Analyst sees Apple selling 40 million iPad minis in first year
The latest speculation calls for Apple to hold an event on September 12th at which time the Cupertino based firm will not only show off the 6th generation of the Apple iPhone, but will also introduce the iPad mini. Like many other Wall Street researchers, the analyst says that his checks of Apple's supply chain show that the September 12th event will be about more than just the new iteration of Apple's iconic smartphone, but he is not sure if the other device to be introduced will be a smaller version of the iPad or just a "refresh" version of the current model.
1. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
The only place where apple has the upper hand over google's tab is in Apps.
Everything thing else... no.
Nexus 7 will be better than the iPad mini in all other catagories.
2. parvsingh05 (Posts: 98; Member since: 11 Jan 2012)
begining of bad days for all 7 inches tab is near. if this thing is there in real.
26. MeoCao (unregistered)
iPad mini cannot compete with N7, instead it will cannibalize 10" iPad sales.
30. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Yeah, it definitely won't be as simple as the article puts it - just add ten more billions revenue for apple.
IPad mini has a chance to become a next big thing, picking up all the buzz and gravity for the tech snobs.
I can definitely see it taking a big chunk out of iPad' sales.
56. parvsingh05 (Posts: 98; Member since: 11 Jan 2012)
see i dont really think because it will not have all those features of 10" ipad. N7 is a great tablet. but the truth is that people trust apple ( blindly) its going to be dificult for asus's N7 to compete with it. but there is another huge fan following of samsung, it would have been intresting if samsung had made this Nexus 7.
75. andro. (Posts: 1990; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Agreed it will cannibalise the larger ipad sales but also its pretty much guaranteed that 30-40% percent of those 40 million ipad mini sales are gonna be bought by ifans who already have bought the current ipad and/or ipod touch.
4. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
It will. Superior screen, better ecosystem, superior battery life, innovative display technology, premium materials and build quality and at least twice the graphics power of the Nexus 7 (A5 allready has).
And apps are one of the most important things. That's basically what you can do with your tablet.
6. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
"Nexus 7 will be better than the iPad mini in all other catagories"
LOL not a chance. The post above me pretty much nailed it. I just wouldn't say "innovative" display, but it will definitely have the far superior display.
8. kemjus (Posts: 32; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
You really cannot say who is better... I have both the ipad 3 and Transformer prime. Both awesome devices and both superior in certain aspects. ipad is superior and smart because they target what most people do on the tablet... simple feature apps and games. Their app store is way larger and screen is gorgeous. On the flip side Android has no limitations, it runs everything decent while on the ipad it either runs awesome or doesn't run at all. My ipad works with hardly any of my automated home systems or server applications while android works with all flawlessly. Android is more for the tech crowd (linux) and ios is more for the average user.
12. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4201; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
How can you say that when it's not even released yet? Hardly any specs have been rumored, much less confirmed.
17. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
You're right. I'm using the rumors as basis: 7.85 inch screen, 1024x756 resolution and very thin.
19. Zero0 (Posts: 592; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
So a 4:3 aspect ratio is superior then? Seeing as it's only an 8 inch screen, those black bars around videos will make a pretty sizable impact.
24. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4201; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
How does that have a superior screen than the Nexus then? Bigger size, the same basic resolution (720p) and most likely same screen technology (IPS LCD). As for your battery life assumption, we don't know the size of the battery, or how it will fair since it will most likely have LTE, and a last-gen processor.
14. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
how do you know about this? are there iOS apps optimized for 7" to begin with? there are already Apps optimized for 7" tablets as android has 2 years on this size. I see so many flaws on your argument
16. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
There are about 1000 apps officially optimised for tablets in Android. Congratulations... There are reasons besides hardware why the iPad is around 65 percent of the market share, while Google's Android is 23 and falling.
While the iPad mini offers 66% of the space of a 9.7 model and it supports the same resolution. So there is no need for further optimisation.
22. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
where is the source to back your 100 apps statement?
if that was as simple as you claim.. yet why Jobs said 7" would have issued with the apps? you sure you know what you are talking about?
65%? last time I checked is was 50% and we have yet to see what happens with the overwhelming nexus sales, and positive reviews, a device that in many aspects is much better than the fire
33. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
can you tell me where you get 50% ? show your source. since you recently checked
36. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
here i did it for you...
see how is going up standing now at 62%..
38. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
yeah because Jan 2012 is July 2012 thanks for showing me old stats
37. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
41. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
the second link is from June 15 2012.. gave you both so you can see how is been growing.. your link was about 5.000 people interview.. but fine google it and you will find more links that make my market share at about 60%
42. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
second link was a prediction READ
"iPad *forecasted* (gasp!) to snatch market share from Android tablets this year"
that means the number is not real but someone thinks is possible, so I dint even though it was worth mentioning it.
so you are saying that my post with a survey (yes number is low, but you don't seem to care if the number favors the Apple) so we have you fighting a survey with old numbers and a prediction? sorry not worth my time
44. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
well your post doesnt exactly prove anything either.. a small survey.. ohh yes.. i told you to google it for more accuracy.. but of course not worth your time since you will be prove wrong..
46. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I can be proven wrong any time, (I'm a human after all) but its not my job to prove myself wrong... is yours
85. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
68% reported by PA.. gallito 1 protozeloz 0
86. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
actually more like Gallito 1 protozeloz 23465 but hey I cant get them right all the time can I?
66. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1420; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Just for the shake of the argument, and probably more out of luck than knowledge, as he repeats the same things all the time: gallitoking is for once right.
I was doubting if to post it here, as it´s going to give him petrol to keep on going, but at the end I like the truth above any fanboyism.
iPad will probably take over 65% in quarter 2:
I know it´s only shipments, but it gives already a good estimate.
28. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"There are about 1000 apps officially optimised for tablets in Android."
Could you show me source of this info?
Or you will fail again by providing proves?
18. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
Okay, now you're getting a little annoying. Don't make me turn back into a raging Fandroid. :P
65. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4712; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Will it have the Nexus' price point. I don't think so because Apple is not like that. Price is the biggest differentiator.
82. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
I have very good news for you.
1. I was right from the beginning. This nonsense poll is actually inaccurate, the official statistics on this site show a huge market gain with the iPad jumping to nearly 70%. This is making this discussion obsolete.
2. Of course, the 1000 was a guess. There is no opportunity to count them and 1%-saves-all-Jelly Bean does not change anything. Here a few details - after reading, you can guess how many and, much more important, which quality those apps are.
10. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4201; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Apps aren't really important. Considering a report says that only 250,000 of the 650,000 apps in the App Store are actually downloaded by users.
15. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
It is as if i would say our brains are not that important cause we use only few areas.
21. Zero0 (Posts: 592; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
The saying that "you only use 10% of your brain" is a myth. You use the whole thing.
25. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4201; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Not really. Apple brags about having the largest app selection, and more than half of them aren't even used. And we use all the areas of our brains, just not all at one time.
31. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
I don't believe that report entirely, but if you've owned a HC tab, you'll know the difference of app support on Android HC.
34. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Then what do you do on you're tablet?
35. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Hahaha great point. Apps don't matter? Come one fandroids lol
40. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
This is what I mean.
43. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
So what do you do on a tablet if you don't use apps? Why the double post? Your phone force close on you?
47. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
I literally JUST answered your question with that link, but I guess because you can't think freely, I'll have to explain it to you. What I blatantly stated twice was that the amount of apps aren't really a factor in smartphone debates anymore. This is backed up by the link that I posted twice (which, by the way, I did so that you and nnaatthhaann would both get notifications from this topic). My phone NEVER force closes like my iPod Touch did.
63. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Apps make the tablet, yes there's lots of apps that arent popular and not used, but that doesn't change the fact that without apps your stuck with a device that can do very little.
67. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4712; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Yeah just like 400,000 apps on the App Store have never been downloaded. lol
Yeah apps make the device....SURE!!!!!
50. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
Web browsing...? I'd say that's just as important, if not, more important than Apps..
70. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4712; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
BINGO. People like the Web, YouTube, & maybe reading on their tablets. You can do that with no apps, just go to the World Wide Web.
All the worlds information at your finger tips, literally.
78. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Really I though fandroids said you need multitasking, micro sd, widgets, side loading apps
Now you jsut need a web browser and youtube?
79. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
If you read the entire conversation, you know know that we were arguing why Apps are not as substantial to the user by referencing alternatives that achieve a better overall user experience (i.e. Engadget App compared to real Engadget website). MircoSD, multi-tasking have virtually nothing to do with apps, other than storage, but that doesn't determine the quality of the actual app. Plus, android does multi-tasking better than iOS anyway.
59. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Web browsing and watching videos and playing games...personally I prefer the full web over apps...no doubt iPad has the superior app ecosystem but hopefully the n7 will success will mean better apps
39. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
This is what I mean.
60. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
I'm not talking about app count.
I guess you don't own a HC tablet? Just open the play store on a HC tablet and compare it to the phone version. The amount of apps that have been optimized is gross.
62. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
Honeycomb is the Vista of Android. I have an ICS tablet and every app I have downloaded has run fine.
64. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I have ICS on my Galaxy 7.7 tab and I have to deal with constant lag and force closes.
68. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4712; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Yeah you do like we believe that. lol Well I have a new iPad & it burned my leg because of how hot it got. After a hour of use it becomes impossible to hold.
What apps are you using that you get force closes? I haven't had any app force close unless you are using a Gingerbread app on ICS. Just like I will get a force close using an ICS app on Jelly Bean.
Once the app supports the OS you NEVER get force closes. Android moves so fast that, it's one of those little things that you deal with. If it's a reputable app it gets updated in mere days.
NO PROBLEM, why do you have a PROBLEM?