Apple gaining market share in the U.S. as smartphone penetration passes 60%
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1. Tazer2365 (Posts: 40; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)
That's amazing at how Apple is gaining market share while it's OS is only available on their products while Android has their OS on many other companies and they seem to be slipping. iPhone 5S and iPhone 5C will extend that lead for Apple here in the US and I'm pretty sure around other places as well. Believe it or not, Apple is going good. Apple will continue to lead the industry with their amazing products. Go Apple!
11. Commentator (Posts: 1869; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
No, marketing pretty much sums it up, whether you're an iPhone fan or not.
14. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)
It's about quality. Of built, of apps, of OS and the overall experience.
26. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
It's about a culture in the US that has a lot more disposable income for devices and is willing to depart with said income. iOS is biggest in the US and not so much everywhere else, but you can't say only Americans are concerned about quality, build, and user experience.
People all over the world essentially want the same thing in what they purchase, their money's worth but the iPhone isn't selling as well outside the US so that says a lot about demographics.
31. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)
True, but Apple products are truly remarkable, not to say others have extremely inferior products, but the amount of thought and dedication they put in their products really shows when you use them. Their devices are just perfect for their intended use. Haters gonna hate but the fact remains, Apple puts efforts in their products great deal more than others. That is why they are the benchmarks in their class. Not because they are expensive.
32. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
Easy to do when you only make one phone a year. That's the path they chose and it works because people buy into, literally.
36. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)
My point exactly! Why make multiple copies of the same phone?! Its better if you put your efforts in one place rather than bombing the market with several hundreds of the same thing. Companies are just now realizing this. I'm not saying everything should only be high end, you can make a good low end device too, for ex. Nokia, they have been doing it for years. Their phones have a personality. But companies like Samsung are just doing quantity, not quality. You shouldn't cut+copy+paste everything.
39. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
You make is sound like others have inferior products because they produce so many handsets. Apple produces one new phone a year and has problems as well. Doesn't add up, especially when you consider how much money they make annually.
52. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)
I don't make it sound like that, it is like that, that is why i'm saying it. Apple has negligible problems and even they get fixed quickly.
18. tedkord (Posts: 3409; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Not really. It comes down to choice of mobile OS. If you want Android, you get many choices, even from the same manufacturer. If you want iOS, you can only choose Apple. Put iOS on multiple OEMs and you'd dilute Apples share, but increase iOS.
34. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 2439; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Many choices can cause problems, e.g. fragmentation. I like that I can get a clean, stable experience with iOS over Android where problems are a norm on many phones.
48. rusticguy (Posts: 2699; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Fragmentation like between 3GS and 5 not all users getting all features right?
53. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)
Still getting all the software upgrades possible. Being such an old phone.
66. saffant (Posts: 173; Member since: 04 Jul 2011)
Listen you idiot. Not everyone wants the same bloody 4" toy screen that the iPhone has. You 14 year old girls or the little midgets might like using a 4" screen to browse the web, but most people don't. It's almost laughable how much better browing on the S4 looks compared to the iPhone 5.
Until Apple comes out with at LEAST a 4.8" screen, they'll continue to be the second choice for most powerusers.
69. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)
Yes coz u insert 4.8 inch in your ass coz u like it big. Butthurt dumbass. Big screens dont make you a power user. Stop lying to urself.
76. saffant (Posts: 173; Member since: 04 Jul 2011)
"Yes coz u insert 4.8 inch in your ass coz u like it big."
wtf? What are you like, 14? Grow up dude. The fact that you consistently make these gay jokes says quite a bit about some hidden tendencies u got there. Go see a therapist perhaps.
60. maysider (Posts: 38; Member since: 11 Aug 2013)
Just an exception in US:
-US people don't mind PRISM 52%
-they can't choose any default browser
-they are not even able to choose the right phone size, Apple has to do all the decisions, they don't like freedom
So whatever Google does without a proper TV ad they will not succeed
US people are simply brainwashed and limited like the device they use
63. Ninetysix (Posts: 929; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
US is so limited that we have 6 out of the top 10 Universities in the world.
Here's the final result of the last olympics as well. Guess who got the most gold?
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72. maysider (Posts: 38; Member since: 11 Aug 2013)
You're from us, right? Now you show us how not smart really the Americans are.....
1) USA is the biggest capitalistic country
2) think twice, three times if it helps about the meaning of the word "average"
73. Sniggly (Posts: 6197; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
We can do without the inflammatory nationalistic bashing, thanks.
75. maysider (Posts: 38; Member since: 11 Aug 2013)
No no,a lot of Americans are good, just the assumptions according to the bright stats :)
They vote for war, vote for surveillance, ebook price fixing robbery by Apple....just easy to push them somewhere
67. djcody (Posts: 27; Member since: 17 Apr 2013)
Is just people wrong understanding, sample: my friend from work about 2 years ago got some phone (looks some like lg) bought for free with 2 years contract with Verizon, full price for phone that time is around 80$, he chose 2 year contract over to pay full price with basic android gingerbread phone. He don't like this phone. Now he got iPhone 4 for free again with 2 year contract(60$ a month), the contract get changed. He don't have any minutes, just unlimited text and data (3g of course), any extra minutes gonna put bill up. But phone working better. On the end of contract summary gonna be higher from beginning. Now when we compare my nexus4 with unlocked lte (T-Mobile network) 30$ a month he still waiting to open web when I going to another web, link. People do research don't be to lazy and over pay for phones and services. You do that when you don't have choice.
68. djcody (Posts: 27; Member since: 17 Apr 2013)
Test Date: Sep 7, 2013 10:46:58 AM
Connection Type: Lte
Server: Minnetonka, MN
Download: 17.35 Mbps
Upload: 6.16 Mbps
Ping: 48 ms
Just a sample
2. PapaSmurf (Posts: 4183; Member since: 14 May 2012)
BB10 lost market share while WP8 stayed the same. They're going against a duopoly with iOS and Android, which have been dominating since 2010.
4. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 2439; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Android is only dominant numbers wise because there's like a 1000 different variations of some phones. Apple still has the lead when it comes to profit. Plus the iPhone C will make the iPhone even more affordable opening more doors.
13. Shatter (Posts: 1653; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Almost half of the android phones are made by Samsung alone.
20. darkkjedii (Posts: 7776; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Lol man that is true. Sammy unified the hell outta their brand. Galaxy S4, note, zoom, gear, shoes, socks, toothpaste, ham, even the Milky Way Galaxy was made by Sammy some 13 billion years ago according to shatter.
49. tech2 (Posts: 823; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
That's called offering choice to consumers.
You may find it funny ridiculing their brand but the fact is they've made more profit in Q2 2013 than Apple in profit and that's a testament people like their product and appreciate choice.
Just because you don't find a use for a particular camera, water-resistant or a music centric phone that doesn't mean no one does.
54. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)
Is samsung the only company offering choices? HTC, Sony, Nokia, LG even ZTE offers choices. They're not all the same. Then why samsung? You can't add one useless feature to a phone and call it a new phone. And then keep doing it until you get in every price range in increments of $5. How will you support so many devices? Simple, you don't.
65. tech2 (Posts: 823; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Dude just chillax, I don't get the fact how does it bother you or anyone if they offer more choices ? I mean if you don't like a product then just don't buy it. This strategy is successful for them and has helped them make billions in profit.
And are you seriously arguing with me about Samsung's support ? The only reason why I would ever buy Samsung's product is because of their support. They give the best updates and because they sell millions they get quicker fixes (such is the case for Apple) Don't even get me started on HTC & LG's updates.
They were first to ship the device with Android 4.2 and will be first with 4.3 on Note 3 (of course not including nexus here). Also, they supported GS2 a 2010 model till 2013. Need I say more ?
70. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)
I don't have a problem with that bro, the discussion was about quality vs quantity. Ofcourse i dont buy their products coz i dont like them, im just putting forward my opinion. I dont "hate" samsung.
61. Ninetysix (Posts: 929; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Apple made more profit than Samsung broseph. Post #37.
19. tedkord (Posts: 3409; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Apple came in second to Samsung in profit last quarter, both overall and in mobile only.
27. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 438; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
That was erroneous reporting. The revised reports show Apple on top.
24. willard12 (Posts: 375; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
Sorry, but world-wide, the GS4 outsells the iphone 5 by itself. Apple does not lead in profit anymore, Samsung does. Please refer back to your previous comments where you had to relegate your point to "profit per device. " Your precious iphone 5c will ruin that argument for you. Apple has the lead in the US because only US carriers negotiate ridiculous subsidies that give people FREE iphone 4's ,4s, and soon 5s. Which will now be off-set by the 5c. I do like the fact that the iphone once had 60% market share on 1 carrier and now people are excited about 40% when even Virgin mobile and Cricket are pushing them.
25. willard12 (Posts: 375; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
37. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 438; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
Sorry, but the iPhone 5 outsells the GS4 everywhere, and that report was incorrect. They have since corrected it:
35. Sniggly (Posts: 6197; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
You do realize that prevailing intelligence on the iPhone 5c is that it's going to be a replacement for the spot that would be occupied by the 5 after the 5S goes on sale, right?
In other words, the order will be iPhone 5S at 200 bucks, iPhone 5C at 100 bucks, and iPhone 4S at free.
Furthermore, you cite the 1000 different variations as if it's a bad thing for customers to have choices.
45. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3270; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
There's a difference between choice and flooding the market, Sniggly. I mean, Samsung has released, what, 8 versions of the GS4 already?
Galaxy S4 E5O
Galaxy S4 Snapdragon 600
Galaxy S4 mini
Galaxy S4 Zoom
Galaxy S4 Active
Galaxy S4 LTE-A
Galaxy S4 Dual LTE
Galaxy S4 mini Dual LTE
I know some of them are only for select markets, but why can't they just have a more widespread version of the same phone? The mini, Active, and Zoom are ok (though just the concept of the Zoom is stupid, almost every camera centered smartphone is unpractical), and I know they used 2 different chipset for the main GS4 because they couldn't produce enough E5O's, but the rest are just unnecessary.
47. Sniggly (Posts: 6197; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
*shrugs* If there's something for everyone, why do I care? It's not like you're expected to buy every single variant.
Furthermore, I wasn't just referring to Samsung. There are at least 4 other manufacturers selling worthwhile Android devices, and most of them bring something unique to the table.
And honestly, it wouldn't matter how flooded the market is with different handsets if there wasn't demand for them. However, the fact that Android devices continue to sell well is because there is demand for those different devices.
So again, I reiterate: why is choice a bad thing?
56. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)
Choice isn't a bad thing. But samsung isn't offering good choices. When Sony can put everything in one phone, why can't samsung?
50. willard12 (Posts: 375; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
What is the problem? How is it that choice is a bad thing? Either way, Samsung's model is now being adopted by apple. The ipad used to be the "perfect size" until they made the ipad mini. Now here comes the 5s and the 5c in every color of the rainbow with rumors of a phablet. People always mention all the various android or samsung models but never mention why it is a problem.
57. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)
Apple isn't adopting anything samsung, its samsung who copies from EVERYONE. Especially Apple. Hell they even copied Apple's naming schemes! ( iPhone 3G'S'= Galaxy 'S', The new iPad 2013= Galaxy Note 10.1 2014)
62. kassi (Posts: 29; Member since: 25 May 2013)
ah i understand, the letter s was exclusive for apple only.
71. willard12 (Posts: 375; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
Thanks, you have now just proved your irrelevance. So, samsung copied the " year" because it was an apple invention. Even though ever samsung flagship is called "s" and only half of apple's samsung copies that. They really have you brainwashed.
74. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)
Samsung copies. Deal with it. Buy copied products in all their 100 variations for all i care.
7. hellonerds (Posts: 89; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
looks like that android icon is doing some penetration on that apple
8. Finalflash (Posts: 431; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
This is largely expected, its the same effect as windows phone being the top platform in Sweden because of Nokia. Same with Samsung in Korea and blackberry in Canada (or what was). Apple is still largely an American company having almost 15 or less outside the US. Plus now they have the presidential veto on their side lol, can't hurt.
38. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 438; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
Nokia is/was a Finnish company, and your correlations are tenuous, at best.