AT&T blessing the skies of 6 more cities with LTE today

3. willardcw4 posted on 20 Nov 2011, 10:25 2 0

I live in Vegas too.. I think I'll wait for a better LTE phone to come out on AT&T..

27. nexusISbleh posted on 20 Nov 2011, 18:31 3 0

It's not even about speed what I really care about is dependability. Why don't these companies invest in coverage over speed, like a full signal strength of even sprint can stream netflix just fine but most of the time the coverage just bounces...WTF??

40. The_Miz posted on 21 Nov 2011, 01:36 1 2

Why downgrade to an inferior phone?

4. Mojobobo posted on 20 Nov 2011, 10:31 0 0

you are definitely right, but there are some markets like up in minnesota where its snows about this season, so its gonna be a little tough to have them light up the LTE out there faster than what you would want

32. ardent1 posted on 20 Nov 2011, 19:41 1 0

After ATT acquires T-mobile, it will be a different ball game.

41. The_Miz posted on 21 Nov 2011, 01:38 1 1

Riight, because Verizon has to do something with the money they scre...I mean make off their suc...I mean customers with their high priced plans. They totally updated their network with tiered data lol.

44. Goldeneye posted on 21 Nov 2011, 10:15 0 0

well at&t isn't exactly cheaper either, they spend more on Apple and buying small carriers than on its network.

46. remixfa posted on 21 Nov 2011, 12:07 1 0

yet, ATT charges the same and has a crappier network than Tmobile. So if VZW customers are suckers.. what are ATT customers?? lol.

9. twenti7 posted on 20 Nov 2011, 11:33 0 0

I'm still waiting for ATT to get 3G coverage in my part of Wisconsin.

19. Skyrim posted on 20 Nov 2011, 14:55 0 0

Me too i live kind of in up north minnesota so i only get like 1 to 2 bars of signal but go into minneapolis a lot in the summer so im hoping they expand LTE there

21. bigdawg23 posted on 20 Nov 2011, 16:15 0 0

Yeah, I go to Rock Falls a few times a year and 94 outside of Hudson until Menominee rolls to Edge.


Two different Corp. Stores in the Twin Cities claim LTE will be active by Summer 2012. Luckily I get 7-15MB with my Skyrocket, so a little longer is no big deal. I blows away Sprint WiMax and hangs with VZW LTE on Download. .

30. Mojobobo posted on 20 Nov 2011, 19:23 0 0

ATT Store Manager told me MPLS/TWIN CITIES will get LTE first half of 2012.

17. nickjjay posted on 20 Nov 2011, 14:31 0 0

Or maybe if the ATT merger doesn't go thru, you guys can merge with sprint instead. At least that would get approved by the FCC.

45. theoak posted on 21 Nov 2011, 10:32 0 0

I am not sure if the argument is they can't have LTE. I think the argument is that AT&T will not be competitive. By adding T-Mobile, they will have greater market penetration.

If anything ... adding LTE now may help them to the point of "see ... we WOULD add LTE to this market or that market ... but we can't ... unless we had T-Mobile of course ..."

47. remixfa posted on 21 Nov 2011, 12:10 0 0

the biggest argument in the merger is that they cant have enough spectrum to have an LTE rollout without the merger. Tmo has lots of usable LTE spectrum.
Of course, those pesky real internal documents showed that ATT has been trying to hide pieces of unused spectrum to make themselves look more dire than they were.

The merger will go through. politicians are easily bought off, and they already were. But i think it has more to do with staying ahead of VZW in customers than trying to build a better network than VZW. just my 2 cents anyways.

23. networkdood posted on 20 Nov 2011, 16:35 0 0

Verizon does not keep all of it profits as approx 45% go to VODAPHONE...

28. Droid_X_Doug posted on 20 Nov 2011, 18:39 0 0

Ummm. Profits are what is left over after everything is said and done (including deduction of amortized capital investment in LTE network). Vodaphone only gets 45% of whatever is left after VZW's business operation gets first call on the cash.

34. ardent1 posted on 20 Nov 2011, 19:44 0 0

Under US GAAP, they don't "amortize" PPE (i.e. plant, property, equipment).

I have no idea where you get your answers from.

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37. Droid_X_Doug posted on 20 Nov 2011, 22:58 0 0

So, are you saying that under GAAP, they get to expense PPE? Either way (expense vs. amortize), the cost of the LTE infrastructure gets covered before 'profits' are paid to shareholders.

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42. ardent1 posted on 21 Nov 2011, 09:27 0 0

> So, are you saying that under GAAP, they get to expense PPE?

I am not saying it; FASB is saying it. Amortizing refers to "killing off" such as a loan balance, etc. Before, FASB allowed companies to amortize Goodwill, Intangibles, etc. as these are subject to impairment charges.

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13. biophone posted on 20 Nov 2011, 13:40 4 2

Verizon is a lot better then at&t and doesn't cost much more. I don't know why anyone gets at&t unless they for some reason get good coverage in their area but thats rare and once you get out of that area that coverage is gone. If you want to save money get t-mobile or sprint the coverage is almost as good as at&t for a lot less money.

15. Jyakotu posted on 20 Nov 2011, 14:03 3 0

Verizon and AT&T has the same prices, expect their data plans are different. There is nothing wrong with AT&T at all because I was able to travel in different states with solid coverage. I have Sprint now and I'm lucky to pull 2-3 bars in my own house.

35. biophone posted on 20 Nov 2011, 19:45 0 0

The problem with at&t is there insane prices considering they offer similar coverage to sprint and t-mobile. They are a joke. The coverage maps prove it.

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36. biophone posted on 20 Nov 2011, 19:54 0 0

http://www.cellularmaps.com/3g_compare.shtml

Notice at&t mostly just has 2g coverage.

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25. alpinejason posted on 20 Nov 2011, 17:05 0 3

sprint better coverage for alot less money BETTER COVERAGE HA HA HA YEAH RIGHT WHAT PLANET ARE YOU LIVING ON!!!!!

33. biophone posted on 20 Nov 2011, 19:43 1 0

Lol learn how to read. I said almost as good coverage and its true its a fact look at a coverage map.

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24. remixfa posted on 20 Nov 2011, 16:39 0 0

might be a spectrum issue. they also gave it to puerto rico over LA and other markets.

29. Droid_X_Doug posted on 20 Nov 2011, 18:43 0 1

More likely it is an implementation complexity issue. AT&T doesn't want to have any f*ck-ups right now to get in the way of their attempt to get approval of their purchase of T-Mo. A replay of the network failure that AT&T incurred when the iPhone was exclusive to AT&T is NOT what they want right now. L.A. is a wee bit more complex of an implementation than Puerto RIco.

38. remixfa posted on 20 Nov 2011, 23:14 0 0

Xdoug, now that you mention it, that would be EXACTLY what they would want. They keep telling the FCC that they cant get good LTE without the Tmo spectrum from the merger. The worse their network looks as they build it out, the better their case.. n vice versa.
hmm...

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39. Droid_X_Doug posted on 20 Nov 2011, 23:32 0 0

Reverse psychology can back-fire on you. Especially when the intended audience doesn't trust you to begin with. U.S. DOJ and FCC don't seem to be buying what AT&T is a sellin. Your job at T-Mo may be secure for the moment.

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48. remixfa posted on 21 Nov 2011, 12:11 0 0

they were already caught bribing 90 democrat politicians involved in the merger approval. Its going through. Dont let a little bad press fool ya. my job is less secure than Obama's.

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26. aztaxia12295 posted on 20 Nov 2011, 17:58 0 0

YEAH AND THEY WON THE WORLD SERIES WTFBBQ???

31. Sniggly posted on 20 Nov 2011, 19:31 0 0

That was actually pretty f**king awesome to watch. I'm a proud owner of a world series hat now. :D

50. Goldeneye posted on 21 Nov 2011, 12:22 0 0

well Kansas City is MO biggest city, metro area wise? yes St Louis is the biggest