Samsung pulling back on Tizen?
The drum beats for Tizen were at their loudest when it appeared as though Samsung wanted Google to understand that Samsung's success with devices like the Samsung Galaxy S III and the Samsung GALAXY Note II had a lot to do with the manufacturer itself and not just the Android platform.
While at the time, there was talk about Samsung switching to Tizen for its smartphones, that seems unlikely considering the huge market share that the Google open source OS owns globally. Swapping Android for an unproven platform would not only be likely to knock Samsung down from its leadership among smartphone manufacturers, it would probably breathe some life into other Android handset producers like HTC and Motorola that are trying to recapture attention from the smartphone buying public. Knowing that a Samsung move to Tizen could positively impact its wholly owned Motorola subsidiary is probably one reason why Google has been so calm about the whole affair.
1. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1633; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
If Samsung has to switch to any new OS go to Ubuntu that's got potential! Don't leave android though that would just be embarrassing and tragic for Sammy....
16. roldefol (Posts: 3121; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Tizen and Ubuntu both have a branding problem, at least in the US. You expect the clueless buying public to choose between Windows, Apple, Android, and Ubuntu? How do you even pronounce that?
2. N5110 (Posts: 13; Member since: 26 Apr 2013)
The success market share of samsung comes from Google's Android OS. Nuff said. Go on fandroinds, defend your market throne. lol
4. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 982; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
Not a fandroid but i cant even imagine consider buying a Samsung's mobile till google released android.
and of course Samsung really played well with android.
google helped Samsung and Samsung helped google.
12. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)
+1 to this too. Although I liked Samsung before, I dont like it now, coz lets be honest, it did copy Apple initially. Even the name Galaxy 'S' came after iPhone 3G'S'. This is going on since they copied the Nokia N95, remember the Samsung i8510 Innov8? The Sangria i620 is still one of my favourite phones though.
3. ianbbaa (Posts: 217; Member since: 20 Mar 2013)
Every new OS should be launched from bottom to TOP...BADA was started as an expensive high-end device at that time, but BADA is dead now. The same for TIZEN - if you just start slowly with low/mid-end devices, and continue develop the platform into competitive high-end device side to side android, it may succed.
It will FAIL if they will just launch expensive "flagship" just on TIZEN. They know it.
S4 is TouchWizz, Google eddition - what about to add S4 TIZEN? That would be really great for end user to choose platform of his likes.
FIREFOX does it great, low end just to start and be competitive, making better and better with time....
5. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2814; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Well said, making an entry with lower end TIZEN phones will help otherwise will be a big flop. Who would buy a S4 Tizen, if loads of S4s and other android devices are out there. If not android people will go to Nokia I mean WP or Ubuntu or Firefox.
6. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 642; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
Its amazing how ppl seem to think samsung is stupid. This is the company that sold millions of android phones. Im sure they are not that stupid to drop android. The problem is us believing every single article we read. Im sure samsung will release a tizen devices while focusing on android still. You dont hold the majority of the market share by bn stupid and i doubt that sammy will be that stupid to drop android, they know that they are where they are due to android and android is where it is due to samsung. So please lets all just chill, samsung will still support android and im sure their flagship devices will still be loaded with android.
7. ianbbaa (Posts: 217; Member since: 20 Mar 2013)
They want drop android any soon, and they wont do it from day to day - but to have their "own" platform is a good challenge for them. See Apple+iOS+apps.
Samsung +Tizen + APPS - in near future might mean a (big) change. "Might" i wrote...
8. Finalflash (Posts: 1878; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
This might be a sign for KLP more than anything else. Samsung was largely making Tizen for low to mid tier phones because Android in its current state requires a good amount of hardware (not as much as the hardcore Apple fans would have you believe but still a good amount). By this point Google should have given some amount of code for KLP to most major partners since all major versions of JB are done with. KLP is largely expected to bring Android huge improvements in the low and mid tier, due to an increased focus on somewhat lower spec but specialized hardware by Google (Moto X) and by the industry's expected focus on those lower tiers. If KLP brought the required boost for those underpowered phones, then Samsung may have just relaxed their push on Tizen because they might no longer need it.
Since that is just speculation without evidence, I will lay out my reasoning here. Basically Samsung gains nothing from Tizen becoming popular other than App Store revenue (like the Google cut on the Play Store). But that is not going to be much since poor or frugal individuals buying low tier phones are not going to splurge and impulse shop for apps. Samsung makes no money on Ads as far as I know and has no way to get into that market anyway without a search engine or information monopoly like Google. The only other thing with Tizen would be more control for Samsung, but as a developer, I have no idea how deep system control gives Samsung any advantage over other manufacturers. Largely because any advancement available to Tizen will be available in Android (as we have seen with Google keeping far ahead or on par with iOS, Blackberry and Windows Phone on features. They gain some hardware specific optimizations which will speed up their apps a bit more...but can that marginal advantage really be worth the headache and investment of managing a WHOLE new OS.
So that is my take on the issue here and how this might have come to be. Aside from that I do believe we need to remove this Apple vs Google vs Samsung vs whoever. All of these guys are doing fine and good (other than those retarded lawsuits which seem to be dying down thankfully). There also needs to be more thorough analysis by the writers on this site and I don't mean something like that retarded "Android becoming more like Apple" article (so many things wrong with that article and also, how does an OS become more like a corporation anyway?). Apple seems to be focusing more on the stable and even more secure (now with fingerprint sensor) than ever before. Google seems to be going more into mind reading and futuristic adventures such as Glass (and that sometimes extremely scary prediction Google Now does about what I need to do before I have done it). Microsoft still seems to be getting its act together on the whole and specifically with mobile as well, so that remains a wildcard. No comment on BB unfortunately....RIP. All of these great patterns and events yet little meaningful discussion. Sad.
9. Trex95 (Posts: 571; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)
BTW Moto x the only Android device that comes with quad core GPU like IPAD.
10. FadyNabil (Posts: 37; Member since: 10 May 2013)
Samsung can sell any system they want,
ads, ads, ads, they will sell you anything.
most people's doesn't care what OS is on their mobiles, they even don't know. I still know ppl that doesn't know anything about the OS their samsung's are running,
when asked, they replied it's something like apple and does what the apple do but cheaper!!
Tizen can be that, something like apple but cheaper.
13. softfurryanus (banned) (Posts: 232; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)
I agree, watch any galaxy S4 or S3 ads, I don't think Samsung ever actually mentions "android." If they marketed a phone with more gimmicky features that make people go "wow" and then not mention tizen... they can probably win over a few people.
14. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 642; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
True that. I think if they keep the same touchwiz that you see on android, average joe will not know. Bcos samsung doesnt ad android on their ads, they promote touchwiz.
15. a_tumiwa (Posts: 295; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
release Tizen ASAP, revive Bada, buy WebOS, buy BB10 OS, use Firefox OS, use Ubuntu mobile OS, use Sailfish OS