HTC One X and EVO 4G LTE have been placed in limbo due to an ITC exclusion order
From the looks of it all, this whole thing came about after HTC was found guilty of infringing on a patent from Apple last year. Soon afterwards, the US International Trade Commission went ahead and ruled that future imports of devices deemed as the offenders are to be totally barred from being sold. In fact, that specific order actually went into effect on April 19th, so HTC’s newest babies are going to be feeling the heat from all of it. HTC said in the statement:
So there you have it folks! It makes us all wonder if this whole thing had something to do with the recent sold out status of the HTC One X over at AT&T, but more importantly, we’re curious to know how this will affect the pending launch of the HTC EVO 4G LTE for Sprint. We’ve reached out to HTC for additional details regarding the matter.
source: HTC via Phonescoop
1. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3226; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Talk about bad timing. Maybe HTC should have been in more compliance with the ruling.
9. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
It is kind of annoying that HTC didn't get this settled sooner. I'm sure the devices in question aren't still infringing on Apple's patent; HTC would have to be run by incompetent morons. Still, if they had run this by the ITC, say, a month ago this situation could have been avoided, and I'd be nuzzling my shiny, new Evo to my chest for warmth and love and comfort come Friday. I'm very lonely (ronery), you see.
2. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Sprint moved its Evo promo from first on its homepage to fourth. I wonder why... In a possibly related note, Sprint also claims "supplies are limited!" Perhaps a few got through the blockade...
PA, instead of the Monopoly Guy, I personally suggest that you use a picture of the Trade Federation blockading Naboo. It seems more apt...
4. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
im with ya on the naboo thing. monopoly dude doesnt really fit the story
10. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Star Wars can't fill the gaping void in my chest that not having an Evo 4G LTE on time has created. Only perhaps a Galaxy S III could do that...
12. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
As if finals week hadn't crushed my spirits already... God, my problems are so first-world!
This article sort of warms my heart, I guess:
16. chosenone1606 (Posts: 1; Member since: 15 May 2012)
I am a sprint employee and I can confirm that we are only getting 2 of the htc evo 4g lte phones on friday
19. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Well, it's nice to know that some are getting through, but I don't think a Choice Sprint franchise in Roseville, MN will be too high on the priorities list. Maybe I'm mistaken, and at any rate I'll be heading over there first thing Friday morning to check on the situation, because I did reserve one.
3. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Ok, this monkey business has gone too far.
Exactly how is the OneX and Evo infringing on that poor little bullied iphone?
And why is HTC still violating patents that they were found guilty of months and months ago? If they were violating patents, wouldnt the original shipments of the device been stopped long before they went on sale??? its not like the FCC didnt know exactly what was in those phones.. they do have to get certified and all.
5. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 831; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)
Apple just plain sucks, this won't make me buy an iProduct at all. In fact I will steer far away from them. Too bad they can't come up with mind boggling intellectual property ideas like they did when they 1st introduced the iPhone. To me they seem to try to best competition by making frivolous filed patent claims. I can't believe they are so petty that they try to cripple competition this way. Keep up the good work Apple you will be falling faster than a ton of bricks when WP8 catches on
35. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
I hate them too. Why would you run around suing everyone over complete bulls**t? It makes no sense. Gah.
6. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
From what I've read on the subject over the last ten minutes, it looks like the ITC is just looking in to whether or not the Evo/One X infringes on the patent. Assuming that they don't (because HTC would be the worst run business in history if they did) hopefully this thing can be settled by Wednesday or Thursday.
20. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
...Okay, thumbs-me-down for actually doing research this time. Maybe If I just spouted whatever was at the top of my head (like I normally do) you wouldn't be so harsh, Mystery Critic!
47. 14545 (Posts: 1063; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Yeah, but why hold them up to verify? Let them through and let HTC pay apple if they do. Which I'm sure it doesn't. But in this case, with Apple delaying HTC, HTC should sue for lost sales on their devices.
8. ngo2dd (Posts: 779; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
For people information, the patent is not related to the sense UI but the android UI. The Nexus one was the included in the sues. It has to do with hyperlink in the web and messaging app. Text a number to anyone will a vanilla phone and the number became a a hyperlink. This can effect all android phone
11. facelessbelief (Posts: 13; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
Apple. You make me Igiggle. Oh wait, did I infringe on your patent on the intelluctual property of the lower case i? Really Apple? So you are disabling your enemy with your billions of dollars? Poor iSheep. Apple has become the new big bad wolf of companies. Or maybe they are just so smart, that we should all bow to their almighty hammer of money.
The touchscreen that. Needs to really end. It is really starting to get old. Here is a thought, make a device to compete against the big boys. Instead of crying to the courts of lesser opionion.
13. Danalvi1981 (Posts: 47; Member since: 02 Jun 2010)
Oh pretty please settle this already!!! I really need my phone. Life without my HTC Evo 4g LTE is really gonna suck.
14. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Pssh, take a look at my screen (in the picture to the left) and tell me how much you need a new phone!
Just kidding, of course, I feel the same way as you do.
38. -box- (Posts: 3714; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
That's a tad melodramatic and hyperbolic, if we're fair... It's unfortunate and saddening not having the new toy, but you still have food, shelter, clean air to breathe, and more possessions probably on your person than some folks in the world have in total.
44. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Again, my problems are decidedly "first-world."
15. tiburonpineda (Posts: 39; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Nice one Apple, instead of compete is more easy for you sue the competition
17. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
This situation isn't Apple directly, it's the ITC. Whatever gripe Apple had with HTC, legitimate or not, HTC has more than likely eliminated the problem, or else they wouldn't continue selling in the U.S. This is a government problem now, not Apple. Like the article I posted from Android Police says, this is probably just an instance of some overzealous ITC drone desperate for attention because he's been stuck in the same job for forty years and wants a promotion, his wife recently left him, his kids never call, and he harbors at least a mild racism (okay, I'm definitely paraphrasing there, but you get the idea.)
18. tiburonpineda (Posts: 39; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
apple can't handle the competition. iphone's are for people who need technology training wheels and can't handle a real phone.
21. Jonathan41 (Posts: 526; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
This entire situation is unnecessary. Apple took it to far with this patent trash when they started suing everyone. They feel threatened. Steve Jobs felt threatened to so he went with this whole 'Androids a stolen technology' thing but, really it's just a dirty way to make money. Thats all Apple really want from Android is more money to impress investors with growing profits and destroy all competitors but, court wasn't the right way to do it.
22. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
While some blame does rest with Apple, don't forget that the ITC and HTC could've avoided this, if they had figured this all out ONE FREAKING WEEK AGO. It does seem fishy though that the embargo begins this late: why didn't this happen when T-Mobile started importing their One S three weeks ago? In fact, why aren't One S shipments even mentioned in this article? Are they not subject to the same regulations, or is the One S just selling so poorly that T-Mobile hasn't had to order any more? The more I think about this situation, the stranger it gets... Well, I'm studying for a Business Law final right now, and I just got to the Patent/Intellectual Property part, so if I come across anything that may be able to get HTC out of this predicament (haha, right...) I'll do my very best, although I'll just be happy to get a B- in the class, to be honest...
24. Jonathan41 (Posts: 526; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
I think its just a stunt! No real logic behind this other than using it as a scare tactic fo other manufactures.
27. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
It has to be. Nobody in their right mind honestly believes that HTC is still infringing on Apple's patent, so why would the ITC be so adamant to delay their business?
Hopefully it's just a matter of some simple software checkups, and then it's off to the stores with the Evos (and One X's, I guess, but I don't really care about them... at all.)
If I may give some advice to Sprint that obviously won't be heeded: don't wait until May 25 to launch these things, Friday is just an arbitrary day to begin with. Launch 'em as soon as they arrive. The fanfare has made its point, and there's no real purpose to having a grand unified launch event for something like this, especially after all this publicity the Evo is getting. Your already tenuous customer base will be getting very impatient every hour they don't have their Evos. I'm Kent Brockman and that was my two cents.
46. downphoenix (Posts: 2267; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
Sprint loves to make people wait. They after all didnt even announce the release date of the Galaxy Nexus until FIVE DAYS before it was coming out, WTF? But they sure loved bragging about when the LG Viper, a phone nobody cared about, was coming out several weeks before.
23. ananya22 (Posts: 93; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)
this just sucks. i just hope they give apple the money they want and start selling what apple can't i.e. good products. this is a really bad time for this to happen to htc. they cant blame it on apple, i mean everyone knows that apple is a greedy company that just wants to sell the sh*t it manufactures and they need to ban the good stuff of other companies like htc for that so they'll do it. they need to be prepared for the dirty tricks that the money hungry iMachine has up its sleeve. come on htc i wanna see you rise again just get out of this iMess ASAP. lemme go bash my ipad2 with a bat in the meantime.
25. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
And this, folks, is why Apple f**king sucks. Just another chapter in their long history of using the world's governments to control the market.
Oh boy, this is going to piss off a lot of customers.
30. gallitoking (Posts: 4682; Member since: 17 May 2011)
Why blame Apple when HTC knew this and decided to ignore it.. there is always two sides
31. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
The thing is we don't know whether or not HTC ignored it or not. It seems a little odd that they were able to slip hundreds of thousands of One S's and X's through, and the ITC doesn't decide to enforce its own regulation until almost a month after it is passed, conveniently just before the Evo launches. There's almost no information at this time other than the ITC stopped an HTC shipment of phones. I think we should all wait until at least tomorrow to place blame, when some explanations are delivered. The frustrating thing is that, if the ITC is in the wrong, what are they going to do? Say "oh, we're sorry" and leave it at that, with Sprint and HTC losing hundreds of millions of dollars?
I do agree with gallito that Apple is hardly to blame for this.
33. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
For all we know, HTC has been doing everything right to show it is in compliance, which I'm sure its products are by now. They wouldn't invest millions making and shipping a product they knew they could likely never sell. The government is just notoriously slow at getting things done. For instance, look at the years its taken for Motorola and Apple's lawsuits to get to court against each other. They filed those suits in TWO THOUSAND AND NINE.
50. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6142; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
no it's because is nothing BUT A BIG BULLY and is afraid of competition like u or any iFans don't want to admit or compete with any manufactuer. And HTC said they work around OEM. yet Apple still stop sales from HTC
26. niteryda8 (Posts: 19; Member since: 10 Jan 2012)
This is a jacked up situation, and it is CRAPPELS fault for starting it, but at this moment, this situation arose because of the ITC waiting for the right moment to pounce into action. You 2 high end Android devices launching respectively close to each with so much popularity building among the consumer without a sign of CRAPPEL being mentioned, so what do you do, stop one of the most anticipated phones of the year from entering the country right before its launch, and keep the other ones sales to a minimum. The ITC could have done this last month around the original deadline they gave HTC to have all the issues fixed, but that would make to much sense, and now CRAPPEL can possibly release another one of their iSuck devices with more attention leaning towards them, so they think.
28. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Apple is nowhere near to launching another device, so don't worry about that. If anything, this helps Samsung, as it likely pushes the Evo launch closer to the GSIII launch.
29. Jonathan41 (Posts: 526; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
Say whatever you want about the iPhone, it's not the problem. Apple is and they consistently get on my d*** nerves especial with this 'stolen technology' iTrash their b******* about while they sit back and add androids notification bar and folders to their OS and no one says a word.
32. Whateverman (Posts: 3187; Member since: 17 May 2009)
So THIS is what a monopoly is like, huh? We're not ther yet, but if this keeps up we will be soon.
34. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
If the iPhone ends up being the only option for smartphones I'll give them up for good.
It won't happen, but I would. Especially if it were to happen this way.
36. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
Same here. I'd build my own freaking smartphone. xD
37. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6142; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Way to go Apple to f**k up the comptetion. Android been using notification since 04' if i remember. Apple is screw a lot of consumers that wanted the ONE X N EVO LTE. But the EVO LTE havent launch yet. And this is another reason why I HATE THE BIG FRUIT. Stomping the competition.
39. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)
Does anyone besides me find it strange that the one s made it thru just fine, but the highly anticipated one x powerhouses get stopped, ironic is it not?
And also, the EVO LTE and ATT one x will be in direct competiton with ilame 4$, where as the one s went to t mobile, who doesn't sell the feature phone in question.............
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it looks to me like a certain fruit company is scared of what is lurking in the waters of htc............
42. downphoenix (Posts: 2267; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
Sprint begs for Apple to bring the iphone, they do.
Then Apple thanks them in return by barring Sprint's biggest phone of the summer.
I hope Dan Hesse is happy with the decision he made to bring Apple on board, I knew it was the first step of the company going downhill.
45. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
It looks like Apple doesn't want that 15 billion dollars from Sprint after all, they'd rather see them go bankrupt.
48. downphoenix (Posts: 2267; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
No, they still want it, Im sure when Sprint has to declare Chapter 7, Apple will be requisitioning every dime they can.
51. Danalvi1981 (Posts: 47; Member since: 02 Jun 2010)
WE might be seeing our phones by May 23. According to this articlehttp://taipeitimes.com/News/bi