Microsoft may release its own phone "in the coming months"
Another source disputed a Fall ship date, claiming that Microsoft will not be introducing their phone in the initial round of WP8 handsets (expected to start shipping in November) and that the phone will probably be withheld until after the holiday shopping season. Either way these sources seem to think a phone will ship long before next summer.
What are we to make of all these rumors? All three add credence to the rumors we heard over the summer that Microsoft was designing its own phone hardware, so at this point it seems like there may be too much rumor smoke for there not to be a real fire. Also, it squares with Microsoft’s attitude it has adopted with tablets, where Microsoft is clearly willing to threaten its OEM partners in an attempt to ensure that cutting-edge hardware exists to run its software.
As for the timing, it’s possible that these rumors aren’t as far apart as they seem. It’s easy to envision Microsoft quietly preparing a smartphone just as it made its Surface tablets in secrecy, being ready to announce them in they found the initial WP8 hardware to be lacking. So the phone is probably ready for a Fall launch, but they may have deemed the initial round of phones by Samsung, HTC, Nokia, and others to be good enough to not risk alienating them by launching their phone so soon. This will let Microsoft watch how WP8 sales play out over the holiday season before deciding on when (or if) they will wade into the smartphone fray with their own hardware offering.
To be honest we think it would be very exciting to see Microsoft make a handset with the craftsmanship they showed off during their announcement of the Surface tablets, but it would be a shame if the Windows Phone ecosystem lost much of its hardware variety if spurned OEMs fled to Android, or some new alternative like BB10 or Firefox OS. We imagine Microsoft is trying to balance that exact same set of concerns themselves…
1. steelicon posted on 02 Oct 2012, 13:18 5
Elop, Nokia Board of Directors and Nokia is screwed. Long live Symbian!
10. -box- posted on 02 Oct 2012, 14:38 7
It's still good. Just got the Belle Feature Pack 2 on my 701, and while it was fast before, it FLIES now. Excepting particular apps, there's nothing Android can do that Symbian can't, and there's a good amount that Symbian can do no other mobile OS is currently capable of, notably USB-On-The-Go and various codecs it can run
15. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Oct 2012, 14:59 4
"...there's nothing Android can do that Symbian can't..."
Symbian isn't so 'flexible' like Android. For example hacking, go to www.hackaday.com , how many hacks for Symbian do you see? Zero!
Have you ever heard about Google ADK and Arduino?
Does Symbian or iOS can give such opportunity for us? NO!
And such thigs are very important because such things gives ability for people to create and innovate and it is very important! A lot of innovations can be made using this which will help in our live!
18. chaoticrazor posted on 02 Oct 2012, 15:34 6
mate first, nokia bring alot of innovation to the table
second symbian is still one of the best fuctional OS's around, android mite have all the ey candy but symbian is still powerful.
belle fp2 on my 808 can match the latest android and iOS on performance. as for hacking there are mods and custom roms for symbian
21. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Oct 2012, 15:55 3
"mate first, nokia bring alot of innovation to the table"
By commnet #15, I didn't denied the fact that Nokia bring a lot of innovations.
"second symbian is still one of the best fuctional OS's around, android mite have all the ey candy but symbian is still powerful."
As you can see my comment was reply to "...there's nothing Android can do that Symbian can't...".
"as for hacking there are mods and custom roms for symbian"
I was talking not only about software hacking, I was talking about hardware hacking.
31. chaoticrazor posted on 02 Oct 2012, 16:51 4
all im saying is android aint the perfect OS many on here believe it to be, and im bored of the one sided way things are on here
''Does Symbian or iOS can give such opportunity for us? NO!''
who are ''us'' what this collective term for , surely you mean for you as in android is your personal preference for that reason
32. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Oct 2012, 17:14 0
"all im saying is android aint the perfect OS many on here believe it to be, and im bored of the one sided way things are on here"
I'm not saying that Android is perfect OS. As I have said before, my commnet #15 was just response to "...there's nothing Android can do that Symbian can't...".
"who are ''us'' what this collective term for , surely you mean for you as in android is your personal preference for that reason"
No! By saying "for us" I mean all smartphone users.
33. chaoticrazor posted on 02 Oct 2012, 17:23 4
well all smartphone users will have differant preferences
i choose symbian because i know it, its customizable and easy to use, and plays most video files straight out the box.
ive looked at andrid but until an android phone has a camera that equals the 808 i wont be switching.
besides some smartphone users dont want customization, thats where iOS and wp8 come in
35. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Oct 2012, 17:43 1
"well all smartphone users will have differant preferences"
Yes, I agree with you, all smartphone users have differant preferences but I was talking not about preferences, I just answered to: "...there's nothing Android can do that Symbian can't...". I told that THERE IS!
"ive looked at andrid but until an android phone has a camera that equals the 808 i wont be switching."
So your main reason choosing the smartphone is camera?
"besides some smartphone users dont want customization, thats where iOS and wp8 come in"
I agree, some smartphone users don't want customization but even they can still use Android because there is no rule that you must customize it if you use Android! And anyway I wasn't talking about customization.
36. chaoticrazor posted on 02 Oct 2012, 17:53 3
pretty much yes i like to have the best camera on my phone, went from the nokia n8 to the 808 as nothing else could compete in that category. plus as ive said before i know my way round symbian.
''I agree, some smartphone users don't want customization but even they can still use Android because there is no rule that you must customize it if you use Android!''
maybe not everyone wants android, maybe there are better options for them with other OS's
me ive looked at android and wouldnt mind a phone running it but just doesnt offer what i look for in one package yet , also im looking to see how wp8 turns out although i know it will be pretty restristed in terms of customizing.
just saying android isnt right for everyone
38. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Oct 2012, 17:58 1
"maybe not everyone wants android, maybe there are better options for them with other OS's"
"...also im looking to see how wp8 turns out although i know it will be pretty restristed in terms of customizing."
I also don't think that WP is bad OS, but I think that WP still need more time to evolve and it should become a really good OS.
40. chaoticrazor posted on 02 Oct 2012, 18:11 2
well like android has done, in 2-3 years im hoping wp8 will be a mature and great OS. sure it'll take time but i dont get why so many think its failed before its begun
everything needs to evolve, its why iOS is loosing ground and becoming stale. nothing can stay the same and be on top
43. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Oct 2012, 18:18 0
I don't think that WP is failed.
41. CX3NT3_713 posted on 02 Oct 2012, 18:12 0
You guys got off topic....., js.... Microsoft should release a phone :-)
44. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Oct 2012, 18:19 1
Sorry, CX3NT3_713 :D
39. PotDragon posted on 02 Oct 2012, 18:04 3
As close as every flagship model is now, choosing the best camera is actually not that bad an idea.
42. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Oct 2012, 18:17 0
I agree, different people has different priorities.
In my case I used to choose smartphone by looking at the all specifications not only to camera parameters since smartphone is multifunctional device.
34. TROLL (limited) 5 days ago posted on 02 Oct 2012, 17:28 0
Phone.A.user you have corrected the right way to write, which he wrote wrong! "Are you studying English"....?
37. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Oct 2012, 17:53 0
LOL! Where? :D
No, at the moment I'm not studying English, but yes, I had English lessons at the school and then in the college.
My native language isn't English and I know that my English grammar is away from perfect. :)
52. EspHack posted on 02 Oct 2012, 23:33 1
well im a symbian user, used to be a fanboy too, still prefer it over android, but i have to say you are wrong, there is not even a proper video call app available for symbian, youtube doesnt let you go above 240p, im a bit desperate for the LM920 really
53. bkb01 posted on 03 Oct 2012, 00:12 1
dont get me wrong coming from an n8 usb otg was also very important for me thats why the sgs2 replaced my n8 (now with the missus):) it also has usb otg out of the box, and speaking of codecs, i remember, i remember the n8 had a limit in terms of watching vids, the thing is i just transfer a 4gb blueray ripped movie in my s2 and it plays with no probs. only thing i miss really is the fm transmitter, man that was cool;)
12. AliNSiddiqui posted on 02 Oct 2012, 14:46 2
I really hope you're kidding... Elop is a retard.. Symbian is a less buggy, more stable, more feature-rific, and less taxing on the battery version of Android... Right now, Android has no competition, I mean, people like me who want a desktop-like experience on their phones only have Android.... If Elop had half a brain, Symbian would be up there, and so would Nokia..
29. TROLL (limited) 5 days ago posted on 02 Oct 2012, 16:37 2
Much better than Windows closed eco-system.
49. Jonathan41 posted on 02 Oct 2012, 19:56 1
A few years ago Symbian was the way to go. The N series was one of if not the best line of smartphones on the market. I LOVE my Nokia N95 8GB and nobody had a better phone then me when it was in its prime. Symbian just waited to late to update is OS. Not it's playing catch-up and it's losing, bad. The Nokia N97 was the turning point for me. It was slow and buggy the entire time I used it. It did not preform as advertised. Symbian had it's time but, the outlook is not looking very good for the OS right .
50. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Oct 2012, 20:06 1
"I LOVE my Nokia N95 8GB and nobody had a better phone then me when it was in its prime."
The same with me, I'm still have my Nokia N95 8GB somewhere in one of drawers. :)
54. bkb01 posted on 03 Oct 2012, 00:16 1
my symbian devices were n95 8gb then replaced it with the n82(still one of the best cameraphones for me, nothing beats it xenon flash) , then n8 (also for the camera, usb to go and fm transmitter), natural progression from symbian is really android for its customizations, teaks, custom roms, freedom just like symbian:)
26. TROLL (limited) 5 days ago posted on 02 Oct 2012, 16:04 3
Long live Symbian Meego and Maemo....
4. bbblader posted on 02 Oct 2012, 13:30 5
microsoft's phone may not have the following:
PW,PM HD+,Nokia Maps,Nokia Drive,other nokia features so why choose MS more than 920 anyway?
3. PhenomFaz posted on 02 Oct 2012, 13:29 5
This was expected after Nokia's butt-headed pricing strategy for the Nokia Lumia 920. Its been sold at 25% higher price than the Galaxy S3 making Lumia 920 thee costliest phone! And based on what?...An unproven OS, supposedly killer hardware which by all means is commonplace now and will be midrange hardware come January or is it the awesome reviews Nokia got by showing fake video?
The way I see it "Nokia Screwed Nokia!"
Way to go Microsoft! Hardware and software integration is the future after all!
+1 to MS
5. bbblader posted on 02 Oct 2012, 13:35 4
midrange? Puremotion HD+,PureView that was shown a real video too and engadget's videos and pics and even though there is ''only'' dual core which for wp8 is enough to match a quad core android phone for sure
14. AliNSiddiqui posted on 02 Oct 2012, 14:49 2
PureMotion HD+ is only an advancement in the LCD department... AMOLEDs have a lower refresh rate than a second! And you think a dual core is enough to match a Quad Core on Android? lol.. okay..
24. aquadust posted on 02 Oct 2012, 16:02 3
well... every display technology has it's own flaws... many amoled screens have color tint especially in white areas, amoled color spectrum is not as accurate as IPS LCD (that's why all highend TVs are plasmas or LCDs and all professional graphic monitors are IPS or SPVA), power consumption of amoled screen is higher than LCD while displaying bright colors, many amoled screens are oversaturated because dynamic contrast is enabled by default (this is something that many people don't know) what can cause posterization and highlight clipping. I would prefer IPS screen over amoled, just check comparision of iphone5 IPS LCD vs galaxy S3 amoled screen. also it seems there is a problem with amoled technology to maintain as high ppi as for IPS LCD. AFAIK there is no 720p amoled screen under 4.7" and so on... I would say it depends on what do you want from your screen... If you are looking for fast pitch black screen go for amoled, if you are looking for accurate and extremely detailed screen go for IPS LCD.
16. PhenomFaz posted on 02 Oct 2012, 15:08 2
dude get over marketing gimmicks and see through to the reality! Nothing beatss Amoled screens...do some research on the tech behind these screens..then speak
"The truth will set you free!"
51. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Oct 2012, 21:04 4
"...do some research on the tech behind these screens..then speak..."
Actually you should do some researches and then speak because at the moment OLED based screens has more disadvantages than advantages and those disadvantages are pretty essential !
57. PhenomFaz posted on 03 Oct 2012, 04:11 0
THE WAY I SEE IT WHEN IT COMES TO TOUCH OLED screens have the advantage...most of the smartphones are TOUCH.
6. jimjam posted on 02 Oct 2012, 13:35 3
With all the freakish and garish colors on offer from the OEMs I hope Microsoft come up with something different
11. -box- posted on 02 Oct 2012, 14:40 2
I have little reason to believe this to be true. Microsoft is paying too much money to Nokia to also develop its own phones.
13. shadowcell posted on 02 Oct 2012, 14:47 0
And yet they released their own Windows RT tablet. If they're in the hardware business, they ARE in the hardware business.
25. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Oct 2012, 16:03 3
They already was in the hardware business.
Mouses, Keyboards, Webcams, Xbox, Kinect and more...
17. antoninslejska posted on 02 Oct 2012, 15:11 0
I think the question is not, if Microsoft comes with its own phones. The question is, what will be the next step. Notebooks?
19. theBankRobber posted on 02 Oct 2012, 15:45 1
You can't call something of your own if you don't own the parts, same goes for Apple. Samsung owns its parts but not the OS, except for bada which isn't really big. Lol just throwing mud around haha
22. darkknight posted on 02 Oct 2012, 15:56 2
I hope that MS comes out with their phone, at least we have more than one giant on wp side and finally it will be for all users benefit.
23. beefsupreme posted on 02 Oct 2012, 15:58 1
I wouldn't be suprised if they did eventually release a phone since windows 8 and wp8 is supposed to help connectivity between phones, tablets, and computers. They already make two of them so why not go for all of them.
27. AhmadAlsayegh posted on 02 Oct 2012, 16:23 0
the only thing I have in mind is both Nokia and MS have magnificent R&D! What will happen? Will this boost innovation? Will this kill Nokia? Or will Microsoft fail with their device? Oh God, tons of possibilities!
28. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Oct 2012, 16:26 1
"Will this boost innovation?" - Yes!
"Will this kill Nokia?" - No!
"Or will Microsoft fail with their device?" - Maybe yes or maybe no (50/50).
47. TROLL (limited) 5 days ago posted on 02 Oct 2012, 19:29 0
i believe and it will kill Nokia, and fail with their device.
30. krimHD posted on 02 Oct 2012, 16:38 3
Nokia shouldn't have dropped symbian..Elop will soon be fired, i give him till march 2013
46. TROLL (limited) 5 days ago posted on 02 Oct 2012, 19:26 2
Fire him right now. And the bord.
55. pikapowerize (banned) posted on 03 Oct 2012, 00:24 0
symbian just need a huge support! but nokia is acting like gay not to support it! fp2 is amazing!
45. pikapowerize (banned) posted on 02 Oct 2012, 19:13 1
i hope this is true! and in order for microsoft to differenciate its surface phone is that they should be the first one to release a WP with quadcore!
56. Nokiafan9 posted on 03 Oct 2012, 01:13 0
Nokia should fire Elop. I think if Nokias had spent time on innovating Symbian FP2 and Meego instead of WP, Nokia would be have a great success than now.
Symbian FP2 + meego that can run Symbian Apps and Android App = killer OS or SymbianMee. It sounds great. But really regreat for nokia, now, you are walking to kill yourself and Nokia fan.