Would you buy a phone with no wall charger in the box?
- A total of 18,700 tonnes of components (the same weight as 1,000 London buses)
- 124,274 miles of copper wire and plastic covering (enough to wrap the O2 Arena 200,000 times)
- A volume of landfill equivalent to four Olympic swimming pools if all were thrown away
- Would you buy a phone with no wall charger in the box?
704 votes (704 votes) Those cheapskates are making an environmental excuse now!? I'm paying good money, they could at least throw in a charger!
193 votes (193 votes) Meh, who cares, if they don't put one in, I'll figure it out
399 votes (399 votes) Discarding electronic components at landfills is a growing problem indeed, I have enough duplicate chargers or cables lying around!
1. firestarter2 posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:10 19 0
Hmm I wonder if the phone price was reduced by the appropriate amount... sounds like a way to make more profit while pretending your motivation is good
28. Jonathan41 posted on 24 Jan 2013, 14:10 0 1
It's not like they aren't offering you a charger. You just receive one upon request.
39. metalpoet (unregistered) posted on 25 Jan 2013, 20:00 0 0
How about everytime I buy a cellphone, a bikini model presents it to me fully activated and the stupid phone that will fall apart within a year includes a wall charger, car charger, and some f***ing headphones as well you cheap bastards!
2. wendygarett (limited) 5 days ago posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:11 5 7
I had 4 charger (international) on my house already... Symbian, blackberry, and android... I can choose to sacrifice tho...
Of course I pay to get what I want, but it's not a deal breaker as well
7. wendygarett (limited) 5 days ago posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:31 3 10
And also, I realize something that really bugging me out... Cheapstake? Really?? Even if the cheapstake company want your little extra $$$$, so what? If you have an eager and sincere to do so, even if McDonald want you to bring your own goodie bag just to save extra $$$ for the paper bag, you will sincerely sacrifice yourself to do so... So stop saying other cheapstake when you yourself being cheap with no sincere!!!!
21. DanMarino13 posted on 24 Jan 2013, 12:13 7 0
i couldn't even comprehend what you were trying to say...
25. NexusKoolaid posted on 24 Jan 2013, 13:44 7 0
Either Google Translate has failed you miserably, or your typing has been influenced by one of your past McDonald's goodie bags.
38. metalpoet (unregistered) posted on 25 Jan 2013, 19:56 0 0
wendygarrett: What educational institution did you go to? Because they failed you my friend, I can't understand a single thing you have put on here because you cannot spell or formulate an understandable sentence.
3. OpTiMuS_BlAcK posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:11 10 0
Yeah, I might have a good number of chargers here, but their outputs are different.
4. simplyj posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:21 9 1
I'm not going to complain if my next phone doesn't have a charger, it's not a big deal
5. MattGioff posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:23 5 0
Its always nice to have a few spare chargers to keep at work or in the living room, but if smartphones lasted longer I wouldn't be as concerned about using an old charger from a previous phone. Therefore I'd prefer new phones still come with a charger. Even though my galaxy s 3 has good battery life, towards the end of the work day I am usually pretty close to it being completely dead. If I want to use my S3 past 8:00 pm it has to be charged.
6. freebee269 posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:31 8 0
i wish there was a regular old yes answer instead of this round about way of saying yes that doesnt even really say yes.
8. belovedson posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:37 8 0
Lower the costs on phone then yes it make sense. I I'm sick of hearing green when I noticed companies and people who supposedly are green really don't show it half the time
9. GALAXY-STORM posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:40 0 0
I think I need the charger. Btw nokia have given up the symbian products with p808 being the last one.
10. MattGioff posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:44 1 0
Maybe offering a free charger at the point of sale would be a good stepping stone so that the people who want a charger can have one and the people who don't need one can pass on it. While smartphones are currently pretty popular, not everyone has one and I don't believe someone who doesn't have a charger should be forced to buy one separately when they purchase a new phone. I think that if you buy a piece of electronic equipment it should come with everything you need to get it to run its basic tasks and a power cord/charger for something that doesn't use disposable batteries should be included when you purchase it at no additional fee or hassle.
11. wumberpeb posted on 24 Jan 2013, 10:06 0 0
Most phones, thankfully, use the same chargers based on the USB spec. As USB 3.0 trickles to smartphones, the charging port should remain the same size but we can all use the same cables (hopefully). It won't have an effect on the price of your subsidized device (here in the US at least), but we've all got chargers at home. I say it's a great idea, keep them out of landfills. Should new cables come along, they better put them back in...
However, new devices with much larger batteries come with higher output wall plugs. Even previous generation smartphones from last year came with 700 mA-1 Amp wall plugs, whereas devices like the Note 2 come with 2 Amp plugs. There's nothing wrong with using old plugs, but it probably won't charge your new $600 device as fast. That's the only pitfall, and it's not much of an issue anyways.
12. PAPINYC (limited) 2 days ago posted on 24 Jan 2013, 10:11 1 1
Meh... I voted them cheapskates but, in all honesty, the first iPhone I ever bought ages ago (when they were "in"), a 3G, I bought used without a wall plug; it did, however, come with that now famously obsolete white sync cable (since the pin connector has since changed) and the guy (from Craigslist) who I bought the iPhone from [ASSURED] me that I could charge the phone through iTunes. I learned long thereafter that it was not iTunes charging my iPhone but, in fact, it was my desktop; no wonder I kept getting those annoying iTunes "Error" messages. In the end, I guess I 'kinda figured it out', so I guess I should change my vote; is it too late?
15. andro. posted on 24 Jan 2013, 10:20 0 0
You'd be surprised the amount of iphones chargers that don't work out of the box,or stop working within a few weeks. The phones usually display "this is not a supported accessory" message
14. andro. posted on 24 Jan 2013, 10:17 0 0
I have about 5 micro usb chargers lying about from the days of my origonal htc desire and all other phones inbetween,plus my girlfriends. Dont need another charger.
I bet apple could jump the gun on this and not include the "lightning" charger in the box,many ifans would easily buy it as a neccessary accessory without fail.
16. OpTiMuS_BlAcK posted on 24 Jan 2013, 10:46 1 0
....bring back the back panel solar chargers!!
17. CorianU posted on 24 Jan 2013, 10:53 0 0
Whatever happened to those things? Those were cool
18. velfarreclubber posted on 24 Jan 2013, 11:44 3 0
I can make do without the USB home charger, just provide me with the data cable.
20. Charlie_boy posted on 24 Jan 2013, 11:58 0 0
totally agree! there a pc in the office.. then a laptop (ang even TVs) at home that have USB ports..
USB Cable is all you need. And you can but it virtually anywhere cheap.
23. corporateJP posted on 24 Jan 2013, 12:15 0 0
That takes longer to charge, though. I'm not good with that.
24. Charlie_boy posted on 24 Jan 2013, 12:45 1 0
agree with that too..
As long as the price drop is right, and i have an enough existing/good charger back home.. I'll take the one without the charger.
I think any sensible person with this situation would not pass up the offer.
19. crysiswarmonger posted on 24 Jan 2013, 11:57 4 0
By the time I am buying a new phone, my old cable and charge are usually needing to be replaced also. I would like the charger to be matched for my phone so that I can use phone with power demanding apps or features and it still can charge the battery.
I have a car charger that does not put out enough juice to charge phone while using navigation.
22. corporateJP posted on 24 Jan 2013, 12:14 4 0
What alot of people don't realize is that the amps in a charger seem to be different everytime you get a new phone. My old LG charger takes a better part of two to two-and-a-half hours to fully charge my GS3, while the charger that came with it does it in an hour or so for full battery. Let's not forget that some companies (*cough*...Motorola..."unauthorized charger"...*cough*) phones won't even let you plug another companies charger into it.
I'm better off with the idea of recycling my old ones and getting the proper one in the box, thank you.
26. dmckay12 posted on 24 Jan 2013, 13:51 2 0
I would buy the phone without it if it was good enough and there was no other choice, but I would find the lack of a charger to be stupid.
27. bfuller2006 posted on 24 Jan 2013, 13:52 0 0
I wouldnt really care if its micro usb because i have plenty of those type of charges...
29. rusticguy posted on 24 Jan 2013, 14:54 2 0
Why care for a wireless charger ... just have a charger permanently plugged in in every room ... so i would not take a phone without wall charger. trying to save money by not taking wall charger is like trying to fish in a pee pond :D
30. JewBakaUCFG posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:21 0 0
I have so many micro usb phone chargers and cables lying around that I may never need to buy one again as long as the phone fits. Saving a few bucks buying a phone without a charger sounds fine to me.
31. belovedson posted on 24 Jan 2013, 17:02 0 0
if these companies want to save plastic and copper and whatever else they are trying to save money. make a standard wireless charging tech. implement it in every phone and sell the pod or whatever it is called for dirt.
32. scsa852k posted on 24 Jan 2013, 17:33 0 0
If it was solely for the environmental purposes, this could be a good move, especially when most of android devices can be charged with micro USB.
But the problem is it is just too fishy that a company like HTC who is not doing so well, could be using this environmental crap as a poor excuse to save a few bucks for themselves.
If Samsung was doing this, I would believe it would be for the benefit of our environment.
33. jroc74 posted on 24 Jan 2013, 18:44 0 0
Well......expect for my Rezound charger...I can use any of the other ones I have for any Android phone.
The Rezound charger is specific to the Rezound, maybe other HTC phones. LG does it sometimes too. With LG its harder to tell because it can actually fit the USB port on a phone...it just wont charge all phones...
So I say yes and no...depending on the manufacture. LG and HTC made a bone headed move.. I dont what the world they were thinking....
34. buccob posted on 24 Jan 2013, 19:00 0 0
I have had chargers failed on me in the past... so not having a charger in a new package is a no-go
35. ivanprskalo posted on 25 Jan 2013, 10:34 0 0
I have like 15 chargers laying around the house... What do I need another one?
36. lauremar posted on 25 Jan 2013, 10:42 0 0
As long as Micro-USB stays as the standard charging connection all across mobile devices including smartphones and tablets, etc., I am good with that... And here's hoping that this standard stays forever...
37. housry23 posted on 25 Jan 2013, 15:33 0 0
I have several. Also, they can be bought on Ebay. But...Chargers break. Not everyone has one. And, I like having extra just in case. I think there needs to be the option to have one. Also, I think we're getting away from wires charging our phones. Most new high end phones are coming with wireless charging capabilities out of the box and this will become the standard. I don't need a data cable to sync to my computer. In fact, on Linux mint, the MTP support is terrible and I have just used Wifi File Explorer Pro to transfer files to and from my phone from my computer ever since the Galaxy Nexus came out.