RIM, Windows Phone, Android take the back seat as iPhone surges to market glory
1. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
10...9...8..7... here comes all the haters
6. willywill_evo (Posts: 162; Member since: 05 Jan 2011)
i dont see then, anyway good for apple they are on top of the US market, this is there home land after all but android is # 1 world wide
4. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
No.. US is just the leader of the free world!
16. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Nope. Sorry buddy. The US lost this position a LONG time ago.
31. isheeparena (Posts: 3; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)
you were THE REAL hatter to think that US is the leader of the free world.....
32. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
You must be from France my friend.... If not US then who?
Sorry if I come off as arrogant but my blood runs Red White and Blue!
41. isheeparena (Posts: 3; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)
I'm not from france.
1. Apple (US) failed to show the foxcon worker the wonder of U.S. labor system.
2. how about Iraq??? did U.S show what happened to Iraq as the free leader example???
3. How about China?? U.S is more the bad guy than the good guy. U.S seems more like a bully than the free leader in China - U.S relation.
4. SOPA. If US start cencoring the web, then it would make Iran, Iraq, Saudi, etc have the reason to do their own kind of cencorship. Then it would be a dark ages for people who live there as they would never find out the truth.... so, US as the leader of free world.... no way....!! (on the great news, SOPA fail).
and many more....
42. ilia1986 (unregistered)
I'm from Israel fyi. And your Red White and Blue in the meantime aren't doing much in order to keep some asshole in Iran who denies the holocaust, and has wet dreams about destroying our country - from obtaining nuclear weapons and doing just that.
Normally I wouldn't care. But you see, this asshole has built himself nuclear reactor by now. Now tell me Mr. All Mighty America - when will you do to Iran what you did to Iraq and Afghanistan? Because neither of those had nuclear energy at the time, iirc.
49. greathero1 (Posts: 442; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)
Well, Israel is a real tough guy. How about they handle this one themselves instead of waiting around for Red, White, and Blue taxmoney to do them a service. It might have to do with the fact that bulldozing Palestianian houses is much easier to do than duke it out with Persians.
50. ilia1986 (unregistered)
1. We can. And we might as well do the world a favor by doing that. It's the Red White and Blue who oppose the idea. Oh, and all of Europe as well.
2. We don't bulldoze Palestinian houses.And when we do - it's only as punishment for the fact that some minor asshole decided to strap a bomb to himself and blow up a bus with innocent women and children. So yeah - we aren't going to let this happen. Stop listening to how the media describes us, and look instead at facts.
54. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
I have to agree with you on this this issue. The world, especially US , is not doing enough to pressure Iran to give up its pursuing of nuclear weapons. Action is upon us and I fear that reaction will lead to a negative reaction. It’s a complicated foreign affair. This isn’t just an Israeli issue… but you can’t possibly think US has an obligation to attack Iran simply because we share a democratic government can you?
85. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
woah woah woah.
ok, gotta stop u there.
the red white and blue are not in charge.. the blue socialist scumbags are. you expect obama and reid to go to war? ha. obama has done more to insult our allies and hug our real enemies than ive seen any president do in a good while.
That said, we cant afford another war. Obama has already raised us from 4 fronts to 6 (addition of pakistan and libya), spread us too thin, and at the same time is cutting our troops. we cant always be called apon as the Calvary to save everyone. Sometimes people have to do it themselves.
Financially america is no better off than spain, greece, or france. With Obama's mass increase in spending and debt and our bad economy, its going to be decades before we are where we were in the 90s and early 2000s. The only reason we havent crashed completely is because we are the worlds currency, which is propping us up. China is trying to bid to become the worlds currency, though. Thats bad for everyone and double bad for the US because our last crutch will be pulled from under us.
Long story short.. its time for someone else to pull the trigger. We need to fix ourselves before we can save anyone else.
87. ilia1986 (unregistered)
davecann2: You attacked Iraq over much much less. Here you got proof that those weapons of mass destruction actually exist.
And remixfa - gotta agree with you there. However the US doesn't really need to do anything. Just secretly approve of our action. Maybe threaten to intervene if old Ack!Mad-in-a-jar gets pissy and decides to retaliate. All we do is bomb the reactor. Just like we did in Syria and Iraq.
91. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i secretly approve of your actions.
id be a better president than obozo the socialist clown anyways. :)
97. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)
what remix you didnt like Obama's "change?" ;)
i would have loved to have said this with a straight face and not laughed
59. tward291 (Posts: 559; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)
why are you so scared have you forgotten were you come from
88. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Because there is an enemy country very close to us with nuclear capability, and a mad dictator who dreams to destroy us? Oh yeah - that gotta be it.
90. Eingild (Posts: 203; Member since: 19 Apr 2011)
No. Your blood runs green because you're ***.
51. SleepingOz (Posts: 2474; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
Nice dream but it's time to wake up! =]
5. bragzter (Posts: 44; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)
There isn't enough Windows Phone devices available. The Nokia Lumias are nice, but not ebough. Also I believe Nokia could have made an impact in the states and worldwide with the N9, but instead they decided to go with Windows Phone. I think they may be regretting that decision right now
13. snowgator (Posts: 3159; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
No, they are not regretting it. Again, please remember this was an ecosystem decision. Windows Phones provided Nokia with a finished product at near no cost to their own back pocket. They can turn a better profit per handset on WP than they ever could on Symbian and Meego just due to not having to devlop the software side of it.
That being said, Meego was a GREAT looking OS, and I would have loved to have seen Nokia try to treat it as Samsung has with Bada: Develop it in a few markets, and allow it to grow slowly. Or, allow one line of Symbian phones to survive for those fans of that platform. I do not think it is too late to change course on Symbian. Will be interesting to see what will happen after MWC with the Nokia with the new version of Symbian on it.
7. darvisha (Posts: 6; Member since: 13 Dec 2010)
I am waiting for Nokia to push the Windows Phone despite the fact that Microsoft with its policy to penetrate the market ruined its platform and marketshare itself. Whwn there are rumors that windows phone 8 will come later this year a wise person will not buy a wp7 phone and will wait for next generation cause it takes 2 year contract here in US until you can get a carrier discounted phone. I am so tired of android freezing and so mad with apple's game playing which I will switch to Nokia Lumia 900 as soon as it will be available but I really want a phone with SD support which I can put my music or clips on. I do believe adding cores to that cpu is important as well thogh WP7 is smooth and fast at the time being, to handle more complicated applications they need multi core processing. I am sure Microsoft is hard at work but their marketing is so weak.
8. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
I'd like to see WP as the third competitor, but it doesn't look like they're doing so hot. Hopefully wp8 and the next line of nokias can find a foothold in the market. Btw R.I.P. R.I.M.
12. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
the stats for wp7 are off.. it really should start now since wp7 and winmo have been divided… i think wp7 will increase with time--nothing else really has a true chance of increasing besides for it
9. tward291 (Posts: 559; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)
windows is my next ship that is if tmobile gets a nice 4.3 screen with sd card support
10. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
wow, that was a pretty substantial increase. They got a lot of that RIM business that..well.. ran away from RIM.. lol.
The Windows bit was covered in a previous PA article though. Last years numbers included WP7 and Win6.5 sales, this year its ONLY WP7, and thus was actually an increase in market (if you broke out the WP7 sales alone from last year).
11. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
oh man, when this insanity will stop.. -.-
good thing that we're in february now..i expect android is selling better than rotten apple in the US again.. and by june it will look like this:
android:iOS - 55:20
15. bbblader (Posts: 532; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
before the next iphone there will be a new SGIII and it will kick iphone's f**king ass more than bruce lee can
20. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
in america, android and iOS bounce back n forth depending on whats going on. there hasnt been a major stateside phone release since the nexus on just VZW. The last "big" release was the SGS2 way back in october. The i4s, like all apple phones works on a hockey stick. It spikes way up, then slides down every month until the next release. Android's sales are a more consistent uphill graph, which is why they bounce back n forth. By Q3, Android will have a big lead again, and then in Q4, apple will have a big bounce..
But yes, worldwide, android has nearly double the marketshare that apple does.
26. gallitoking (Posts: 4630; Member since: 17 May 2011)
yes but Apple does it with one phone and Android.. well I lost count...
28. Sniggly (Posts: 6486; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Actually, Apple does it with *three* phones. And a s**t ton of marketing and product placement. And that marketing places Apple products as a status symbol, whereas Android phones are not.
30. audiblenarcotic (Posts: 108; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
Yeah I was kind of going to hint at the same thing. Apple currently sells the 3GS 4 and 4S so it isn't exactly one device. Unless you count the fact that Apple has kind of sold the same exact device since 2007 and just changed the way it looks a little bit.
On a serious note though i can tell you that from working in a retail location... The 4 is outselling the 4S by a huge margin. More people are interested in the price then anything else.
36. gallitoking (Posts: 4630; Member since: 17 May 2011)
true but the majority of sales comes from the 4S or the 4... that is not the point... the point is that Samsung has so many variants of the SGSII to be beaten like that.... from a phone that has not changed since 2007.. how embarrassing.. I should say for the so called phone of the year...
40. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yes, but even your 4 and 4s are broken down into different models on different carriers. can you get a CDMA 3gs? nope.
52. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)
"from a phone that has not changed since 2007"
and this is a good thing? I fail to see how having a linear OS that has little to no features (including widgets) is a 'good' thing. Apple executives that are caught buying the Nexus on release and articles (on executives) that point to Android having "better voice services than Siri." Being innovative is what makes a phone great.
I had an apple 3g (jailbroke used on tmobile even ATT) and it actually was a quality build even tho i'm not an apple fan. That is to say however that their phone HAS changed. The 4s and the 4 are pieces of junk (i do a ton of manufacturer warranties weekly), just like Samsung phones (rarely do i find a Samsung phone that holds a high standard to quality in reception, build, and data; menu customization is all that Samsungs have imo). You again cling to your apple religion by dissing on a phone company that makes crappy phones to being with. This is not a strong argument...
The Iphone 4s has almost identical specs to the Droid X2 with verizon which was released in May of 2011. The 4s was released in October of 2011 and only has a better screen (slightly). So if you wanna talk about embarrassing, I would consider releasing a phone that's already "outdated" by its release date is down right embarrassing. Americans should be embarrassed imo; the rest of the world is laughing at us by clinging to such a crappy product.
the first rule of statistics is how the information is interpreted....
43. -box- (Posts: 3565; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Technically it's more than 3, as they count each capacity variant as a separate model, so technically there's the 8GB 3GS, 8GB 4, 16GB 4, 32GB 4, 16GB 4S, 32GB 4S, and 64GB 4S, plus the color variations, black & white. Personally I think that the locked variants should be counted separately as well, AT&T GSM locked, Sprint CDMA locked, Verizon CDMA locked, and C-Spire CDMA locked, and the apple-only unlocked 4 and 4S variants. C-Spire and Sprint only have the 8GB 4, and each of the 4S. So I count that to be.... 13 for AT&T, 12 for Verizon, 8 for Sprint, and 8 for C-Spire, and 10 for Apple... so that's... 43 variants in the U.S. alone! I think that's more variants than the entire carrier-subsidized or sold phone lineup from any other manufacturer selling in the U.S.
46. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i want to disagree with the over breaking down of each line by carrier, but since thats the way all those sales charts do it for android phones that are sold across multiple carriers, i cant take too much issue with it.
47. -box- (Posts: 3565; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Per Samsung's U.S. site (http://www.samsung.com/us/topic/our-galaxy-smartphones) there are 19 Galaxy series (ALL Galaxys, not just the Galaxy S2 line) phones for sale in the U.S. accounting for all colors and all carriers (they only list one Galaxy Nexus on their site even though we know there's the Verizon CDMA version and the unlocked GSM one). In fairness, let's count their total lineup at 21 to account for the Skyrocket HD and international versions of the GS2, even though they're not available from Samsung U.S.. Bear in mind that the original Galaxy S series made the iphone4 look like a chump, giving up only pixel density and the front-facing camera statistic wise.
Now, in reference to my prior post, there are 43 versions of the iPhone in the U.S. That's still more than DOUBLE the number of Galaxy series available. I believe you'd have to combine all the available Android models from Samsung, Motorola, and HTC to reach the same number of models apple makes of its iphone series. Furthermore, those same models are countlessly customizeable, with expandable storage, OS mods, and also the ability to unlock them by entering the unlock code. No need to download Cydia or redsn0w or ultrasn0w to unlock the device, and no need to buy the full-priced never-locked model from the OEM.
iphones are status symbols for the consumerist-driven buyers that helped get this country into the financial posistion its in, who go with what they are told to buy, not bothering to do the research and see what else is out there, or see what might better match their lifestyles and preferences. They are the most expensive U.S carrier-subsidized phones to own and maintain because you need apps to make them do anything, their insurance and replacement costs are the highest, and they also have the longest contract tenure before they are "upgrade eligible", being typically 20 months compared to non-iphone 12-18, depending on carrier. Furthermore, they also have the human cost as well, given the conditions the phones are made in. Granted, other phone manufacturers are guilty of the same thing, but none have the insane profit margins and controlability apple does to insist upon and implement changes to resolve such issues as swiftly and effectively as possible.
78. iBeliever (banned) (Posts: 33; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)
Wow are you really using the argument that there's more iPhones than android phones. You should get a job for Fox news. An amazing twist of facts here disproportionate to reality.
86. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
first sign of a lost arguement, blame fox news. lol.
did you know that Media Matters, the socialist George Sorros front group, was braging not 2 weeks ago that nearly all but Fox News (and a few minor publications) get their "news" from talking points through Media Matters.
"“We were pretty much writing their prime time,” a former Media Matters employee said of the cable channel MSNBC. “But then virtually all the mainstream media was using our stuff.”
"media matters is an Obama administration front that strategizes with the White House on a weekly basis on how to influence and direct the media"
93. thinking (Posts: 130; Member since: 19 Jan 2012)
It is a fact. If you notice the specs of many other android phones, sometimes, the differences are only in the storage size and sometimes, the manufacturer is different. Most everything else about many of those phones are identical. So, are you really using the argument that the iphone is just one phone in an article that is about OSs?
92. thinking (Posts: 130; Member since: 19 Jan 2012)
so? aren't we talking about OSs here and not phones?
75. iBeliever (banned) (Posts: 33; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)
The new iPhone launched in October also idiot
18. taz89 (Posts: 1944; Member since: 03 May 2011)
i swear one stat says android is top,another says ios is on top...whats the truth...also i think this stat is for the last quater which ios saw a boom in market share which is logical but am sure that in 2011 overall android still has more market share.ios always has a huge surge in the quater that a new iphone is released and starts to level out for the rest of quater...nothing really new here but none the less impressive growth by the iphone.
21. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
you have to pay attention. each stat focuses on a different category. this is just US statistics. The last one was world wide that showed android with double the share. there is also an asia graph and a europe graph.
22. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
It's about time Nokia hit the U.S with their Lumias
24. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)
right? I love my Android, but i'm really excited to see if VZW will finally come together with Nokia to offer me a nice winphone!
heres to hoping....
23. tobin_o (Posts: 6; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)
I did find this story to be newsworthy in terms of US market share, but also seemingly biased in that it blatantly ignored the main focus of the source article... in which the full set of data show Android, not iOS, surging to "market glory" pretty much everywhere else in the world that was surveyed, compared to *relatively* pedestrian growth for iOS in those other markets.
The US is a pretty big market, but there is a bigger world outside of it, and it certainly looks like Android is the platform doing the surging in the grand scheme of things...
25. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)
The Apple Iphone is nothing more than the fleecing of Americans...
If Android came out with an operating system called AOS that looked identical and ran smoother, people would still flock to the stupid iphone. Thats not to mention Apple would sue them over something ;)
72. iBeliever (banned) (Posts: 33; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)
Umm android basically did make a copycat OS. That's the funny thing about the Apple haters.
79. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)
then we all technically are copy cats of Blackberry then....
thats the funny thing about apple lovers, they lack things called logic and facts :)
82. iBeliever (banned) (Posts: 33; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)
Umm Apple totally redefined the user interface of a smartphone. You're being blinded by irrational hatred for Apple.
98. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)
you're blinded by your infatuation with apple
i've owned every operating sytem and have been in the phone game for a long time....each one is different.
Apple is finally getting some pressure from some of their 'smarter' users wanting things like widgets...
who's going to be the copycat now? come on man...it's computers they all steal ideas from each other (Doctor Dos comes to mind)