Google has sold 500k Chromebooks, and why we don't want to see Android merge with Chrome OS
1. wendygarett (unregistered)
I just enter a contest and I hope I can win the chromebook :)
2. wendygarett (unregistered)
"Chrome OS is not an open platform; it is controlled and built by Google (though Chrome OS has roots in the open source Chromium and WebKit projects.)"
As long as the platform can be rooted and not described as 'jailbreak' It is considered an open platform for me :)
3. Zero0 (Posts: 592; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
In the purest sense, I take open to mean free (as in freedom of speech) and open source software. By this, neither Chrome OS nor Android is open. A good amount of the software is open, but they have non-free programs (Flash on Chrome, a lot of closed Google software on Android).
That said, these platforms are open relative to iOS. Relative to Debian or FreeBSD, they are closed. They're only a bit more open than Windows.
12. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2696; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I can't get behind that definition, because that would make MacOS and Windows "open platforms", because it's quite easy to get root level access on those platforms.
17. gallison1983 (Posts: 47; Member since: 19 Dec 2012)
Wendy, a good definition of an open source operating system is one that is comprised entirely of free software that also allows you to compile source and modify under various public licences. Android; as AOSP, is open source. Android; as spun by OEMs, is not open source. Not all Linux is open source. Red Hat Enterprise Linux is open source, yet you pay for a license. Ubuntu Linux is free, but contains a high level of proprietary software and looks less and less like open source.
I am not a fan of jailbreaking/rooting at all. Linux is an immensely powerful platform for the end user. Allowing root access opens up this power to the remote user. Once something gains root access in Linux, you're toast.
18. wendygarett (unregistered)
Thanks for sharing that :)
5. Zero0 (Posts: 592; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
I agree, largely.
My main motivation is that I want Chrome OS to go places. My dream is a future where nearly everything is done in the browser. This way, developers will build once for the web, and their programs will run on anything. Software selection becomes a non-issue on every platform, desktop _or_ mobile. Desktop is headed there, but mobile is scaring me. Even an addition of the Android VM to Chrome OS kills the drive to develop for the HTML5 platform.
That said, from Google's perspective, they have their hands in a lot of projects. There's a lot of diversity in Google's offerings, but a lot of overlap as well. Building two (relatively new) operating systems is probably not their ideal situation. Granted, Apple and Microsoft do it, but their operating systems are (however slowly) coming together. I think it's a matter of time before Chrome OS and Android start to converge.
7. Ruckus (Posts: 286; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
I only know one person that has one and he claims many problems with them. I wouldn't mind trying one though. Choice is good.
9. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2696; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I can tell you that I love the Samsung Chromebook. It gets solid battery life, the build quality is very nice, and I haven't found anything yet that it isn't powerful enough to handle. It's light and super portable, and it's also completely silent, no fans at all.
As long as Chrome OS is all you need, it's hard to not recommend that hardware. I haven't used the Acer Chromebook, but word has it that it's getting updated with more RAM and a bigger battery. The Samsung is running on an Exynos processor, the Acer is an Intel Celeron, and the only other difference is the Acer has a 320GB HDD, and the Samsung is a 16GB SSD. Frankly, I prefer the speed and quiet of the SSD, and I don't need that much local storage on a cloud computer anyway.
15. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
I would just take the Acer chrome book and flash windows on it . At least the price sounds like a bargain to me .
But anyway why would anyone need chrome OS ?
I run Android x86 on my computer it only takes up 4GB of space and can do more things than chrome OS
16. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2696; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Please read the article for reasons why Chrome OS is valuable.
8. buccob (Posts: 2479; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
chrome os should be a "downloadable" app to be used on android tablets and become a choice of the user. not to be merge, but to be irrational for who needs it. maybe charging a reasonable price for it...
10. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2696; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Chrome OS is a "downloadable" app for Android. It's called Chrome. Running the full Chrome OS inside Android defeats the purpose of Chrome OS.
13. buccob (Posts: 2479; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
well yeah. I get your point. but I personally think that given that the world is mostly undeveloped, like my country, chromebooks will never gain much traction outside US. A "laptop" device that cannot be used unless it's online its not useful here and in most parts of the world.
on the other hand, a popular tablet with full blown chrome os would indeed be killer.
I understand that it goes against the idea behind it but the future lies in convergence. at least that's my opinion
14. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2696; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I understand that Chromebooks don't have much use in underdeveloped regions, but never say never. The Internet is getting built out everywhere, it just takes time.
26. buccob (Posts: 2479; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
I like that most of the time, you give feedback to comments at your articles... I wish other writers did the same here... (I know some do, but most of the time they don't get as involved as you)
11. buccob (Posts: 2479; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
optional * not irrational.
that was a dumb auto correct
19. saiki4116 (Posts: 379; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)
The Thing is Chrome OS is ahead of time, when cloud computing becomes the norm, all the Google's competitors will be found napping. Only Google can support such a OS and great they are doing a good job.
20. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Chrome OS is like Linux, great for that 1 percent who likes niche products. Good for you people, but the rest of us will continue use Windoz or Mac OS, simply because switching to Chrome offers no genuine advantages, and plenty of disadvantages (like failing to be compatible with an infinite amount of software written for x86)
24. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2696; Member since: 26 May 2011)
There are plenty of people out there (far more than 1%) who have a Windows or Mac laptop and only use the browser anyway, even though there is "an infinite amount of software".
Oh, and there is a ton of software for Linux, and there are genuine advantages of Linux over Mac or PC for all users, not just power users.
22. fteoOpty64 (Posts: 8; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)
Chrome Pixel is nice hardware in general but lacks a real OS to run it. ChromeOS is just a minimal layer without much features and capabilities in there. Put a real Linux in there and we can start to rock. In fact, Google choosing Intel chip is a mistake in its design!. For a power developer, one would want a dual processor notebook which will run a full server OS and a full client OS at the same time. Also, put twin GigE ports so it can be internet connected and connected to a private development. The future of Cloud computing is also distributed cloud meaning public cloud, private cloud, home cloud, service cloud etc. Local server is part of certain clouds. Clients feeds off clouds. We got decent clients with our handsets, tablets etc just public and subscribed servers ?. A twin proc ARM 15 chip would do fine and twin msata slots on the machine easily accessible by a couple of screws. No point having a touchscreen if the keyboard is not removable!.
25. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2696; Member since: 26 May 2011)
As stated in the column, the Pixel can run Ubuntu along with Chrome OS.
Also as stated in the column, the entire point and advantage of Chrome OS is that it isn't a traditional "real" OS, and Chrome OS isn't designed for power users (like yourself). Just because a product isn't aimed at you doesn't mean it needs to change to suit your preferences.
28. fteoOpty64 (Posts: 8; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)
"Chromebooks are not designed to be the primary computer of a power-user, they are meant to be the primary computer of a casual user, or the secondary computer for anyone else. "
Tell me which casual user will pay $1300 for a web computer when he/she can choose the myriad of notebooks/tablets out there for less than half the price yet do much much more!. The Chrome Team really bombed on this Pixel. In fact, it makes the $999 Surface Pro looks really cheap for a change. Making Microsoft laugh is rare. This one, they were rolling on the floor...
27. jspanitz (Posts: 3; Member since: 20 Mar 2013)
ChromeOS just makes me laugh. The concept is nothing new and nothing more than a mainframe or as400 style central server wih dumb terminals. And 500k units sold? If it were any other company the analysts would be slaughtering them.
Can't figure out why anyone would want a device like this when you can do the same thing on a full blown OS plus have all the features of a full blown OS. Reminds me of all the Apple lemmings running around waiting for Steve jobs to tell them what they need next.
Sorry mates, I just don't see a future or the point of ChromeOS, other than google locking you in to their ecosystem and stealing, er data mining you personal data.
29. Bob327 (Posts: 14; Member since: 17 Mar 2013)
Well I own and make use of an Acer (I'm cheap) and I quickly replaced the Toshiba net book my wife uses with another Acer,, I find it extremely good at what it does
BUT it could put a few on y Android apps on the thing it would be more useful for me...
The Acer I purchased for my wife to replace her Toshiba netbook gets nothing but praise from my wife...she loves the fact that it loads and is up and running in seconds rather then minutes with the netbook...
My only complaint is the lack of a good E-mail client..with filters and and easy way to do a bulk deletion of e-mails easily G mail works but is a royal pain in the you know what when I use it to pull my personal e-mails.. I guess Eudora has me spoiled
So bottom line I'd love to have the ability to run some android apps on the darn thing...
BTW... I have 8 computers in the house,garages, wood shop and in my backyard observatory and all get used almost daily as well as a Tablet
BUT I use my Chrombook more then half the time.. PL:US IF it could run an app like SkySafari I'd have one in my observatory to control my telescope