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After winning $368 million from Apple in court, VirnetX back again for more

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After winning $368 million from Apple in court, VirnetX back again for more
Just last week, a small Nevada based company called VirnetX won a $368 million judgment against Apple. Apple was alleged to have infringed on four patents related to a method that establishes a secure communication link between two devices. The suit claimed that Apple's FaceTime video chat service infringed on the patents. Apple said in its defense that even if its engineers used the technology described in the patent, it was a small part of very large, complex products and was used inadvertently. According to an attorney who represented VirnetX during the trial, Apple's developers apparently testified that they didn't look at patents while developing FaceTime.

VirnetX says FaceTime infringes on its patents

VirnetX says FaceTime infringes on its patents

With that in mind, VirnetX is seeking to mine some more gold from Apple. Clutching the same IP it used to win the first case, the company now alleges that Apple's newer products also infringe on the patents. These devices are the Apple iPhone 5, the fourth-generation Apple iPad, the Apple iPad mini, the 5th generation Apple iPod touch and the newest Mac computers. Any Apple device that supports the FaceTime video chat feature that wasn't part of the first suit, is part of the second one.

The new suit was filed the very same day that VirnetX won the first case. In the new suit, VirnetX is seeking a preliminary injunction against the devices allegedly infringing on the patents, as well as damages. The patents involved in the new suit as well as the previous one, are U.S. Patent numbers 6,502,135, 7,418,504, 7,921,211 and 7,490,151.

source: AppleInsider

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posted on 10 Nov 2012, 04:09 48

1. Topcat488 (Posts: 1396; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


Well They do have a point here... If the patent is violated again and again, you must pay accordingly... Anybody up for dessert; I want more Apple pie please....

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 04:43 30

10. MeoCao (unregistered)


But before having the pie one must put apple into an oven.

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 05:11 20

15. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1236; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


Round 2...Ding! Ding! Ding!

Oh by the way I just LLLOOOOVVVVEEEEE Pies baby...especially Apple Pie :)

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 07:12 2

24. lyndon420 (Posts: 4729; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


My favorite.

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 09:02 1

35. Googlethis (Posts: 179; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


some one said pie. APPLE PIE!!!!!

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 10:38 2

49. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


+1 on a second helping of dessert (Thumbup!). If the roles were reversed, Apple would be going for a sales ban.

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 11:16 2

52. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 15408; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Violation? This is patent abuse and pure greed. I think the case should be tossed out and Apple countersue.

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 11:33 9

53. tedkord (Posts: 12857; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Your hypocrisy is duly noted.

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 11:36 6

54. Googlethis (Posts: 179; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


You do realise that apple does the same exact thing this company is doing. So with your logic anything apple does is golden meaning that if they sue a company regardless of evidence they should win and if a company sues apple for patent infringment that company's claim should be tossed out and counter sued for wasting apples time. your mind is a bit warped.

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 13:42 1

65. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 15408; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Patent abuse. Why aren't they going after other video calling services?

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 12:30 3

60. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Your hypocrisy amuses me now. HAHA

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 12:32 1

61. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


Looks like virnetX is becoming more like apple by the case

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 12:56 1

64. Spariant (Posts: 12; Member since: 09 Mar 2012)


I think samsung should buy this small company and sue apple's a$$!

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 14:13 8

66. matrix_neo (Posts: 334; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)


Who started abusing patents?! Rectangular shape with rounded corners? They don't sue other video calling services because they are like apple, suing only those who threaten the sales of their products. Remember what apple has been doing to Samsung? Is Apple should not be sued even it infringe ip's of other companies? Is apple above the law?

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 14:44 2

69. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)


If they've won against Apple, they will probably file suit against the other companies very soon.

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 15:03

70. LionStone (Posts: 777; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)


Which is to assume that the other companies are infringing on said patents.

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 17:19 1

74. AnTuTu (Posts: 1580; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)


I am up for the "Apple pie" :)

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 18:04 2

75. someones4 (Posts: 625; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


Because they hate Apple that's why. And they have enough money to pay, so why not?

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 18:29

76. Droiddoes (unregistered)


Can I buy some pot off of you, mxy? That has got to be some amazing ish.

posted on 11 Nov 2012, 00:00 1

79. GeekMovement (unregistered)


Guys, he's brainwashed. He doesn't understand the word hypocrisy.

posted on 11 Nov 2012, 15:02

84. gothicheart (Posts: 83; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


unless of course, those other companies know how to respect and appreciate the innovation of others, it's only apple that copies and patent these innovation, for christsakes, even their best-selling products has a copied name....

posted on 11 Nov 2012, 20:06

85. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


It's their wish to decide but you are right it is {ATENT ABUSE ... by Apple though :D

posted on 11 Nov 2012, 20:08

86. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Apple plays role model for all when it comes to "GREED" driven actions :)

posted on 12 Nov 2012, 03:27

87. letgomyeggroll (Posts: 138; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)


Its a cat and mice game. Apple is the big cat and the others are the mouse. They are after Apple to show them that they are the innovation company. So these little companies are the big keys the patent of them all.

And besides, the others are using a third party for the video chatting. Unlike Apple, they are not claiming the innovations.

posted on 12 Nov 2012, 03:28

88. letgomyeggroll (Posts: 138; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)


Hey dummy, why don't you count how many lawsuits that Apple has right now pending alone?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted on 12 Nov 2012, 03:31

89. letgomyeggroll (Posts: 138; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)


They wont file law suit against other companies just Apple. They started all this, and Im sure others are giving Virtex the courage and boost to go after Apple.

And like I said the companies arent developing the Video Chat, they just let the app enable in the device thats all

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 04:10 21

2. dan86 (Posts: 298; Member since: 17 Mar 2012)


Hunter turns prey. God bless Apple! Looks good days gone in hell:)

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 04:14 15

3. ramonleonjr62 (Posts: 48; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


keeping rolling an more to come

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 04:23 14

4. Max_Boost (Posts: 101; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


Hahaha. Talk about iPwnage. Hahaha

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 04:24 16

5. 8logic (Posts: 150; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)


the chickens are coming home to roost

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