T-Mobile announces it will go with all Value Plans in 2013
For the customer, the Value Plan gives them the lowest out of pocket cost to buy a new handset using the Equipment Installment Plan. It also allows a customer to bring his own device to the carrier. In fact, T-Mobile says that 12% to 15% of Value Plan activations are BYOD related. And while apparently that won't matter starting in 2013 when Apple devices are sold by T-Mobile, BYOD allows T-Mobile customers to bring an unlocked iPhone to the carrier. Currently, 1.7 million unlocked Apple iPhones are using the carrier's pipeline.
Going forward with one plan should allow for less confusion, and with the limited subsidy offered by the carrier for new handsets, it should have a positive impact on the bottom line of corporate parent Deutsche Telekom.
1. Captain_Doug (Posts: 746; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
I'll be signing up as soon as my Verizon contract is up.
22. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)
So in conclusion, is this news good or bad?
28. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
Very good idea. Tmobile will be making major moves in 2013. I am glad to be a value plan customer with two lines on Tmobile. The unlimited plan is the best thing going no doubt. My Galaxy Note 2 loves the unlimited usage.
29. archangel9 (Posts: 230; Member since: 07 Feb 2010)
Richie you got 2 lines bruh?For yourself?
2. ajac09 (Posts: 1336; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
as soon as they get LTE I will consider them
13. cjjohnson86 (Posts: 29; Member since: 05 Jan 2012)
No thanks, LTE still to much of a battery sucker. I'll stick with HSPA+ for now.
36. Captain_Doug (Posts: 746; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Especially once they start getting the 1900 mhz spectrum going. Sweet stuff.
3. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
I just don't have 300-700 dollars to spend on a cell phone honestly. I go for whatever is cheapest at the time because that's all I can afford. If tmo's idea of getting rid of subsidies work for them, go ahead. Honestly it hasn't hurt ATT and Verizon. And like most people say, you get what you pay for.
4. tthenri21 (Posts: 1; Member since: 06 Dec 2012)
still going to be cheaper then gettting verizon or att
7. cjjohnson86 (Posts: 29; Member since: 05 Jan 2012)
actually even paying the full price for a phone under the value plan is still cheaper in the long run when compared to ATT or Verizon. My share everything plan with Verizon costed $130 a month, times that by 24 months and tack on a $249 phone. $3369.00+. My t-mobile was 59.99 a month for the exact same plan, + $649= $2088.76. thats a $1280.24 difference, but then again, all people look at is the short term cost.
9. Nonono (Posts: 22; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)
but then again tmobile is basically giving you what pre paid carriers have been giving you but with a contract which doesnt make sense anymore. If your going to use tmobile and buy a phone full price just go with solavei whichis a prepaid carrier on tmobiles towers with unlimited everything and 4gb of 4g speed for $50. Compare it to tmobiles value plans and you get a better deal but without being tied to a contract. nexus 4 = $300. So $50 X 24 months = $1200 add the nexus 4 and it comes out to $1500.... Best deal in the U.S so far. Try and find a better deal
14. ruthayy (Posts: 16; Member since: 21 Jul 2012)
it is a contract because you get to break it down in payments, no interest either, as well as truly unlimited. sure you can go month to month and pay the full amount, but it will not be truly unlimited the most you will get is 5g.
30. Tycoon (Posts: 14; Member since: 10 Nov 2010)
The contract is only in place if you choose the equipment installment plan. If you pay for it outright, you don't have to worry about a contract. How is Straight Talk through Walmart? I talked to them and they said they are truly unlimited with their data (not 2GB, 4GB, 5GB, etc), plus the normal unlimited talk and text. I suppose they use T-Mobile lines... just have to get a Straight Talk SIM.
8. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
Let's be honest though ya'll, cheaper is not always better. More often than not, as lubba said, you get what you pay for.
11. Nonono (Posts: 22; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)
then again look at the nexus 4 ...... the U.S needs a better model then the one we have now where carriers have all the control and the consumer has none
12. ruthayy (Posts: 16; Member since: 21 Jul 2012)
the value plan downpayment is still less than what you would pay if you got the phone discounted on the classic plan. you leave paying less with the value. i guess you if you want to pay more within a 24 month term, well that's your decision.
15. Deadeye37 (Posts: 75; Member since: 25 Jan 2011)
Thats if you decide to buy the phone outright. Most people choose to go with the EIP (Equiptment Installation Plan). So out of pocket on the spot you only have to pay something similar to what the other carriers are charging upfront for their phones. The cost of the rest of the phone is broken into payments over 20 months. Once the 20 months are up, you suddenly have a drop in your monthly payment until you decide to get a phone again via EIP.
The Value plans are really inexpensive and the EIP payments range from $5-20/mo depending on how cheap/expensive the phone is.
The best idea is to wait for T-mo to do a sale that drops the downpayment to 0 (usually through mail-in rebates). They do those about every other month.
20. meowcenary (Posts: 187; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
When I secured my HTC 8x T-Mobile charged me $150. THe rest was a monthly $20 payment in conjunction to my monthly $160 phone bill. I aim to pay off the remain charge next billing cycle, so my significant oher could get her own HTC 8x.
5. Jyakotu (Posts: 814; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
So basically, it's like T-Mobile USA is going to be one big prepaid national carrier? I guess this could work for this, since the plans will be cheaper and most newer unlocked phones work with T-Mobile USA. BYOD + lower cost Value Plans will definitely be their niche. Now all they just have to do is get their coverage improved.
19. meowcenary (Posts: 187; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
You are still tied to a two year contract, so I would not call it prepaid.
37. Captain_Doug (Posts: 746; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
They do have a prepaid option though that is very competitive.
6. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
...and for tmo to welcome the many great devices found on other carriers.
10. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
So I'm guessing there won't be any rebates now?
16. Deadeye37 (Posts: 75; Member since: 25 Jan 2011)
I'm sure they'll be doing the rebates still. They seem to do sales on Value plans frequently that require MIR.
17. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
I can see one phone per family as this new change is only good for single individuals. Wanna add a family plan? Got 600-800$ to spend today? Be serious! Wanna upgrade, looking at least 300$ for one person. Lets see, $20 added to bill x24 months=480. Phone price day of purchase $300-120=180$ up front. 480+180=760. No different.
26. al3ksoj3di (Posts: 4; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)
Exactly dude, If I'm on a family plan with 5 lines and don't want to add a monthly payment charge of $20 per phone , I have to pony up to $2000 for 5 new phones. Ridiculous! The CEO said last year that this is what he wanted to happen but never thought it would. This new pricing is definitely going to hurt families.
18. Moneyman12 (Posts: 3; Member since: 10 Oct 2012)
No phone is $760 except the note 2; I don't understand where that's coming from. The math is very simple, the smartphones range from $40 to $360 for your upfront cost. I understand that a family plan can be expensive upfront but most od the smart phones that are free cause people to deactivate because the phone is so bad and are old inventory that a company is looking to use as bait to attractive customers.
31. Tycoon (Posts: 14; Member since: 10 Nov 2010)
I just choose to stagger phone purchases and/or ebay. My son is 15 and he won't have the newest and hottest device. My wife is anti-tech when it comes to phones. However, I just bought her the Nexus 4 due to the price. I can't get the Nexus devices due to the memory size, but if they get that right, I may put the whole house on that Nexus tip. Point is, $350 for a 16GB Nexus device makes other manufacturers' prices look overpriced... If my three family members get Nexus devices, I'm out $1,000... not too bad, plus I save on a monthly basis by being on the Value plan... or I can run to Straight Talk for $45 for unlimited everything...
21. Droiddoes (unregistered)
This will so bite them in the ass. I cannot tell you how many people a week I have to turn away because they are on the "value" plan because they think they have an upgrade and they don't. The "awesome" reps at tmobile NEVER tell customers that part, that they do not qualify for subsidized pricing on a phone.
I do convert a lot of folks to AT&T though, so thanks value plan!
23. Cellphonator12 (Posts: 27; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
After a whole year of test it hasn't and that's the reason why they decided to drop the Classic plan.
24. CMonster (Posts: 7; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)
How far does BYOD go? The problem with the SIII and its original quadcore processor was that the US LTE network wasnt ready for it, so Samsung made the dualcore version for the US. What if a later technology isnt compatible with the US network and someone attempts to bring an unlocked version of that phone to tmobile? Maybe I'm just confused as to the SIII quard vs dual core situation, but this could be a potential issue, could it not?
25. archangel9 (Posts: 230; Member since: 07 Feb 2010)
Very smart move and a sensible one.KUDOS Tmobile
27. al3ksoj3di (Posts: 4; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)
This plan made sense when it was the old Even More Plus plan with NO contract. The benefit of signing a contract nowadays should be getting a discounted device but not according to TMO. You're committing to a 2 year contract and paying full price for your device, somebody please tell me where the "Value" is?
35. illxander (Posts: 5; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
This is What I explain to them every time I go into a store. I am not signing a contract & paying full price for my device. Let alone that if you cancel in the middle you still have to pay the rest of the phone price as well as the ETF. And that flexible upgrade means pay the remainder of the balance for the device that you no longer want to use or has broken and then upgrade. The purpose of the contract is the subsidy, I'm not paying for my device and signing a contract.... pick one TMO.
33. tidus28 (Posts: 26; Member since: 08 Feb 2012)
i dont see them succeding with this and what happens to people with a classic plan already?
34. illxander (Posts: 5; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
I'm pretty sure we have to upgrade before this goes into effect. I'm so glad my upgrade is Dec 30th