HTC plans to face Apple lawsuits head-on
66. MeoCao (unregistered)
SS lost the case and yet GS3 sales in US surged right after. So it looks like Apple can't win no matter what.
This is a good lesson to HTC.
71. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)
but Apple is so rotten that they can win it at all and again very
SUSPICIOUSLY they will win 10 vs. 0 with
and monopolizing has started.....
hope Google will behave the same way and will ban iPhones and iPads because of
blatant copying by Apple:
goo [dot] gl/04pud
2. Aeires (unregistered)
And that's the best way to stand up to a bully.
7. Mxyzptlk (limited) (Posts: 3510; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Defending your property isn't bullying.
12. Ravail (Posts: 181; Member since: 14 Oct 2011)
Lol? Property? If apple could patent Black and White Phones they would..
13. weinerslav (Posts: 126; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
I'm not sure if stolen property can be called your property to beggin with... so yep, it's bullying
29. ardent1 (Posts: 1994; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Your are entitled to your opinion. However, the FACT is the a jury of 9 individuals have stated otherwise and stated it in no uncertain terms.
43. JonBjSig (Posts: 176; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
They also stated that the Nexus S 4G infringes on bounceback overscrolling.
The FACT that they were the jury doesn't make them infallible.
46. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
You seem to forgot or choose to over look the FACT that the jury actually made mistakes.... saying some Samsung product(s) infringed when in FACT they didnt.
Your Apple blindness is showing.
48. Mxyzptlk (limited) (Posts: 3510; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
They didn't make any mistakes. Explain to me why does Samsung's early Android phones feel so familiar to the iphone? That is why they are being sued by Apple.
49. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Talking about actual facts sir. Some Samsung device(s) that the jury said didnt infringe got lumped in with the ones they said did.
That my friend is called a mistake. Remember how the orig damages got subtracted some? If you dont.....maybe you need to go back and re read the outcome when the verdict was announced.
58. mrbtree (Posts: 59; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
jury skipping over samsung's prior art was a big one and their excuse was "it was bogging them down"
57. mrbtree (Posts: 59; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
yet cases overseas had different results with apple LOSING. south korea, iphone 4/4s and ipad banned. uk, apple forced to admit through newspapers, news channels, etc that samsung did not copy the ipad. only in the us can court cases like this happen.
47. Mxyzptlk (limited) (Posts: 3510; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
You know Google didn't create Android right?
61. zhypher_23 (Posts: 195; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)
You know that Apple stole iOS UI right? *Sony's Icon Grid Menu
65. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
They didn't make android. That's a fact. BUt one thing I know is true, is that google improved android from scratch. They innovated it. And hey, did you know that most of the innovations of "apple" didn't came from them?
And as what you said above, it's not bullying if they're protecting their property. AHM! not exactly. What they're protecting here is their market share. They only sue companies that they see as a threat. Why would you not call that bullying if all they want is a monopolistic market? IF they really intend to protect their property(as what US patent office approved, the rectangular design with round corners), then they should have started suing chinese company like "meizu" and "goophone" for actually, copying the exact iPhone.
See what apple did there? They would only sue you if you're a threat.
And another thing here is that, I don't get their attitude because as what their great founder said "Good artists copy great artists steal". And now, they're so mad with companies trying to get some hints on their designs?
I'm not an android fanboy or even an apple's. I just don't see the logic on their moves. If their intention is clear as water, they would sue every company that exists with a rectangular slab with rounded corners designed phones.
They hate samsung because it's the number 1 maker of smartphones. Have you heard something like apple suing LG? No. Because again, it's not a threat.
67. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4000; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
You know Apple didn't make Siri, right?
You know Apple stole the design for the iPhone 4, right?
You know Apple keeps trying to patent and sue for things that are only practical, and is trying to force everyone to make something like a purple hexagon, because apparently no one can make a black rectangle. Which is basically like telling everyone to get out of the mobile industry, because no one would buy it.
You know Apple is just suing everyone because they're scared of losing market share to a better product, right?
I can state some facts too, you know. A lot of people know Google didn't make Android. But Apple hardly makes anything. Google might not have made Android, but they have improved it incredibly. The same can't be said for iOS, as it has had the same basic UI for 6 years.
74. flamencoguy (Posts: 94; Member since: 04 Aug 2012)
You know Apple did not create the Mac OS right. It came from NeXT and NeXT came from BSD Unix.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXTSTEP
32. JC557 (Posts: 1038; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
You should get a look at TouchFlo, TouchFlo 3D and all of HTC's Windows Mobile handiwork (made those phones very usable). This was in development for a long time.
...Bouncy scroll is not original.
28. ardent1 (Posts: 1994; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
I recommended to Samsung about 2 years ago -- apologize and make amends to Apple. Instead Samsung blows through hundreds of millions of legal bills, and their legal bill continues to grow no less, and then face the uncertainity over the $1 billion judgement. All in the process advertise to the world that Samsung willingly and knowingly stole IP as adjudicated in a court in the US. In response, people are dumping their Samsung devices in droves based on the used Samsung handset prices in the secondary or aftermarket. Obviously, not a smart move by Samsung to lose money and brand equity.
Now let's look at HTC that is getting crushed and being marginalized as a handset OEM. As you know, HTC is pulling out of markets due to poor market share as they products are not that compelling or competitive. As they make less money from less profitable devices while the competition is stepping up the R&D game and as HTC continues to sink more money into its legal sinkhole, I think the end game for HTC is easy to predict.
There's a reason why Apple chose legal action against HTC.
36. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
dont get your last point about people dumping there samsung phones
40. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
as always the us in not the world...for now they have been found guilty of copying no surprise its what i expected all along from the us courts. also samsung have found not to be copying apple in other courts ie the uk...this case will not harm samsung the way you suggesting and theres always the appeal and honestly i believe they may actually win especially with some of the comments being made by the jurors after case and also samsung will be able to show the documents that were not allowed in this case as they were submitted too late..oh yeah i just walked outside and saw people ''dumping'' there samsung phone lol like average joe cares about these lawsuits..
44. Aeires (unregistered)
Your delusion just grows by leaps and bounds. From where in the world do you get the opinion people are dropping Samsung devices in droves? Seriously, 'fact checker', show us some data to back that stupidity up.
And now you're a consultant to Samsung, or did you just write one of your off base opinions on a tech site, hoping Samsung would read it and take it to heart.
Sounds like you need a serious break from the internet, after the nerd rage you posted earlier this week, followed by this delusion, your comments are headed in the wrong direction.
3. wendygarett (unregistered)
Please... Everybody know that HTC is nothing but a Chinese company who love to pirate the product... You call that innovation? Get ready to be Sued!!!
14. Peter27 (Posts: 233; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
Thumbed you down by mistake. So sorry about that. Is there a way how can I un-thumb you ?
8. Mxyzptlk (limited) (Posts: 3510; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Need to brush on that geography. HTC is a Taiwanese company. That means it is in Taiwan.
9. theCHOSENone (Posts: 2; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)
you don't believe in the HTC sense?
started out with windows mobile 6.5 if you recall
33. JC557 (Posts: 1038; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
It started out as TouchFlo and was in development around the same time as iOS, possibly earlier IIRC.
10. wendygarett (unregistered)
Hey hey !!! I say I was sarcastic tho...
Anyway take that Apple!!! :D
75. flamencoguy (Posts: 94; Member since: 04 Aug 2012)
You're using an Asian avatar. Where is the rainbow Apple? Taiwan makes all of the world's laptops and most of the MBs etc etc. They don't need to copy or pirate.
5. MartyK (Posts: 711; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
I think HTC saw how Samsung's atty mess up the trial.
Samsung atty should had ask this Judge to "Recuse" herself from day one. she show straight contempt for the lead atty Quinn.
She showed lack of knowledge of smart phones ( how to factory reset) in their appearance from the factory.
She showed lack of knowledge to "Prior Art".
She was just plain one sided when it came to the case.
6. ajac09 (Posts: 1367; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
and they will fall. Why? Becaue Americans will choose a s**tty company when it comes to lawsuits over a foreign one an day so many people thinking just becasue an American company wins its good. its not. Apple aka the US government of the Eletronics world.
15. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)
Steve Jobs was right.. Apple will take one Android art a time. first was Samsung now comes HTC, Here is a message for the rest.. run and don't look back.. Moto you were smart to run into Google's corner stay there..
21. Aeires (unregistered)
Says the crazy robot chicken. Apparently not familiar with the appeals process.
30. ardent1 (Posts: 1994; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Aeires, you are being a bloviator again. Clearly Apple's just results are causing you some mental anguish as evidenced by your posts of late.
45. Aeires (unregistered)
Go take a long look in the mirror and remove the camel from your eye.
52. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)
didnt you read it here in PA Samsung will lose that one too..
25. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
you do know that the trial is not really over and is likely go on and on with appeals and appeals etc...
31. ardent1 (Posts: 1994; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
The trial may not be over but Samsung is blowing through hundreds of millions of dollars in legal bill. Samsung set up a $200 million legal chest for 2012 and it looks like it may not be enough.
What is NOT helping Samsung is consumers dumping their devices based on the used handset markets.
41. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
how do you know its not enough also am sure samsung have plenty of money to put in another 200 if they need to...you do know samsung is not htc and like microsoft,google and apple actually have money to keep this going on forever if they need too.you talking as if this is the end for samsung just cause of this 1 case which is obvioulsy going to be appealed
70. SGSatlantis (Posts: 205; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
They are dumping them to buy a S3 or OneX, no way they are downgrading to an iPhone.
37. true1984 (Posts: 588; Member since: 23 May 2012)
you do know apple lost that same case in the uk right?
53. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)
the UK market does not compare to the U.S. here is where they need to win.. biggest smartphone country.. yes the iphone rules...
59. mrbtree (Posts: 59; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
i don't see the difference, they're both countries like every where else in the world, you both have mobile devices, america has 4g lte, uk is starting to bring it out and other countries like australia, japan, south korea, china have 4g/lte as well. just because america had it first by only a year + doesn't make you the king of the world. its like saying everywhere but america is a third world country. all countries have and use technology, just some have to wait for the demand to start showing up before telcos start to bring it out. only one telco in australia has 4g/lte right now with the others bringing it in next year.
63. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Oh...this is the iFan rationale...if it doesnt fit their argument...it doesnt matter.
68. mrbtree (Posts: 59; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
wait, me or chicken bot (gallitoking) because i'm pro android. (i have a lg optimus black)
64. IcyDevil_ (Posts: 2; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)
And BTW you should know US is not the biggest smartphone country, China is.
16. webOSlove (unregistered)
^^^i thumbs up by accident I meant to thumb down this comment
18. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6405; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Jeeze apple just don't want to stop BANNING FILING INJUNTIONS against competition. when ever they see a company makes a million dollars every qt they will sue. they don't WANT TO SEE THEIR GREEDY STOCK drop a penny
26. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
dont think htc have much to worry about...most of the samsung trial was around the old tw and who knows maybe htc can invalidate some of apples patents
35. true1984 (Posts: 588; Member since: 23 May 2012)
well sense looks nothing like ios so if they tried to sue htc they'll fail, badly no one can confuse an htc phone with ios
27. phelpst (Posts: 7; Member since: 19 May 2012)
Apple really needs to stop. They are mad that Android has stepped up and becoming better than them. The iPhone is ass and has a small ass screen. It really isn't fair that they think that they're design and software is well rounded. The apple software is one of the worst in my opinion. I can pick out many flaws in their software. I can also find more than a hand full of reasons to sue apple for being like android. If Steve Jobs was alive he would not have done any of this. Tim Cook has really ruined apple. Steve worried about how he could make his device better and not making lawsuits to good companies to make apple look better. All apple looks like now is a joke. Get over yourself apple. its going to be 2013 and Android is going to dominate you and your not gonna see it coming.