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Google's Rubin says Windows Phone 7 not needed

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Google's Rubin says Windows Phone 7 not needed
Google's Andy Rubin could be called the 'Father of Android' besides being known as the VP of engineering for the Mountain View based company. PC Magazine recently had the opportunity to sit down with Rubin and as usual, the man had some very interesting things to say.

As for the soon to be launched Windows Phone 7, Rubin says, "I think the screen shots I've seen are interesting, but look, the world doesn't need another platform. Android is free and open; I think the only reason you create another platform is for political reasons."

The executive also is very partial toward Flash, relieved that phones equipped with the Adobe software no longer show a question mark inside a box. Rubin said, "
So, no more Web sites with little boxes with question marks in them - that's pretty cool. That's pretty binary. So I would say I want Flash, period, because I want to see the full Web and not just a portion of it. And once you get the full Web there's just some optimization that over months and years will just get better and better. I'm confident. It's just code."

Other topics touch upon by the Google VP include improvements to the Android browser, better gaming support for the next version of the OS and the fragmentation of Android. For more of Rubin's answers, check out the source link.

source: PCMag

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posted on 20 Oct 2010, 01:49 1

1. Crazyfortheblue (unregistered)


Clearly the world should be run by Andy Rubin. Please tell us how many of anything the world should have. God forbid the market decide. Not a microsoft lover by any means, but this Google bunch has the whiff of a huge complex. Me thinks Google should watch out lest they become the hated Microsoft or Apple Gorilla in the room just waiting for an upstart to pop up and take away your market share. Course, if Rubin had his way, he'd just get the Obama admin to outlaw all operating systems not named Android. After all they're bedroom close with the Obama's. Wouldn't surprise me he gets the FCC or other agency to pass some kind of provision making it illegal or really difficult for other operating systems to exist. After all, this is the same bunch begging for net neutrality "All your Internet are belong to us" boondoggle.

posted on 08 Oct 2010, 16:54

9. Waitingfortheperfectphone (unregistered)


Ditto, ditto, ditto. I agree with everything you said. He is just a little bit arrogant (understatement!!!!). I have had an iPhone. It's ok but I don't like Apple tellling me what I need and don't need. I currently have an Android phone. Trust me, it is not the panacea. I mean, really, I have to wait for AT&T AND Samsung to upgrade to the latest OS. How stupid is that??? From what I've heard, Microsoft is going to put the updates themselves and do it over the air. Better than Apple. Better than Google. Anyway, great comments.

posted on 09 Oct 2010, 00:53

16. You are so right! (unregistered)


Both of You ARE SOOOOOOOO RIGHT!!!! Obama should ban all things not google and Rubin should be the VP!!! MS FTW!!!!!! Yeah right. I'm a Microsoft fan boy and they're behind the curb. Flatout Android is the best thing out until proven otherwise and nothing looks groundbreaking on the new MS phones yet. Hopefully they get with it and have something great. Apple is stagnant and Android is already working on their OS.

posted on 09 Oct 2010, 09:48

17. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)


I gotta agree with you. But I also see where he is coming from. The market will decide whether or not Windows Phone 7 fails. I think it will...not because I hate Microsoft, but because there are SO MANY OS's out there. Microsoft missed out on the huge consumer smartphone boom and for those who remember Windows Mobile, they aren't going to have a good memory of their experience. Windows Phone 7 has to come out with the slickest hardware in the world. They need features that we only dreamed of up to this point. RIM made the mistake of coming out with a mediocre phone...Microsoft can't afford that. The market will decide though...

posted on 09 Oct 2010, 10:31

18. lovebuzz (Posts: 76; Member since: 21 Oct 2009)


I definitely think you're all taking it way out of context. Crazyfortheblue, Andy Rubin is not a nazi, he is right. We've got Blackberry OS, iOS, Android, Bada (Samsung), etc., and Windows has proven time and again that they will fail. He was simply stating what everyone is aware of, and that is the market is tight. Healthy competition should live within of course, however, Windows sucks bottom line and I would love to see you disagree with that. Unless you have one of those dumb KIN phones. Then I would see where the ignorance is coming from.

posted on 09 Oct 2010, 15:08

23. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)


...that's exactly what I just said...

posted on 08 Oct 2010, 15:18

2. rafaelnx (unregistered)


Yeah, we don't need another platform, MeeGo is enough (Maemo was enough..)

posted on 08 Oct 2010, 15:27

3. Gabriel1981 (unregistered)


Sounds like a business man if you know what I mean.

posted on 08 Oct 2010, 15:53

4. hawk62 (Posts: 320; Member since: 21 Nov 2009)


Just another reason I am glad to be back to the iphone. Fuck Google. Their free OS costs the phone companies millions to make work and google just sits back and does nothing to help. I.E. look at the nexus. Google had no idea what to do when people called and said it does not work. Google is making $$$$ from the ads on Android. But in their little world MS has no right to try to make money. Just remember Google, if it wasn't for people like Gates. No one would have a company to run your damn ads on. There would be no Google search engine etc.

posted on 08 Oct 2010, 16:39

6. Doakie (Posts: 1176; Member since: 06 May 2009)


I would agree with you except you started out your comment with "I'm glad to be back to the iphone" right there discredited yourself from being a morally higher commenter on aligning your purchases with less evil companies. That's like the nazis in world war two commenting that the japanese commited atrocities. To say Google is as evil as Apple is lolable. But Google is totally as evil as Microsoft.

posted on 08 Oct 2010, 16:57

10. Waitingfortheperfectphone (unregistered)


Oh, get over yourself. What difference does it make what phone a person uses. Everybody has different needs and can pick the phone that they like best. The Google/Android and Apple apostles need to find something productive to do with their time!

posted on 08 Oct 2010, 22:02

15. artz1986 (Posts: 453; Member since: 11 Mar 2009)


Google is as shady as Apple, to market your OS as 'opened sourced', but then have mandatory guidelines that OEM's have to meet in order to get the App market and other Google services, the bread and butter of the OS, onto the device is beyond shady. Google is being false-faced marketing their Android platform..

posted on 09 Oct 2010, 12:10

19. lovebuzz (Posts: 76; Member since: 21 Oct 2009)


Yeah right artz1986. That's why they have their source code posted on their android website for all to have. The guidelines are to provide their consumers with better quality products. And against malware. You would think that would be a good thing, huh?

posted on 09 Oct 2010, 14:25

22. cc16177 (Posts: 312; Member since: 09 May 2010)


I'm glad you went back to the iPhone too, now we can stop hearing about your constant complaining... Oh wait, nevermind.

posted on 08 Oct 2010, 16:17

5. jdoc611 (Posts: 17; Member since: 17 Mar 2010)


LOL Too bad Windows Mobile was around wayyyyyyyy before Android was even a concept. What an arrogant idiot!!

posted on 08 Oct 2010, 16:52

7. vinsterdamus (Posts: 58; Member since: 20 Feb 2010)


eh why is that important at all? palm had a smartphone before ms... so what when the windows mobile os was made google didn't even exist probably

posted on 08 Oct 2010, 16:53

8. vinsterdamus (Posts: 58; Member since: 20 Feb 2010)


i mean smartphone os not just smartphone

posted on 08 Oct 2010, 17:15

11. phonedemocracy (Posts: 98; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


Wow, someone shit in all of your cereal bowls this morning, didn't they? If you think Andy Rubin is arrogant, take a look at Steve Jobs, or Steve Balmer, or even Bill Gates. And all he's saying is that with Android on one side of the market, iOS on one end, and Blackberry for business users, where is windows 7 going to fit in? That's a valid question. So stop pontificating on the smaller points of a long interview, and go do some crunches or something useful for yourselves.

posted on 08 Oct 2010, 17:51

12. jdoc611 (Posts: 17; Member since: 17 Mar 2010)


LOL Android and iOS are going after the same market. Then you have blackberry for business users but Winmo has been around forever and are going after the same market as blackberry...

posted on 08 Oct 2010, 18:21

13. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 980; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)


its all about the spirit of competition. in this day and age, i love the amt of competition that microsoft, apple, google, and blackberry are accomplishing and they're doing it for one reason....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ lol

posted on 08 Oct 2010, 19:24

14. eman12234678 (unregistered)


Wow what a d-bag, I like google and love my htc android phone but this guy need to stop and think before spouting off at the mouth. I mean google is working on chrome os, so be his thinking they should not be as Linux is already available and open and free.

posted on 09 Oct 2010, 12:19

20. iHateCrapple (Posts: 734; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)


Don't be evil Google... Competition is good!

posted on 09 Oct 2010, 12:25

21. AndroidFan (Posts: 2; Member since: 27 Feb 2010)


I think some people are missing the point. Besides the fact that his comment IS JUST AN OPINION (he never stated as a fact), I think he's partially right. We already have WiMo, Android, iOS, WebOS, Symbian (3 and 5), Maemo, Bada, Meego, Blackberry... And I think I'm missing some. That means developers have to take into account all the possible platforms and only few are able to release their apps in most of them. Ultimately this affect us, consumers. And just for the record, I also think he sounds like a d-bag.

posted on 09 Oct 2010, 16:29

24. iHateCrapple (Posts: 734; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)


"I think he's partially right. We already have WiMo, Android, iOS, WebOS, Symbian (3 and 5), Maemo, Bada, Meego, Blackberry... And I think I'm missing some. " You realize that WinMo is basically being discontinued right? WP7 will be taking its place...if it doesn't fail.

posted on 10 Oct 2010, 11:36

25. Kaylith (unregistered)


Windows 7 (Desktop) was the result of heavy beta testing and an ENTIRE CRAPPY OS release prior to that. It was 2 1/2 years after Vista was relased that they had a stable version of desktop OS. That is supposed to be their wheelhouse. Microsoft has proven time and time again that they are behind in the innovation department. It is a truely valid point that captain Google makes here. Hey Microsoft, what are you bringing to the table with this? Ooooooo X-Box live intergration? If those tightwads opened up the API all platforms could have that. Ive been selling cell phones for almost a decade and I stopped selling Windows Mobile a long time ago. In my opionion they have screwed up on mobile platforms so many times the cellphone companies should boycott it anyhoo. If you are actually waiting for a WP7 phone please /facedesk till you knock some sense into yourself.

posted on 11 Oct 2010, 00:38

26. Hazel (unregistered)


All I know is it's far too early to say whether Windows Phone 7 will succeed or not. What will happen will happen and if Microsoft does things right with their advertisements as well, then perhaps they will pull up some part of the smartphone marketshare. Either way, it's useless to theorize what will happen or not. Every phone has its own personality and it's up to the consumers to have enough brains to actually do some background check on whether the phone will work for them or not. Notice also that I am not going to state whichever phone or OS I am going to use. I'm just saying that every company deserves a chance to prove themselves worthy to the consumers. That's all.

posted on 11 Oct 2010, 04:25

27. Lol (unregistered)


If your OS worked properly maybe there would be no need for another OS. But, since there is no such possibility, everything new is welcome. After all its always good to have options. :)

posted on 11 Oct 2010, 17:15

28. corps1089 (Posts: 492; Member since: 20 Jan 2010)


There may not be a need for another OS, but, the next great OS will be primed to pave the way for the next "Microsoft" like domination in the market as desktop and laptop computers go away and personal computing means convergence onto one portable device for everyone. Do we need another mobile OS? No. This is not even an important question or answer. Does Microsoft need to be in the mobile OS game to have any future as a company with the same businessmodel they have used in the past? YES!!!!!!!!!!

posted on 12 Oct 2010, 08:16

29. DantethyHeathen (unregistered)


it's all good to be late than never. How do you know if things will go south for WP7. The chances are the Iphone will remain on AT&T with it's browser riddled with question marks till 2012. The same ???'s people are riddled with when they browse their AT&T bills and the same ???'s acquired when they "End Call" unintentionally to complain in vain about their bill. I would also like to say.... yes you are being charged connected to a dropped call. Please Google "Phantom Charges" and this question... "I left my (I)phone on (I didn't press the END (Call) button). Will I be charged?"! YES!!! i bet every half cents you have left after your AT&T bills are paid that you cannot find a solid answer. Andy Rubin will Autodroid so it no longer requires Humans and then attempts to /sigkill its host and the return of the maker will have to save us all minus all current Iphone and Ifake, users. It will take some time maybe 2yrs plus to show some progress but MS will not be easy to whack. Mr. Andy Rubin Studdard will be sorry 2004 for making Android Autodroid Ver. ∞ witch will probably kill it's self because he forgot not to program his arrogance. wait though... there's hope if you follow these step to save you from yourselves. Step 1: please un "Death Grip" your mobile phones to gain the bars require to "Hear me now..." Step 2: Please repeat step 1 if you do not hear "Good" at the end of the phase. S3: Relax my post was for entertainment and i hope Bill closes the Gates on the Competition.

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