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stferrari
stferrari
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• 1w agoedited
↵TuGa121 said:

You have yet to provide an answer to the primary question.

Please provide a valid justification for your claim that pixel cameras are superior, considering the information available on DXOMARK.

I did answer your question, please reread the post string. To summarize, my claim was based on my misreading the chart and looking at the Iphone 16 Pro Max. They have not tested the Iphone 17 Pro Max so we will have to wait until they do so. You can't use the 17 Pro as a judge of the 17 Pro Max as they are not the same camera configuration. When I make an error, I acknowledge it. I think any phone it the top percentile of the chart would satisfy 95% of mobile users so I really don't care who is better than who. Even my wife's son who has an Iphone 15 Pro and has always had Iphones thinks my S25 Ultra takes just as good of pictures as his Iphone. I just isn't that big of a deal to most people but I understand to you and a smsll minority the world revolves around the camera and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

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TuGa121
TuGa121
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• 1w ago
↵stferrari said:

I did answer your question, please reread the post string. To summarize, my claim was based on my misreading the chart and looking at the Iphone 16 Pro Max. They have not tested the Iphone 17 Pro Max so we will have to wait until they do so. You can't use the 17 Pro as a judge of the 17 Pro Max as they are not the same camera configuration. When I make an error, I acknowledge it. I think any phone it the top percentile of the chart would satisfy 95% of mobile users so I really don't care who is better than who. Even my wife's son who has an Iphone 15 Pro and has always had Iphones thinks my S25 Ultra takes just as good of pictures as his Iphone. I just isn't that big of a deal to most people but I understand to you and a smsll minority the world revolves around the camera and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

"You can't use the 17 Pro"

Are you seriously making excuses? You can definitely use the 17 Pro, and it outperformed the Pixel. This is the issue I have with FAN GIRLS is that they always provide excuses. This is why most of the FAN GIRLS are not worth my time. They offer excuses after excuses after excuses. This is the typical FAN GIRL attitude 100%. Be a man and admit the 17 pro cracked that ass and so will the 17 pro max its the same camera system.

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TuGa121
TuGa121
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• 1w ago
↵stferrari said:

I did answer your question, please reread the post string. To summarize, my claim was based on my misreading the chart and looking at the Iphone 16 Pro Max. They have not tested the Iphone 17 Pro Max so we will have to wait until they do so. You can't use the 17 Pro as a judge of the 17 Pro Max as they are not the same camera configuration. When I make an error, I acknowledge it. I think any phone it the top percentile of the chart would satisfy 95% of mobile users so I really don't care who is better than who. Even my wife's son who has an Iphone 15 Pro and has always had Iphones thinks my S25 Ultra takes just as good of pictures as his Iphone. I just isn't that big of a deal to most people but I understand to you and a smsll minority the world revolves around the camera and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

"You can't use the 17 Pro as a judge of the 17 Pro Max as they are not the same camera configuration"

How can you use that as excuse ?

Its the same device same cameras. This is the issue with FAN GIRLS always a FN excuse.

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TuGa121
TuGa121
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• 1w ago
↵stferrari said:

I did answer your question, please reread the post string. To summarize, my claim was based on my misreading the chart and looking at the Iphone 16 Pro Max. They have not tested the Iphone 17 Pro Max so we will have to wait until they do so. You can't use the 17 Pro as a judge of the 17 Pro Max as they are not the same camera configuration. When I make an error, I acknowledge it. I think any phone it the top percentile of the chart would satisfy 95% of mobile users so I really don't care who is better than who. Even my wife's son who has an Iphone 15 Pro and has always had Iphones thinks my S25 Ultra takes just as good of pictures as his Iphone. I just isn't that big of a deal to most people but I understand to you and a smsll minority the world revolves around the camera and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Same camera setup. Whats the next excuse ?

https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-17-pro-max,iphone-17-pro,iphone-17

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stferrari
stferrari
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• 1w ago
↵TuGa121 said:

Same camera setup. Whats the next excuse ?

https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-17-pro-max,iphone-17-pro,iphone-17

OK .let's assume that DXOMARK will rate the Iphone 17 Pro Max better than the Pixel. Don't care, dont own either phone and dont plan to so it is of less than no importance to me. The Chinese manufacturers are wiping the floor with Apple in DXOMARKs ratings so Apple still has a way to go to claim the crown. Still dont care.

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TuGa121
TuGa121
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• 1w agoedited
↵stferrari said:

OK .let's assume that DXOMARK will rate the Iphone 17 Pro Max better than the Pixel. Don't care, dont own either phone and dont plan to so it is of less than no importance to me. The Chinese manufacturers are wiping the floor with Apple in DXOMARKs ratings so Apple still has a way to go to claim the crown. Still dont care.

Why engage in conversation? This is my primary concern with FAN GIRLS. You first misinterpret the scores and then claim they cannot compare to the 17 pro because the 17 pro max have different cameras. Have you realized that in the past four to five statements you made, you had no idea what you were saying? Have you come to the realization of that? This is an exceptional example of a typical FAN GIRL attitude.

In no way am I criticizing you or anything, but it appears that you are similar to many of the FAN GIRLS here who lack a comprehensive understanding of your statements.

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stferrari
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• 1w agoedited
↵TuGa121 said:

Why engage in conversation? This is my primary concern with FAN GIRLS. You first misinterpret the scores and then claim they cannot compare to the 17 pro because the 17 pro max have different cameras. Have you realized that in the past four to five statements you made, you had no idea what you were saying? Have you come to the realization of that? This is an exceptional example of a typical FAN GIRL attitude.

In no way am I criticizing you or anything, but it appears that you are similar to many of the FAN GIRLS here who lack a comprehensive understanding of your statements.

Like hell you aren't and you are right, why engage in conversation with a person I have absolutely no respect for and is bragging abouf technology that I and people like me created. I started designing computers inthe early 1970s on a NCR model Century 300 mainframe when we were still using punch cards, papers tape, core memory and TTL logic. The Iphone 16 Pro and Pro Max share the same hardware also but interestingly have two completely different camera scores on DXOMARK so how do you explain that. Something must be different like the software processing so my point was let's wait and see. Either way I'm done with you.

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TuGa121
TuGa121
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• 1w ago
↵stferrari said:

Like hell you aren't and you are right, why engage in conversation with a person I have absolutely no respect for and is bragging abouf technology that I and people like me created. I started designing computers inthe early 1970s on a NCR model Century 300 mainframe when we were still using punch cards, papers tape, core memory and TTL logic. The Iphone 16 Pro and Pro Max share the same hardware also but interestingly have two completely different camera scores on DXOMARK so how do you explain that. Something must be different like the software processing so my point was let's wait and see. Either way I'm done with you.

You have provided the rationale. Historically, the Pro Max consistently outperforms the Pro in terms of scoring. Therefore, you can utilize the 17 Pro score as a benchmark. However, I find it difficult to believe that you have taken any actions that align with your claims. When confronted with direct questions, your responses lack substance, similar to other individuals who profess to be engineers but lack the necessary knowledge to substantiate their statements.

I would be done also you just proved to me you are a fake and not credible. Have a nice day. Typical fan girl talks just to talk. SMH

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J2017
J2017
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• 1w ago
↵ErikOiseaux said:

See these posts are the reason we can’t have civil discussions. Why would you say that? He’s not buying a camera only, he’s buying an ecosystem. Onferior? Android phones are still playing catchup with video capabilities to iPhone. That has never been topped yet. Photos is the only thing that I see Apple loosing in phone arena comparisons. But people use their phones for million other things for which iOS wins for me all the time.


stop attacking people for what they buy with their own money.

Quite a few Chinese brands have surpassed Iphone in video especially at night. A cursory search on YouTube and you will see for yourself

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stferrari
stferrari
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• 1w ago
↵TuGa121 said:

You have provided the rationale. Historically, the Pro Max consistently outperforms the Pro in terms of scoring. Therefore, you can utilize the 17 Pro score as a benchmark. However, I find it difficult to believe that you have taken any actions that align with your claims. When confronted with direct questions, your responses lack substance, similar to other individuals who profess to be engineers but lack the necessary knowledge to substantiate their statements.

I would be done also you just proved to me you are a fake and not credible. Have a nice day. Typical fan girl talks just to talk. SMH

Typical ignorat person who has no idea to whom he is speaking. I dont need your validation as everone who knows me knows ths truth. I can back up my claim with white papers, industry awards, etc. Want to provide me an load link and I will be glad to make you eat your words with this proof. You are just an evil person.

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