Developer of Gravity for Symbian kicked out of Nokia Dev program, won't write for Windows Phone
was strictly a financial one as Suhr stated that he had made all of his money from Symbian and did not expect to get a return on his investment yet from the Windows Phone Marketplace. While taking care of numero uno (and there is certainly nothing wrong with that in this cutthroat business), Nokia had hoped that the developer would align himself with its wishes. Nokia would like to see Symbian users switch to Windows Phone models and felt that it would be an easier decision if certain apps that Symbian users were used to were also found in the Windows Phone Marketplace.
Based on the conversation, it appears that somewhere along the line, possibly after kicking Suhr out of the Developer Program, Nokia tried to entice his return with a free Nokia Lumia phone. He also said that Nokia told him to return when he learns Windows Phone 7. Considering that many call Gravity the best Twitter client ever on any platform, some will see Suhr refusing the goose that lays the golden eggs. But he presumably has done the math in his head and doesn't see the same cash flow from Windows Phone that he had with Symbian. He also has his developer business entirely aligned with Nokia at this point, and in the conversation on Twitter below, he discusses wanting to broaden out to iOS and Android.
source: MyNokiaBlog via WMPoweruser
14. smartphone (Posts: 160; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)
We all are making judgement by listening one side of story.
still we can deduce that he had recieved a free windows phone and was enrolled in nokia developers programme. if still he was not interested in windows phone what option does nokia have.
2. DroogV59 (Posts: 37; Member since: 02 Jun 2011)
Well Android and IOS is where Symbian users are going, so it makes sense for Jan Ole Suhr to transition his development to those platforms instead of WP8.
Sour grapes on Nokia`s part, no doubt with encouragement from Redmond.
19. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)
couldn't agree more.... people that was a "nokia" fan and planning to buy a smartphone will choose iPhone or Android phones instead of windows phone!
why? because people are familiar with icons instead of tiles (even though WP8 looks good)
and most of the apps are present in iPhone and android phone (temple run and instagram for example) unlike on windows phone..
if they will buy a feature phone, they'll choose samsung instead of the asha lines because of, again, apps and ecosystem
if nokia and microsoft will push WP8 on that market only few people might want it.. why? because the things that people like (like bluetooth sharing, mass storage without the help of zune[or if the rumors about the wp8 making it possible to make have bluetooth sharing and mass storage turns to be true then it will be a hit]) wont be available on the OS so they will choose android instead of a windows phone...
if nokia just make the symbian OS as the OS for low end then they will have no problem with it! symbian has a decent app store and people are familiar with it! and even the low end market wants a phone that could multitask, s40 cant do that but symbian can! thats how demanding that market is!
i hold no grudge to microsoft, i love the wp8 and i cant wait to have myself a surface tablet...i only hate what nokia and microsoft's doing... especially on nokia that they kill the father of all OSes, and its latest version (symbian belle fp1) already catch up to android in terms of usability!
i cant wait to get myself a nokia 808 pureview annd nokia N9(because its really unique, but if jolla could make a meego phone available to my country then i think i wont buy the N9) and after that im done with nokia (maybe i'll check a new lumia device with wp8 and pureview if ever they could make one)... but the 808 is currently sold out and out of stocks here in my country!
3. Edmund (Posts: 654; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
gravity is crap. Try Tweetian and fmobi, then see if you go back to gravity.
4. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5749; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Not surprising as Nokia has bet the farm on WP.
Also not surprising is Suhr's decision to broaden his market opportunity with Android and iOS editions of his software.
5. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)
"Take Jan Ole Suhr, developer of the popular Windows Phone Twitter client Gravity. When asked on Twitter if he was planning on developing a version of Gravity for Windows Phone, Suhr responded that he had been kicked out of Nokia's Developer Program because he refused to write for Windows Phone."
you mean developer of popular symbian twitter client gravity...
6. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)
see nokia... a lot of people dont really like the whole Microsoft Partnership... you'll just loose many tech fans and market!!!
why are you so eager to kill symbian as early as now.. i thought you're giving it life until 2016???
just please... put the symbian platform on the low end market.... symbian is better than S40!! and people are more familiar with symbian than windows phone!
i guess there is no stopping on your flopping and falling and failing now...
i dont know if i could still call myself an avid nokia fan! :(
stop this now... i love symbian forever....
7. Jeromeo (Posts: 135; Member since: 11 Jan 2010)
So, why not write for Android? I don't get it?!
8. AeroPrime (Posts: 150; Member since: 21 Feb 2011)
I think this is what i've been seeing Nokia's style of promoting windows phone... i think this is crazy....this is up to developer to develop for windows phone... they have no right to control you that way. It seems to me they are doing monopoly type of way. Kicking people out just because they do not want to develop a particular app for one OS.
9. allen83 (Posts: 107; Member since: 01 Mar 2012)
Nokia today is a long gone! Good thing i bought a N9 rather than a windows phone begging to have an application. Symbian is much in a healthier situation when Elop was not around. Windows i don't know if they would succeed if their attitude to developers or carriers is like that nobody would appreciate them.
10. kanagadeepan (Posts: 667; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)
Gravity is one of the very few best apps in Symbian... I will buy it, if Gravity is released in Android for sure... Most Symbian Apps either looks unfinished or a few features missed... Except few apps like Gravity, JoikuSpot, etc...
@Suhr... Welcome to Android (and iOS too, though I won't be using it)...
11. g_mosh (Posts: 2; Member since: 22 Jul 2012)
And Gravity was (Last time I used a Symbian device) a trully awesome twitter client.
12. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
In such a difficult situation where Nokia need the support of developers, behaving like this is a waste of time and money. What Nokia did to this guy is not fair, I would encourage him to develop apps for iOS and Android, make money from them. And get back to Windows Phone.
13. Techno (Posts: 6; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Why doesn't another company buy Symbian? Symbian is a good OS and can flourish. I believe that!
21. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)
you said it better, but i want symbian to stay with nokia coz im so delusional i want nokia to own forever what they own :P ... but since nokia is killing it completely, i think its is really ok that they should sell it to other company!
BUT who will buy it??? its market is really declining and it will be a waist of money and time if other company will buy it!
so if i were nokia CEO i am going to support the OS forever... we need to have a back up OS or at least make it as the OS for low end market... not the new s40 thingy... they could make s40 for super low end market... on the bar phones and touch and type phones at price $80/$75 and below phones and symbian as the OS for $150 - $95 phones!!! and make the WP as the OS for midrange and high end..
and make the new linux OS(if ever they are REALLY making one, from the smarterphone team) as the back up for windows phone! and the OS for all level too! $130 and above phones!
15. Shubham412302 (Posts: 298; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
gravity is the best fb and twitter app ever
i would like it to see for android
16. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 819; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)
Lol @ Gravity being the best twitter app, its nowhere near it when compared to alternatives in Android, but i guess it is the best if you're using Symbian. :)
20. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)
well its because twitter has no official client for symbian platform only in the suck s40!
17. Roomaku (Posts: 278; Member since: 06 Feb 2012)
I wish sybian had a better font, I know that sounds petty but if they used Nokia pure or something it would just look so much more modern...
18. Edmund (Posts: 654; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
For every "Jan Ole Suhr" there are 10 fresh faced developers waiting to take his place. I'm sure he'll make money on IOS but android is just a waste of resources. .