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*UPDATED* New Video of "Minute with Mike" on the Storm.
*UPDATE 2* Verizon's Storm site now active.
1. VZWREP (unregistered)
I agree with #46. But I feel like I have to point out prominent things that I saw in the iphone/storm comparison. The said that the iphone has no Stereo bluetooth and no picture messaging. Doesn't everyone know that? almost all phones have picture messaging, removal memory and removal battery (rumors are that iphone is going to get turn-by-turn directions soon). I think that Verizon should focus on stating the revolutionary/great features that the Storm offers and no one else does. A lot of phones offer what the iphone doesn't. If we wanted removal battery, MMS, etc; we could have just gotten the Dare. So far the blackberry thunder looks like any old blackberry phone with a touch screen. My guess is that it is identical to the bold, but with the touch screen, which isn't a bad thing at all since it looks like the bold is going to be a pretty nice phone.
Seriously, what is so great about the phone other than having a touch screen and being made from blackberry? From the video it looks like the Dare can do exactly the same thing as the Storm can do. I don't see any unique features other than that smart click thing which might be helpful when texting, but isn't all that revolutionary from what I have read and seen.
Here are some difference between the Storm and the Dare. The Storm can hold much more Calendar, Tasks, etc than the Dare. The screen (not resolution) is bigger. It is Java based. The media player can most likely play mp4, .h264, etc. The touchscreen had an innovative click technology to make it feel more like a phycial keyboard when you type (different that haptic feedback). It is global. it's a Blackberry so there is additional security over BIS, BES, or BDR. You can use Blackberry messenger, so you can IM any Blackberry user regardless if carrier (as long as you know their PIN. It's gonna come with an 8gb micro card (pretty neat perk). Anything else I missed, please forgive me.
P.S. Please pardon my grammar, after reading the post I notice many errors LOL.
61. iamshawn (unregistered)
"other than having a touch screen and being made from blackberry" First, that is HUGE. Many people are Blackberry fans but want something with a touchscreen. Second, I understand the Storm will have HVGA display, which is twice the resolution of the Dare. Also, it looks like you can see four lines of text while typing in landscape mode - on the Dare, you can see ONE and that is really annoying to me.
I have a Dare...and I like it. However, it only takes one statement to describe the difference and I don't know when many of you will begin to understand the difference.... ONE IS A SMARTPHONE AND THE OTHER ISN'T That is all that needs to be said.
Let me advise you on the difference between a PDA, Smartphone, and Blackberry. A PDA is mainly used for storing data (i.e. Calendar info, appointments, etc.), hence the name Personal Data Assistat. A Smartphone is pretty much a phone with PDA qualities, but is a phone first. A Blackberry is mainly used for email. Granted that these devices can do the same functions, what separates them is classifying their PRIMARY function. So yeah, the Storm is not a Smartphone nor a PDA, it is merely classified as a Blackberry with a touchscreen that seconds as a multimedia beast lol.
2. Sill (unregistered)
The ease of the scrolling during webpages, looked to be smooth and responsive, this device will definitely be great, too bad employees will have to wait at least half a year to get one on there personal accounts lool
5. VZWREP (unregistered)
our data master said that all the reps will be getting a "refresh" on their concession line every quater and the two reps with the highest sdp will get the storm. my sdp is always the highest in the store because of my vcast and aircard sales. so im excited for this phone.
sdp? its D A P C turd, and giving away a month of V Cast for free is not a skill.
24. Anomalies (Posts: 61; Member since: 08 Jun 2008)
I have a VZW EMP accoutn and my mom has a consumer account. Guess who I talked into letting me use their NE2 bahaha
25. VZWREP (unregistered)
acually SDP and DAPC kind of go hand in hand...and the fact that i sell vcast with very very little chargback is a skill because i sell the value. dont be mad because your store is probably last in your district.
32. VZWEmp (unregistered)
Where did you hear this from? Do you realize the amount of Storms that they will be giving to each Rep with the highest Dapc? You must be thinking of them being advanced certified. Either way if its true then im getting one myself. LOL.
35. VZWREP (unregistered)
im just repeating what that data master of our region told me directly during a training class
I'm a sales rep for VZW and you all are retarded. Talking about selling vcast. That's a joke. Try selling real data.
Your data rep is probably hyping you up to sell more. I bet you won't get anything. why would they waste a phone on you for free when a customer would pay most likely $400 for one. The math doesn't make sense. But keep believing everything mommy tells you. Remember to put your tooth under the pillow and write a list to santa, ok?
50. VZWREP (unregistered)
whether you think vcast is a joke or not it still affects your sales dollar roll up and you dapc/sdp. i sell everything and my commission check reflects that...getting gross gains is just icing on the cake...multiplier anyone?
my REGION ( since I am a senior DM ) runs #2 in th nation....we average 29.95 monthly. you know nothing about skill little one, and giving away a free feature involves no skill. sell more air cards than you do phones in a month and I will credit skill behind that.
My favorite thing is having people come back a month or so after getting a new phone and wonder why they have an extra $15 charge on it. Then I have to explain to them that some of the sales associates are sales hungry and don't even tell a customer when they add a feature on their account just to get their numbers up.
29.95? lol that nothing... i work for a premium retailer for verizon... ONE store in my region pulls in about 35+...
no, actually, as 77 pointed out, you are a total douchebag if you are relying on vcast for D A P C(dee dee dee), the only way you arent getting chargebacks is A: They have a voyager/dare/glyde and B: You add it and just dont tell them(sounds bout right)
i meant to say "or" but you get my point
ha....indirects are funny. and no you are not getting a free blackberry.
102. VZWREP (unregistered)
i really dont care what you so called DM's or premiumn retailers think. i got hired to sell and show the value in our products. so thats what im going to do. and for you (a supposed DM) to sit here and not see the value in selling a product that we offer leads me to believe that your district is far from number two or that youre even a DM. youre most likely an ASO
you know how stupid you people are? talking about who's dapc's higher and what not. get a life. just be happy blackberry is giving verizon the first whack at this awesome phone!
...you guys are all morons. DAPC this, SDP that...the internet is where retarded people lie and moronic people who I can't believe actually got hired by Big Red. Arguing over DAPC on phonearena.com only makes you guys losers and as a customer, makes me not want to go near vzw. Idiots...
I KNOW RIGHT! Its like, how can people talk about PHONES on a PHONE WEBSITE. You are the idiot sir. And know im not the dm that was on here earlier. Whos the bigger idiot? The idiot who posts on here or the idiot that responds about how stupid it its to respond?
i'm debating whether i should wait for this or get the dare...what do you guys think?
I had the dare for about 2 months and I liked a lot about it. However, the touch isn't nearly as smooth as I would like it to be. In fact, for LGs second attempt since the launch of the iphone, its pathetic. I would hold out for blackberry especially if you need emails and the like.
6. Black93300ZX (unregistered)
Nothing is close to the capacitive touch of the iPhone, nothing requires less pressure and by nothing i mean, nothing. I had an AT&T Fuze for a while, great phone, really loved it. but it felt more like a push and drag on that screen than the "flick". I really don't like the click button screen on this, you have to push down hard every time you want to select something... Good thing I have no plans for Verizon in my future. :)
well you have never used the storm, so you wouldnt know.
you are basing your information on a video of an prototype of a phone. great thinking goober.
since I am using the Storm right now, I would have to say WRONG and FAIL for all I Phone users, this device is brighter , more responsive and offers more OUT THE BOX than a Jail Broken Y Phone.
16. gibby (unregistered)
sure you are!!!
We'll see how true your words are when the phone comes out #13. the device the guy used in a video might have been a prototype, but that's basically how the touch screen is going to be. They can't possibly redesign the entire touch screen in less than a month. Its just like the Instinct. A reviewer said that the touchscreen was very unresponsive. A commentor said that it was because the reviewer was using a test model. Well the updated/final instinct shipped a week later and although the touch screen was improved, it was a major improvement from the test model. But I'm excited to see how well the Blackberry Storm performs when it is released. We've already gone through the Voyager, the Instinct, the Dare, and the Diamond. Hopefully this phone will beat the iphone. I seriously doubt that it beat the iphone based on all the touch screens that came out in the past, but if they do beat the iphone, then all I will have to say is good job to Blackberry.
I have the dare and its a great phone with tons of features...but its a phone not a smartphone. It's all about what you need. You can get email on the dare...i guess the only thing it can't do it open pdf's, excel etc. and no push email (as far as I know but there may be an app for this)
What size is the screen?
I'm curious to see this "click" touch in action. I think it could be a nice feature but wonder how it will be when you are typing on the virtual keyboard. I also wonder if this is a feaeture that can be turned off if the user does not like it or at least adjust some kind of sensitivity setting. There will be a slight learning curve like there is with every touch screen phone so after 24-48 hours of use most people will pick up on it pretty quick.
My guess is that the feature will be active only on the screens that need it
Unbelievable. I work at VZW and I can tell you that this video is exclusive to VZW employees only. The monitor in this video is that of a POS station in a store / kiosk. I can't believe that this employee would capture this and post it to YouTube at the possible risk of losing their job. How moronic.
u see the sticker on the video? That sticker just cost someone there job.
17. June (unregistered)
I'm not so sure the person would loose their job. I mean, VZW is benefiting from the 'buzz' this type of leaked information provides. While I doubt they officially are going viral in their advertising, they are certainly aren't going to get upset at something stirring interest in their products.
18. Sill (unregistered)
VZW is VERY strict when it comes to releasing confidential info, im sure the PDF files were actually sent from a higher up, but the "bad video" from this employees phone, more than likely cost them there job if another employee was watching them and went to report them to there manager, a minute of fame is the true payout!?
I'm pretty sure Mike knew this would be on the web within 24 hrs. He even mentions the "bloggers". Sure it's confidential but it isn't anything VZW didn't want released or know. YES WE ARE GETTING THE STORM, YES I CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
VZW makes it very clear that if you leak info, your job is on the line. If this guy is found, this guy is thrown. Then again, we do like the perty pics dont we.
21. QUEEN (unregistered)
WOW WHAT THE HELL IS THE BIG DEAL ABOUT THAT EMPLOYEE RELEASING A VIDEO OF THE PHONE THIS DUDE IS ACTING LIKE ITS APART OF THE CIA OR SOMETHING I HOPE THE GUY DOESNT LOSE HIS JOB AND LAUGHS IN YOUR FACE YOU DEF ARE TOO HYPE OVER THE PHONE AND WE ALL KNEW IT WAS COMING OUT AND I ACTUALLY SEEN IT BEFORE HAND ON GOOGLE SO GET OVER IT LOSER ITS NOT THE ONLY BLACKBERRY TOUCH THAT IS COMING OUT!!!!
22. primewax (unregistered)
Intelligent response. I feel compelled to believe you due to your well thought out and coherent statement.
30. QUEEN (unregistered)
Yes...the lack of punctuation really makes it a "clear" thought.
very intelligent responce.. ha! obviously you dont work for verizon. any VZW emp will tell you how big they are on corperate security of their internal documents. Sometimes things are leaked on purpose to create a buzz, like the storm, dare, and voyager. sometimes they are leaked by employees. when that happends, and they are caught, they get canned asap. verizon dont play when it comes to security and privacy.
20. xmguy (unregistered)
27. flea (unregistered)
you can still watch the video on crackberry. and i wanna see the demensions of this phone. especially how thick it is. i dont like clunker phone. but thats just me.
I can't believe that all those ignorant puppets are crying about someone losing their job. Working for big red sucks, so the person probably doesn't care because maybe they are just working at big red while they are finishing a degree or is a secondary income for their household because retail positions are a joke, management is a joke, and most of the retail employees are too ignorant to realize how bad they are getting screwed. So shut up and post about the phone not someone losing a crappy job
I CANT BELIEVE YOU ARE TELLING PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT THE PHONE AND NOT THE PERSON LOSING THEIR JOB BUT IN YOUR COMMENT YOU TALKED ABOUT THE DAM GUY, WHAT A JERK LOL!!! YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE AND BY THE WAY I AM A MANAGER OF RETAIL AND I LOVE MY JOB AND CAN I TELL YOU HOW MUCH I LOVE MY JOB!!!!! THE CASE WAS ORIGINALLY ABOUT THE PHONE AND THE VIDEO OF IT AND SOME JERK OFF LOSER WAS MAD BECAUSE HE WASNT THE ONLY ONE THAT WORK WITH VERIZON THAT KNEW ABOUT THE PHONE SO BEFORE YOU CALL ANYONE A PUPPET LOOK AT THE STRINGS ATTACHED TO YOU
wow, all caps you're yelling that's not very nice. I guess you couldn't wait to post because you should have checked for spelling and missing words. I will let you go I don't want to take you away from selling phones and giving credits.
who the heck do you think you are number 31? Selling phones and giving credits.... in such a condescending textual connoctation..... What the f*** are you trying to say? Reps that work customer service on a phone don't have a "real" job? I'd love to see half the people that believe this try to sit in a care reps shoes for about a year, I'm glad I'm out of it but the job is emotionally and mentally draining, and not as easy as most people try to portray it. Try not giving away credits to greedy customers that think they deserve something so you can keep your stats up and not get in trouble, keep a certain amount of calls per day without any breaks in between, looking up information you don't know and being able to present it without placing on hold. Everything a rep does is monitored, AND they have to do all of that, all the time, without taking away from the call so they can pass the coachings when a random call is pulled. Get the #*#)@ off your high horse and don't come back with a BS response like "i've done it" because if you have you would know it's the truth. I am the calmest person and least stressed person you can ever meet in your life, but that job even got to me before my promotions.
THANK YOU #118 I AGREE TO THE FULLEST WITH ALL CAPS LOL!!
That's right, coming from some loser in his parent's basement that thinks working in the cell phone business is for morons. Like you ever worked for Big Red, you sound like this guy I know who got turned down by Big Red and worked for T-Mobile...oh, and he lived in HIS parent's basement, so don't feel bad, there's other losers you can be friends with out there in the world. Do the world a favor and never post again. Thanks.