windows Phone is not the #3 is the #6 on the installed user base, just look at the latest stats from netmarketshare(dot)com or in the case of statcounter(dot)com it is the #8

And in sales... Well Windows Phone still is the #4 platform, still behind (by just a little bit) from BlackBerry (Q1 2013)

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 21:04

49. roldefol (Posts: 3124; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Screw installed user base. A couple years back there was a huge installed user base of Blackberry owners pining for the end of iPhone exclusivity on AT&T so they could buy one. Symbian may still have installed users, but they're going to upgrade eventually.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:06 9

7. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Whoever thinks that NOKIA is building an Android powered should dig a hole ,sit in it and wait till the dooms day.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:10 2

9. Bilpocalypse (Posts: 301; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)


This would have been a good thing for MS, but Nokia has more options without the merger. I could care less about android support, but I would be interested in seeing a solid Nokia phone running Sailfish or some other open linux based OS.

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 06:31

63. kdealltheway (Posts: 94; Member since: 21 Oct 2012)


Ubuntu phone OS

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:13 5

10. KINGJUAN27 (Posts: 196; Member since: 02 Jul 2012)


A partnership deal is ok but Nokia should never merge with Microsoft!

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:13 3

11. iguano (Posts: 101; Member since: 10 May 2012)


Everyone hate Nokia but everyone wants to buy it!!! Why!?!?!

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 18:50 1

34. BillyG (Posts: 305; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)


lol...delusional....dont define yourself as everyone...

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 19:56 1

45. yorcharturo (Posts: 9; Member since: 23 May 2013)


Navteq + NSN + Patents

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 00:39

55. iushnt (Posts: 728; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


I dont hate nokia..I used to have e series..but I dun wanna buy nokia today as there are no punch and wow factor in Lumia. But who knows what they make tomorrow and change my mind..

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:18 2

13. papss (unregistered)


I wouldn't want a merge tbh. It would turn out to be like the moto/google buy.. Moto hasn't made a phone since and the one rumored to come out is no where near the specs that Moto should be making. Rambling a bit... It would just fluff their patent folder

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:21 1

14. roldefol (Posts: 3124; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


We know from the Surface (and xbox, come to think of it) that MS wants to get into self-branded hardware. A MS-Nokia "merger" would potentially end with Nokia making hardware under a Microsoft brand. And how many people here would proudly say "I bought a Microsoft!"?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:39 2

20. ZeroCide (Posts: 698; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)


Probably wouldn't say "I bought a microsoft" it would be more like "I bought a surface phone".

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 18:56 5

35. roldefol (Posts: 3124; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


They can call it the Microphone.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:22 3

15. alterecho (Posts: 1091; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


Microsoft would have run Nokia to the ground, with their pigheaded decisions. Microsoft is now being run by bafoons, which has become apparent with the launch of the XBOX One (started with Windows 8). Nokia wants to make WP devices only, fine (no, not really) but don't let MS take control. They have developed a knack for ruining perfectly good products, like how they ruined windows and XBOX brands with Windows 8 and XBOX One, respectively.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 18:13 3

26. sprockkets (Posts: 1316; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


MS is already running Nokia into the ground with Elop. Only think keeping Nokia afloat is their quarterly payment from MS.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 18:32 1

30. applesauce (banned) (Posts: 165; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)


If you pay attention to the news, you'll know that Microsoft has recanted a lot of the DRM stuff on the XBox One (which, IMHO, they didn't have to, but it pleases the whiners, so whatever)

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:00 3

17. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6689; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Sweet finally some good news! Now make w NOKIA ANDROID!

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:43 4

22. Whateverman (Posts: 3231; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Wouldn't it be wonderful...for Android fans at least.:)

posted on 21 Jun 2013, 16:47

68. airisoverrated (Posts: 27; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


There are a dozen Android phone manufacturers. Why does everyone say they want one from the only company that doesn't make them?

Just by yourself a colorful S4. That should be close enough. Well until the 41MP Lumia camera phone comes out anyway. Then you can try the S4 Zoom.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:01

18. WakaFlakaD (Posts: 370; Member since: 30 Apr 2011)


Since Nokia is selling so well under WM8, it needs a talk for sure

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 19:21 1

39. Deaconclgi (Posts: 322; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


"Can I haz this WM8 that you speak of please?" No, seriously....what and where is it?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 18:31 6

29. mottykels (Posts: 372; Member since: 15 May 2013)


Android PureView is Coming!!! :D

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 18:43 4

33. roldefol (Posts: 3124; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Really????! When is the release date??

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 00:36 1

54. mottykels (Posts: 372; Member since: 15 May 2013)


2014 XD

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 05:17

60. roldefol (Posts: 3124; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Well gosh this is huge news! But surely there must be a press release we can refer to...

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 19:21 1

40. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6689; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


41MP ANDROID POWER HOUSE CAMERA ;)

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 19:57 1

46. yorcharturo (Posts: 9; Member since: 23 May 2013)


Galaxy S4 Zoom by many will be consider the equivalent.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 20:30 1

48. papss (unregistered)


Right.. I needed the laugh

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