First Nokia Windows Phone handsets may arrive in Q1 of 2012
1. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
How stupid can nokia (elop) be ???!!!
They (elop) announced symbian dead 11/2 and WP7 was the way to go. Then it takes 1 year before they can get out their first WP7, and no one is buying their symbian phones anymore, because of their (elops) announcement of killing symbian.
That = massive loss in profit.
2. alpinejason (Posts: 262; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)
well hopefully its because they want the product as perfect as possible and they got one chance to make a good impression on customers.so lets hope it translates to a better product to the end user.
7. rex1213 (Posts: 77; Member since: 29 Jul 2011)
That's because Elop initially planned to destroy Nokia and make it a slave to Microsoft and sell off its smartphone business to Microsoft.
1. Step number one is to bad-mouth Symbian (via that stupid "Burning Platform" memo) and sure enough, Symbian Nokia smartphones took a nose dive in sales and got Nokia struggling deep in the red.
2. Step number two is to find all reasons possible to make internal high-level employees at Nokia to believe that MeeGo is not a viable option for Nokia. Note however that a Nokia engineer working for MeeGo disagreed to EFlop's faulty reasoning on why MeeGo is not a viable option for Nokia and it starts to get a little too fishy now:
Once done, he now has the power to say, "Let's choose Windows Phone!".
You know why? Because ELOP IS NOT ACTING TOWARDS NOKIA'S BEST INTEREST! It is a gift for Microsoft to eliminate MeeGo and bad-mouth Symbian to favor Windows! Look at this tweet from Elop after he announced Nokia's Windows Phone strategy and you will understand that he is undoubtedly a Microsoft Trojan Horse trying to destroy Nokia:
And finally, Microsoft (the EVIL EMPIRE) is currently doing an industry-wide hijack on companies developing an OS based on Linux since they are against Linux since day one. Nokia (with their MeeGo) and HP (with their WebOS) are just victims of Microsoft entryism. See this sites:
Yes, it is all Microsoft's evil deeds. WARNING!
8. rex1213 (Posts: 77; Member since: 29 Jul 2011)
But thanks to Google's buyout of Motorola Mobility, Microsoft decided not to buy Nokia since they want the same business model that they have with the personal computer OS business wherein Windows OS are licensed to OEM's and they want the same thing with WP7.
12. captn3x (Posts: 43; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)
Are you that guy camped outside of area 51 looking for UFOs?lol
14. snowgator (Posts: 3200; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
All of those links, which I will read, seem to be from the same site. So far, I have seen nothing to this except people who love to hate, and those who loved Symbian. When Nokia hired Elop, they knew full well where he came from and what he believed. That was THEIR decision. They had more than one choice. They could have gone in a different direction. Nokia WANTED to be more streamlined, and they wanted to make more profit. A smaller ecosystem will do that. Microsoft was desperate for a greater worldwide foothold. Nokia provided that. They gave each other what the other needed. I am betting 5 years from now, we still have 2 companies that complimate each other.
19. rex1213 (Posts: 77; Member since: 29 Jul 2011)
Jorma Olilla originally wanted Anssi Vanjoki to be Nokia's next CEO in replacement to Olli Pekka Kallasvuo. However, a group of American investors threatened to sack Jorma Olilla if he didn't pick Elop as CEO. Furthermore, the very same group of investors were the ones who pushed the WP7-based strategy. Coincidence? A big NO.
25. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
Actually, it appears that it's in Microsoft's self interest to fully support Symbian! A robust platform that compliments Windows Phone by bringing mobile customers over to Office, Bing, and other complimentary location based services. Clearly this is a plus for the MS ecosystem as its leveraging a huge install base; even though WP market share remains relatively small at this juncture. I suspect this is why loyal Symbian^3 fans will be receiving a slew of Office apps for free. Like runners in a relay race, MS wants this OS transition to be smooth and at maximum speed. Knowing Symbian has a shelf-life makes the commitment that much more plausible.
23. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
First, the title of this article is intentionally misleading. Nokia's CEO just restated that WP plans are on track and it will launch its first "Mango" phones this October in key markets (mostly in Europe), with high volume global scale out within 1Q2012.
As for the "burning platform" memo, I am not a fan at all of this internal communication style. Mostly becasue it was in fact misinterpreted and used against Nokia quite effectively. Symbian certainly has a shelf-life post FEB2011, but the company's strategy clearly reveals that Symbian has become a strategic bridge. A necessary bridge to ensure loyal customers are retained within the next generation ecosystem. Symbian devices will continue to be released until such time that WP can take over price points not covered by s40. At that point, it will go into maintenance mode. In any event, the on-going investments in Symbian (Anna, Belle, Belle successor, Windows Office, etc.) clearly reveal the importance Nokia is placing on this ubiquitous operating system when it comes to retaining its massive install base going forward.
3. JayRaj (Posts: 54; Member since: 31 Oct 2010)
Peter's one of those few comments which didnt contain the word "bada" in it! XD
4. Eingild (Posts: 203; Member since: 19 Apr 2011)
What's taking them so long to release a damn phone? I really hope that this "Nokia WP7" device is not like any other handset out there because if not, then they just took a fool out of themselves believing in this "partnership".
5. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
You know, from what i have hear the first WP7 from nokia will only have 1 ghz snapdragon and 3.7 inch screen = fail !!!
Nokia really has been stupid.
13. jthiagesan (Posts: 104; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)
Your wave 1 and 2 doesn't have big screens in it, but you love it. The same way there will be many people including me will love this. And you can't even love or hate a product without using or watched someone using. So stop praising your bada and stop hating others.
16. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
there will likely be poeple wanting a phone with a 3.7 inch screen. I don't really like hug 4.5 inch screens, for me 4 inch is perfect.
But Nokia doesn't seem to put any high end specifications in their new WP7.
21. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
um they haven't even released any peter so stop reading a book without it being published... yes I agree nokia is taking bait long, but they have to recreate their entire company mainframe to support wp7.. not just a few phones.. also, nokia was on a down spiral long before elop.. and if not for elop, they wud still be using the dying symbian..
22. Nok (unregistered)
Thats cause WP7 doesn't need highend specs to run smoothly and it also saves battery life.
24. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
I'm of the opinion this WP7-mango / "Sea Ray" phone will be positioned in the below premium segment. As for a high end super smartphone, I suspect this will come at the end of 1Q2012 and be competitive spec wise while also supplanting N8 as the premier camera phone. Of course, Nokia has stated its intention to differentiate in both hardware and software, so a button-less (N9 like) Harmattan skin would also not surprise. We shall see.
6. KJ (unregistered)
This is because Australia is not a launch market for Windows Phone models, instead the N9 is being launched in Q4 2011.
10. ryq (unregistered)
more time for samsung and htc to prepare. nokia, loooooooosing!
11. captn3x (Posts: 43; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)
Nokia has officially driven a nail in there own coffin. There only hope was to be first to market with an amazing Windows phone. Now they are going to get lost amongst the clutter of the others. This is the reason they didn't go with Android, too much competition by too many good phones. It was a nice run Nokia, I was so looking forward to what you had to offer.
15. snowgator (Posts: 3200; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Allow me to argue the other side of the thought:
What if they release the Sea-ray world wide in November or so, and it is not a ready for prime time player? How many would jump all over it saying "SEE!! SEE!! THEY ARE NO GOOD!!"
Now, they wait until they are comfortable with their product, which at this point is not really that much longer of a wait. They SHOULD have been more active in getting one to market at the launch of W7 Mango, I totally agree. But they didn't. So might as well wait until you are comfortable. If the HTC and Samsung offerings world wide and the more regional offerings in Japan are well recieved and sell well, I think the Nokia's create more excitment, not less. NOONE says "Crap. This high end Android should have been released before the OTHER high end Android. Now it won't sell." W7 Mango is the same idea. If the OS is succesful, Nokia will be well recieved. Yes, it is a gamble. But the whole THING is a gamble.
Remember what the old shampoo comercial tag-line was? You never get a second chance to make a first impression.
17. Loubie (unregistered)
Mr Elop stepped in at Nokia an we have seen no improvement in Nokia at All,we have had this same situation at Nokia they Promise things an never forefill the promise on time an everytime things keep getting Delayed at Nokia,an they wonder why people keep leaving Nokia, because your company is not Trustworthy at All,we waited for the N8 for 8 months an the Anna update was promised ages ago but its only just been released.Please Grow Up Nokia an be more Trustworthy
18. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6263; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Nokia must be dumb to release Windows 7 2012. When they could of release it for the holidays to earn some real money. And why keep making new SYMBIAN phones when they release it? Looks like they should of gone bankrupt long ago before they sold themselves to M$