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Phone makers move away from Windows Phone because of high licensing fees and Nokia competition

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Phone makers move away from Windows Phone because of high licensing fees and Nokia competition
Phone makers are either moving away from Windows Phone or putting their plans for the platform on hold, according to DigiTimes’ sources. There are a few reasons for this. First and foremost, Microsoft has only managed to get a market share of 3%, and additionally its platform comes with hefty licensing fees and manufacturers have to compete with Nokia.

Nokia holds an overwhelming majority of Windows Phone sales. Recent data showed in May 2013 the Finnish company sold more than 80% of all Windows Phones leaving little space for others.

HTC, Samsung and Huawei all initially jumped on the Windows Phone 8 opportunity with new devices, but since the initial launches they have not offered a single new device, while Nokia has released a total of six WP8 handsets.

Chinese manufacturers like Acer, Asus and ZTE intended on launching Windows Phone 8 handsets in 2013 but have now pushed back their plans. Here, the main reasons are Microsoft’s unwillingness to lower the high licensing fees for its mobile platform and Nokia’s strong positions. Microsoft holds a tight grip on Windows Phone and that also makes it harder to differentiate.

source: DigiTimes

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posted on 11 Jun 2013, 03:37 40

1. tiara6918 (Posts: 1340; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)


Windows Phone=Nokia

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 04:05 20

15. SonyXperiaNexus (Posts: 374; Member since: 01 Oct 2012)


nokia pwns all!

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 11:11 2

112. akki20892 (Posts: 3292; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


nokia is king of wp, then who want to come in Nokia land. i'm seeing nokia is rising and every OEM seeing that too. and i hope nokia will reach around 95% marketshare in WP.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 20:32

133. Daftama (Posts: 563; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


I don't thing major phone makers care...its the small companies like LG and HTC no offense that care so congrats you can have 99.99% share if not 100 I still will refuse to use icrap and windows

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 21:58 1

138. akki20892 (Posts: 3292; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


then what u use on your pc. android? u can't hide this.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 04:07 10

16. tusshharish (Posts: 341; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


anytime......

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 04:15 10

19. joey_sfb (Posts: 2696; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Nokia attack HTC aggressively for their WP phone. Looks like Nokia is getting a great deal out of Microsoft after all.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 04:55 16

25. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


It's more like a dead platform. I don't see wp8 doing well! Look what happened to Windows Mobile, for the past 8 years it was failing, so what diffrence was Wp7 and Wp8 do! All manufactures tried befor and it lead to loss, a big flop! The only reason Nokia has gone for a free ride, which they don't pay nothing. MS is funding Nokia to keep Nokia floating.

That is a nonsense that Wp fees are high, who the hell would want there company to bleed.

Ms Wp8 you are a "Fail"™

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 05:27 20

36. mousesports (Posts: 243; Member since: 28 Feb 2013)


you repeat yourself , every day , same words , same retard brain . GTFO and live us alone tard

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 12:50

119. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)


Let wp8 belong to nokia.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 05:32 5

37. Topcat488 (Posts: 1120; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


Hey Troll, I read your comments a lot and think you're a very knowledgeable person when it comes to tech... It's only your profile name that people hate, but if they read what you say, some might learn... I need you to trade mark the name "Nokiasoft" for me bud! Hahaha---- "NOKIASOFT" Windows new OEM... Hehehe

@TROLL

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 06:21 1

43. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Cool™

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 06:03 12

40. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


You suck

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 06:21 4

42. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Are you 13 Bluesky....?

Couldn't you come with an answer, instead of saying "You suck" off topic!
®

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 06:41 7

49. xperiaDROID (Posts: 5150; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


And you're 6, TROLL.

Couldn't you come with a positive comment, instead of saying "Wp8 dead", "Wp8 fail" blah blah blah.......!!

You suck.™

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 08:04 3

73. Topcat488 (Posts: 1120; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


"NOKIASOFT".... To the rescue!!! LOOK! Up in the Sky!

IT'S a Bird.!. It's a PLANE.!. No, it's just a Big ole Phone...

It's "NOKIASOFT"... Dutt, dutt, dutt------ Dunnnnn, dutt, dutt, dutt, dutt, dutt---- Duuuunnnnn.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 09:15 1

89. Hallucinator (Posts: 340; Member since: 24 May 2010)


I think it's more pathetic that 6 people liked his comment.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 07:21 4

58. wurmZ (Posts: 32; Member since: 11 Jun 2013)


at TROLL: Why not make the difference yourself by changing your perception? Windows phone is trying to move forward, why not make a push up north instead of pulling down south?

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 07:40 5

63. roldefol (Posts: 2858; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Save your keystrokes. This one's a WP-hater troll through and through. If it's not Android, it must be rubbish to him.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 08:24 2

77. wurmZ (Posts: 32; Member since: 11 Jun 2013)


hahaha you right. I always read PA everyday and it is very annoying to read comments that are laden with so much hate. It only shows their breed, pack of wolves. Maybe the weight of the bashing will have a corresponding value in cents.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 09:55

95. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1268; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Look I don't have anything against windows phone, tried it wasn't for me. But that comment, really? That like instead of saying a Ford Escort is slow you'd say it moves at a comfortable pace. The point is not everyone is going to like everything. If someone wants to dislike something it's their right as much as it is for someone else to like something. Personally I usually don't comment on something I have no interest in unless I see what I perceive to be an error. Otherwise it'd be like a bunch of Vikings fans going into a Packers bar and trying to convert them.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 19:45

131. wurmZ (Posts: 32; Member since: 11 Jun 2013)


@VZWuser76:

you already said that not everyone is going to like everything. My point was, if you do not like a certain platform you can voice your discontent but not through bashing. There is a difference between constructive criticism and destructive trolling.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 07:42 1

65. andro. (Posts: 1936; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


I always said that ive never seen any customer interest in windows phones which was true until the lumia 520, its continually sell out and have customers regularly asking when its back in stock

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 08:43 2

82. kindlefireowner (Posts: 336; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


You have no clue as usual. There will be a third OS that will occupy the "Sprint position" A solid 3rd place alternative to Android and IOS, and it will be Window phones.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 09:43

94. Nasheer_B (Posts: 10; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)


Is it me or did the thumbs down button disappear?

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 10:42 2

101. SonyXperiaNexus (Posts: 374; Member since: 01 Oct 2012)


its been gone since yesterday, before apples' event, you can guess why. It was supposed to be antitroll measures but to me it seems more like encouraging trolls.

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 09:09

152. Nasheer_B (Posts: 10; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)


What's so special about Apple products?

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 10:32 1

96. Dastrix (Posts: 574; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)


Clearly, your opinion is flawed. Stop making us laugh. Instead of arguing subjectively, learn to face the facts, retard. Oh, but I almost forgot. You're too immature to understand what I just said, and probably can't even develop any constructive argument because judging by your grammar and vocabulary, you sound like a mentally unstable kid who's so full of hate that all you can ever do is throw up sh!t from your mouth. What a terrible childhood you must've gone though! I'm going to say this again, fair and square. Truth hurts, I know. Your bullsh!t isn't enlightening us in any way. So, the least you can do is STFU or GTFO!

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 10:34

97. haseebzahid (Posts: 1812; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


yeah right NEXT

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 10:54

104. shobhit (Posts: 13; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


where is my dislyk button

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 13:06

120. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)


Don't say wp is"fail", they get " HURT ", respect their feeling. My first smartphone is wp7 (hd7), very smooth and very fast, the sad thing is. .. very fast batt drainer and very fast to return to retailer and get the Android lag phone and until now I enjoy the lag ;-).

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 09:14 1

87. boosook (Posts: 927; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


You know what's the destiny of an OS supported by only one manufacturer, right? ;)

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 10:37 4

99. haseebzahid (Posts: 1812; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


what about Apple :P

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 13:09

121. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)


+1 for that ;-).

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 19:46

132. wurmZ (Posts: 32; Member since: 11 Jun 2013)


@boosook:

dominance

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 22:53

142. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


This is what MS wants wanted all along. Samsung and HTC probably only did WP phones because of lawsuits.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 22:57

144. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Also...as an OEM:

WP - compete with many other OEM's and pay a license fee for the OS.
Android - compete with many other OEM's and the OS is free.

Seems like a no brainer to me.....

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 03:38

2. dangchitrung (Posts: 57; Member since: 04 Apr 2012)


How much is the fee?

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 04:22 3

21. bbblader (Posts: 575; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


15$ per handset i think

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 08:09

75. -box- (Posts: 3728; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


My question exactly. Microsoft makes $15 per Android sold, so it would be silly to make their own fee higher

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 08:40 3

80. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)


Microsoft...
Just give it a free
No need fees just like Android..xp

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 03:40 6

3. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5575; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Hmm. I doubt MS expected this outcome. Maybe they should just acquire Nokia and get into the phone bidness like Apple?

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 04:27 5

22. raunak (Posts: 501; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)


Yeah, because Nokia is just waiting to be acquired.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 04:59

28. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 494; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)


i think there are talks about this but nokia maybe is the one refusing. I think it will be a win win for both company. Then we'll have a head to head match up with APPLE-GOOGLE-MICROSOFT.

iPhone - Motorola - Nokia..

then comes Tizen for Samsung to join the party.. :)

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 05:05 5

30. alterecho (Posts: 1071; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


No. Nokia should acquire Windows Phone. Nokia already owns it virtually. They just need to do it officially. They can make it million times better than it already is, since Microsoft seems to be too busy these days, trying to push the XBOX as a TV replacement, to release on an update for WP.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 05:51 3

39. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2400; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


You seriously think that Nokia would accept this?

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 06:29

45. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5575; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


If the price was right, Nokia shareholders would compel the sale.

MS needs to get into the mobile space. Nokia is starting to edge out other potential 'partners' from playing in the space. Ballmer doesn't strike me as a laid-back kind of guy. Nokia's share price is on the low side.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 06:38 1

48. steelicon (Posts: 309; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)


With Elop & Co., every f$ckup is possible.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 03:40 3

4. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)


Samsung HTC LG sony zte huawei motorola = Android and for all :)

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 07:30 2

60. wurmZ (Posts: 32; Member since: 11 Jun 2013)


what makes android successful is the price. most manufacturers even the least known companies in china make android phones is similar with the comments of TROLL_cheap.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 09:19 1

91. boosook (Posts: 927; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


This is the excuse that WP fans used in the first period, when there were only high-end WP phones around. They said: "Android sells because it's cheap", deliberately ignoring the millions of high-end droids sold by Samsung and others. The truth was that manufacturers were selling BOTH cheap and expensive droids.
What's more, now that we also have cheap WP phones (and many times WP handsets are cheaper than equivalent Android handsets, because otherwise they won't sell), we see that this argument is not so true...

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 14:39 1

124. milesboy5 (Posts: 142; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)


By the time Windows Phone offered its cheap phones Android had already taken over that market and had much more brand recognition so therefore it makes sense as to why Microsoft has had trouble in the low-end of the smartphone market.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 22:39

140. wurmZ (Posts: 32; Member since: 11 Jun 2013)


@milesboy5:

thanks for the defense and you hit my argument.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 22:38

139. wurmZ (Posts: 32; Member since: 11 Jun 2013)


@boosook:

another reason why android is successful is that android fans crave the feel of an iphone yet they cannot afford to buy one so they sort to cheaper phones that somehow satisfy their urge. I know what you feel. Those so-called high-end phones, Galaxy label is overused to confused unlearned buyers as long as SAMSUNG print is there.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 03:44 2

5. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 789; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


Makes complete sense, MS doesn't allow differentiation and they think they can run WP the same way they do Windows, mobile is a different game altogether, sooner they learn that the better.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 03:45

6. steelicon (Posts: 309; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)


this = Chinese manufacturers like Acer, Asus and ZTE intended on launching Windows Phone 8 handsets in 2013 but have now pushed back their plans. Here, the main reasons are Microsoft’s unwillingness to lower the high licensing fees for its mobile platform and Nokia’s strong positions. Microsoft holds a tight grip on Windows Phone and that also makes it harder to differentiate.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 03:50 4

7. roscuthiii (Posts: 1785; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Hmm... perhaps Victor missed this article posted by Daniel not even an hour earlier: http://www.phonearena.com/news/First-image-of-the-Windows-Phone-8-HTC-Tiara-leaks_id43935

You guys really need better communication, or at least to get on the same page.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 04:03

12. procol (Posts: 16; Member since: 28 Feb 2013)


Remember the fact HTC was the company which made the deal with Facebook for HTC First with the hope of decent sales. They are desperate now and trying everything shortsightedly whether it's good move or not.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 06:56 1

55. roldefol (Posts: 2858; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


HTC must recognize there's an opportunity to sell in the low-midrange, but in the US they don't want to dilute their Android presence (unlike previous years). WP8 is their key to that part of the market.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 03:53 3

8. McLaren (unregistered)


Would have been the same if Nokia also adopted Android as well.But no they want to be WP exclusive!!!
Miss u Nokia,but Samsung and Sony are relieving the pain now!! B)

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