Steve Ballmer singing own glory: "we've got the best-looking phones on the market"
You have heard about Microsoft's eccentric CEO Steve Ballmer, haven't you? Well, what you might have missed however is his latest statement on Windows Phone 7 devices:
“We've got the best-looking phones on the market. We've got the greatest range of alternatives, the phones, the software, the craftsmanship. It is as good or better than anything out there. We have a lot of work to do. But, we're in the game. We sold 1.5 million into the carriers.”
Mr. Ballmer certainly shows some swagger defending Microsoft's less-than-three-month old mobile platform and accompanying devices, but let's scrutinize his statement and see if it really matches reality. While “best-looking” might be a subjective matter, we feel that with just a few devices out there “the greatest range” claim could easily be disputed. After all there are still no CDMA WP7 handsets and Android running devices outnumber WP7 phones by a good margin. And even though Windows Phone 7 is definitely a legitimate contender in the OS race, we feel that the lack of multi-tasking is hardly “better than anything out there.”
Well, even if Ballmer's statement might have outstretched proportions, 1.5 million devices sold by Microsoft to carriers is definitely a notable achievement. And with some important updates expected in the near future, we can only hope to see stronger competition in smartphones, which would finally bring even better handsets to us, the users.
1. Chris Steel (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 10:17 5 0
WP7 sucks. I own a AT&T store and I haven't been able to sell even a quarter of my WP7 stock. We have had our sales staff constantly push WP7 but our customers only want the iPhone, Android, or BB. I can't speak for how its doing across the US. I feel that maybe WP7 was a bit too late though.
2. dha4461616161 (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 10:23 1 3
correction you may own an authorized retailer of at&t but i assure you that you do not OWN an at&t store. How confident are your sellers with a windows phone 7 and have they been properly trained on the device. I think maybe it may be an issue with you and it trickles down your employees : )
3. Chris Steel (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 10:26 3 1
Are you dumb? Maybe in your world you let your sellers try to sell something without being trained but in the real world you train your employees before you let them sell a product. To answer your ridiculous question, yes they have been properly trained. I think the issue with WP7 is the issue I stated above. Being too late, remember? Run along.
4. David Acaveda (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 10:28 0 0
doesnt surprised me at all. i think windows phone 7 feels like a beta but since android is really taking off it doesnt surprise me that microsoft rushed it out
8. dha4461616161 (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 10:41 1 7
You’re the one saying you own an at&t store like you are ralph de la vega or something. No way you own an att store since it is a publicly traded company and not one person “owns” an att store. From my experiences the authorized retail locations (that’s what you would be) have a bunch of pimpled-face 17 year olds working there that know absolutely nothing about the product that they are selling : )
9. Chris Steel (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 10:49 3 2
So you ignore pretty much everything else I said and revert back to the fact that I said I own an AT&T. I know I don't actually own it. Let me make it more simple since you are having a brain aneurysm since I wasn't 100% proper. ME, RUN A STORE, THAT SELL AT&T PHONES. Hopefully now you can stop shitting bricks over what I said. Now on to the second part of your comment. Obviously my previous comment holds true. The part about you living in a world where salesmen/saleswomen aren't trained in the product they are selling. As I said before this is the real world. My staff is trained in the product. Stop being upset that my customers don't want Windows phones. I make plenty selling all my other stock :)
32. Loser (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 21:29 0 1
Chris Steel I am going to report you to your District manager.
40. Chris Steel (unregistered) posted on 19 Jan 2011, 19:27 0 0
Go for it loser. Hahaha
10. Aaron B (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 10:56 0 1
lol are u a microsoft fanboy? the guy cant sell his windows phone7 phones. so what? seems to me like u are getting butt hurt because the truth wasnt completely positive.
11. steve jobs's tumor (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 11:05 1 1
You realize premium retailers require you to be atleast 18 right? Any reputable retailer demands their employees to require extensive training. I worked for a Verizon retailer and Verizon is atimate about making sure we were educated about the new products and policies. Even our managers were attending the courses along side us...
From my experience with Windows operated phones, (3 smartphones) I'll never go back. Droids are that much better. As it was stated earlier, Windows is too far behind in the game; playing keep-up. The only intriguing feature to me is the games, gamerscore, and xbox live sync features.
5. 9021378415 (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 10:31 0 0
LOL? best looking phones? compared to what steve? i understand you are hyped about your product but i think saying you have the best looking phones is jumping the shark
6. tedkord posted on 18 Jan 2011, 10:38 1 1
They have some very nice looking phones, marred by abutt ugly UI
7. Morgan Stacy (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 10:40 1 1
"We've got the greatest range of alternatives"
Range? All WP7 are high end phones. Did Microsoft forget about the Low Range market and Mid Range market? So how can Microsoft have the greatest range of alternatives? I call BS.
12. N.Reynolds (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 11:16 0 1
WP7 Simply sucks. Android IMO is best followed by iOS then BB. I wont even put WP7 in my rankings.
13. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 12:42 0 1
It's his dumb ego. and don't realize how big a market share ANDROID is getting. Now AT&T have 3 new 4G HPSA+ phones coming out this QTR and they will sell more than Windows 7 phone. just glad I never bought any of their old or new ones cause the hardware and software simply sucks.
14. Proteo (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 12:54 0 0
Yeah the best OS without multitasking, user ringtones(! in 2011!), without support in many different countries in Eu and beyond..
15. Androids_for_babies (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 13:00 2 6
WP7 is simple and made for people with work to do, not play games and sideload useless apps. Of course kids are not going to like it but if you're over 27 you probably care more about function than games and apps.
Blackberry has the best operating system, hands down. Anyone who has used more than one OS and has had a Blackberry can tell you that. The OS is easy to navigate, apps update quick, doesn't freeze up or get weird. Email comes through immediately and Blackberry Desktop allows easy backup and sync.
Android is the best? Compared to what, your old LG flip phone? Android is garbage - jumpy, glitchy and sometimes just plain unresponsive. I sold my BB Bold to try out a Motorola with android installed - what crap...and the email takes forever. Probably great for kids but if you're got work to do and need function you're screwed. Android is like the housing market in Phoenix, AZ - lots of people moved there for new affordable housing, realized it sucked and then left as soon as they could sell their houses and the city is crumbling now. All the new Android users are on contracts now and we'll see how Android retains market share once those contracts are up in another year or so. I bet they drop like a rock in 2012.
16. bmw3wags posted on 18 Jan 2011, 13:37 0 0
What do you mean WP7 is not for games...Why the hell would they put XBOX live on it then also just because of of that i know plenty of people that I go college with that would like to have a WP7 just becuase of that integration..... So I disagree about WP7 being for people that are 27 or older... I think people are just uneducated about WP7 and most people bashing it have never even touched a WP7 device so they are being completely ignorant saying what is better without testing.... I think the main thing holding this back is the crappy at&t and t-moble network they should have launched with CDMA support.
21. Syksyd posted on 18 Jan 2011, 17:36 1 0
I have had every os except ios and i must say your preception of BB having the best os is hilarious, that platform is so slow, every BB freezes for no reason and they still cant get their web browsers to the level of ios or android.....BB and WP7 are both garbage
25. protozeloz posted on 18 Jan 2011, 18:11 0 0
i don't know what cracks me up the most either the name you added to post this garbage or the your message...
now to the facts
-BB has a fairly stable OS but it yet really far to be considered the best OS around... its sluggish and lets be serious THE SETTINGS ARE A PAIN
-windows phone 7... for business only? says who? WP7 works pretty well for the gamer and the social user.....
-android a fail? a super sluggish OS? what you bought? an used click on eBay? I've been having android on my last few purchases and i can say i have nothing to be ashamed of, my phone responds well... its does what i tell it to do when i tell it to do it and my phone is not even a hight end phone....
I wonder how may here are stuck with an unwanted android purchase waiting for their contracts to be done... the line of "unsatisfied people" is so large that SE decided to focus on producing more android devices....
27. android 4 babies is dumb (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 18:30 0 0
what wp7 is a piece of crap and doesn't have any advanced features android has root and smart people can do a lot with it must be you dint make the cut sorry but no way is it for babies ....microsoft ceo made a horrible choice and canceling out the kin and releasing wp7 with a kin like database fail thats what you get when a loser steals stuff and puts it out as his fail fail fail karma coming around steve ... we want bill back ....
17. Patryk (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 13:44 0 0
All the CEO of any, I mean any, always said something nice, even it not nice. That the fact, it is especially during the earning season. Period.
18. DontHateOnS60 posted on 18 Jan 2011, 13:49 1 0
Hahaha, I beg to differ. Nokia has the best looking phones on the market. Always has.
22. Syksyd posted on 18 Jan 2011, 17:38 0 0
Nokia is the shit.....cant wait for the N9....Meego will smash all platforms when offically launched
19. rocky (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 14:39 0 1
it's so funny how people get excited about phones and opperating systems and companies I cant see why people get so bent out of shape about something like a phone. A phone is not anything serious we all can buy a phone every wweek if we wanted. Something for $500 or $600 bucks should not get people so excited.
20. bb sucks balls (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 17:04 1 0
to android for babies. bb is the worse os ever. slow, 624 mhz on torch, 16,000 apps and games, ugly ui, bad cameras, no front facing cameras, no 4g, no freedom. android has 1 ghz plus processors including dual core. great cameras, beautiful ui, fast, 4g, 140,000 apps and games. android has record growths and blackberry is doomed. 1.2 ghz in september, dual core will rule
23. krycek1984 (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 17:53 0 0
We went to the local Radio Shack yesterday to look at the Samsung Focus and they had no WP7 devices available to even try/play with. They said they haven't been able to keep up with demand.
24. ATTSalesGuyMD (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 18:09 0 0
I also am a manager at an At&t store...I use my WP7 phone more for every day tasks than I use my Android now. I use my Android when I have time to sit down and play with my phone, games, video, etc.
WP7 is GREAT as ADVERTISED for being something SIMPLE that you dont have to spend allot of time with....which was the point of the OS in the first place. Dont get me wrong, I thought the WP7 was going to be a flop and a waste of time, before it was released and now Im VERY surprised that it works as well as it does and it is being used as my main day time phone.
To the manager that CANT sell WP7....Your staff sucks as does your training and you may want me to come out and teach your people how to qualify customers and offer solutions to them instead of just being cashiers that are ringing up people that say "GIVE ME iPhone, Give ME DROID!". If you can't sell WP7 to people over BB then you are a terrible sales team.....just saying.
WP7 is PERFECT for people that want a smartphone but dont have weeks to learn how to operate it. It has more multimedia options and runs better than BB and is much simpler than Android for NON-smartphone type of people OR for people buying their FIRST smartphone and want a phone that does EVERYTHING but in a very easy to learn way.
Im glad im not a customer coming to that store....little old ladies are probably being sold Captivates and S**t....
29. Jon21 (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 19:12 0 0
Actually I'm an AT&T sales associate and I also have a hard time selling Windows Phone 7. I agree with the earlier poster that it is a little late and that is why its hard to sell. Most people don't know what it is and most people consider it to be shit since WinMo 6.5 was. It's obvious you have a hard on for Windows Phone 7 since somebody said they aren't selling you automatically say "oh it must be you, or it must be your training or it must be your staff". Give it a rest. Wp7 is hard to sell. Live with it. I'm glad you aren't my manager. You are probably one of those managers that doesn't know what they are talking about half the time they open their mouth.
35. YouShouldBeFired (unregistered) posted on 19 Jan 2011, 09:03 0 0
Your job as a sales person is to explain to people the difference and sell them the correct solution. The customers being uneducated is YOUR FAULT as a terrible sales person.
This guy is a bad manager? How, he is obviously selling all of his products while you are just acting as a cashier for yours and not educating them about new products....
You should off yourself...just sayin
38. Jon21 (unregistered) posted on 19 Jan 2011, 13:51 0 0
No shit you moron. And it's still hard to sell. What part of that is hard for you to understand. Oh I know. It's the part that you are a wp7 fanboy who can't come to terms with the fact that wp7 is hard to sell and therefore its not selling. LG even said sales were below expectations. Samsung and HTC would probably say the same if they released sales figures. You should pull your head out of your ass. Thanks
28. RoseyPalm (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 18:32 0 0
Palm is such an Epic FAIL at this point, people even forget it's still around.
31. CalmDown (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 20:37 0 0
Bla bla bla.... Really, Steve?
33. komelo posted on 18 Jan 2011, 22:20 0 0
This guys bash about wp7, you all are not supposed to switched to wp7, it is made for new smartphone users, not to mentioned the Xbox integration nobody can beat that, a lot of new smartphone users will like that feature, wp7 is still raw and its true, but for a new smartphone user the simplness of wp7 is the greatest asset. All the fandroids talking shit about wp7 can shut it. We dont want you in our family, you can stay with Google. Wp7 will bypass googles Android. Sit back relax enjoy the show . To all the people that can't sell wp7, maybe you all selling it to the wrong person. In att stores there's only one phone to consider IPHONE!!!!!!! WP7 AND IPHONE HAVE THE BEST,WHEN IT COMES TO SIMPLICITY AND FRIENDLY USER AND MOST OF THOS USERS ARE FOR SURE NEW USERS. SO TO ALL THE STAFF AND MANAGERS TRY HARDER OR MAYBE INTRODUCE THE PHONES AND THE OS IN THE RIGHT WAY, DO NOT APPROACH A BUYER IN A NEGATIVE WAY, I WENT TO ONE TMOBILE STORE, AS SOON AS I GET THERE ALL THIS FART SAID IS ANDROID! I SAID I DONT LIKE ANDROID PHONES, THEN HE SAID ANDROID IS THE WAY TO GO, I ASK HIM WHY? HE SAID ITS THE BEST OUT THERE, WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATIONS. I DONT LIKE THE G2 I DONT LIKE THE MY TOUCH 3G, I DONT CARE ABOUT THE DROIDS IN VERIZON. I PLAYED WITH THE EVO 4G, DROID X,, THERES MOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT THIS PHONES, I FOund this phones way to slow compare to wp7, there's a video about the Moto atria vs the focus compared the 2, the video didn't last a day Motorola removed it from YouTube and pocketnow.com, all you fsndroids have to realized phone manufacturers will go where they can make millions they dont care about the consumers, the reason they kept supporting Android is because they make money of them.
34. Jon21 (unregistered) posted on 18 Jan 2011, 22:26 0 0
Ah yes. Another fanboy of WP7. We get it. According to you Android and iOS sucks. Windows Phone 7 isn't selling, people from AT&T are saying and LG said as well. But of course you fan boys say "it must be the way you are selling it, or it must be you aren't trained to sell it properly" Shut the hell up already. It's not selling cause its lacking alot of features that other OS's have and because its being over shadowed by other OS's.
lol @ wp7 being great for simplicity
36. YouShouldBeFired (unregistered) posted on 19 Jan 2011, 09:20 0 0
Youre an idiot.
I own a Droid and a WP7 on different carriers. I sell multiple carriers. Your job as a sales person to to EDUCATE consumers on what to buy, if you cant sell WP7 you are a moron and should lose your job and you would be fired from my store instantly with your terrible and pathetic attitude. Keep playing cashier and giving AT&T customer service a bad name.
39. Jon21 (unregistered) posted on 19 Jan 2011, 13:54 0 0
No shit you moron. And it's still hard to sell. What part of that is hard for you to understand. Oh I know. It's the part that you are a wp7 fanboy who can't come to terms with the fact that wp7 is hard to sell and therefore its not selling. LG even said sales were below expectations. Samsung and HTC would probably say the same if they released sales figures. You should pull your head out of your ass. Thanks.
And again. Pull your head out of your ass. You don't sale phones on any carriers. If you did you would go out of business immediately because of how stupid you are. I mean really. Crying and Complaining because people and LG can't sale WP7. But because you're a fanboy your excuse is "it must be you and the way you sale the phone". LOL! I'm sorry for abusing you. You made me do this.
37. komelo posted on 19 Jan 2011, 11:47 0 0
I'm independent,I dont belong to any party, I used all os, from Symbian back 1997 to winmo then rim to Android evo 4g. Compare all this to wp7 ,when it comes to speed and uniqnes, fluidity WP7 is the best, now if you talk about rooting and editing registry Android is the one, but we did all customization with winmo, unfortunately ms didn't care enough to update I'm a regular basis. So to all fandroids out there, you all should say thank you to BIG RED and Motorola. DROID!!!!!!