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Samsung's 2010 document says Galaxy S would be better if it were more like the Apple iPhone

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Samsung's 2010 document says Galaxy S would be better if it were more like the Apple iPhone
Apple had an entire 2010 document from Samsung placed into evidence during today's courtroom action in the Apple v. Samsung patent trial. The document was translated from its original Korean and has a side-by-side comparison between the Apple iPhone and the Samsung Galaxy S. Every feature of the two handsets is compared, such as the browser, connectivity, messaging, multimedia and basic function. The document was written by the Korean tech firm's product engineering team and evaluates the features available for both models. For each feature, the engineers made recommendations that Samsung should abide by in order to compete with Apple. In  nearly every situation the recommendation was to make the Samsung Galaxy S work more like the Apple iPhone.

Comparing the UI

Comparing the UI

For example, in discussing messaging on both phones, Samsung's engineers said that "receiving events is difficult to recognize and access" on the Samsung Galaxy S. For the Apple iPhone, the engineers wrote the opposite saying that "received messages are easily recognized and accessed." The Samsung engineers also lauded the iPhone's effective and efficient use of space while criticizing the poor use of space for a large LCD on the Samsung Galaxy S. The bottom line is that the report says that S1 (the Samsung Galaxy S) would be better if it acted like an Apple iPhone and had a similar UX. This fits right in with Apple's charge that Samsung "slavishly" copied the design and feel of the Apple iPhone and Apple iPad.

Tuesday saw more expert witnesses called to the stand by Apple to prove that the similarity in design between the Samsung Galaxy S and the Apple iPhone were more than just coincidence and added up to infringement on the part of Samsung.

source: AllThingsD

Comparing the Samsung Galaxy S with the Apple iPhone

Comparing the Samsung Galaxy S with the Apple iPhone



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posted on 07 Aug 2012, 23:44 28

1. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Oops more proof Samsung copied. They're looking really bad from this trial. We have Samsung CEO admitting they should be more like Apple, side by side pics, documents, expert witnesses. Buried by evidence.

Apple has this in the bag.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 23:48 13

2. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)


'thats what you think grasshoper" and it is indeed what "YOU' think...LOL

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 00:12 5

21. ChiX017 (Posts: 308; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


lool..funny statement!

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:27 7

52. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)


hmm... i am really going to be truthful about this, but Samsung really copied Apple....

but that doesn't mean it should be banned. Samsung's really trying to get off that trail with the Nature UX and all that.

just pay the royalties and get over with it --- and change Samsung's style. really. they should also lessen the use of plastic. Samsung has a lot of flaws to sorten out.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:48 4

61. dok2005 (Posts: 55; Member since: 18 Apr 2012)


no they didnt copy apple and if they did copy apple they need tp pay the same people apple pay and their name is nokia. real simple

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 23:53 16

4. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


samsung is such a copy cat!!!!

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 00:11 16

17. Ohrules (Posts: 327; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)


for once, i think taco's right :/

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:13 9

47. wendygarett (unregistered)


But his madness is kinda annoying... IDK..

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 11:03 4

104. JunitoNH (Posts: 1896; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)


for once had to give a thumbs up, lol.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 00:24 9

28. Commentator (Posts: 3709; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


So Samsung's shot themselves in the foot during this trial what, 12, 13 times now? It'll be amazing if they come out of this thing walking...

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 00:40 12

36. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


i have to say this, i have to say this,

samsung took some hints on how to beautify or should i say improve their products on what the public is asking them. They took some hints from apple because it successfully got the public's heart with its products.

"Copy" is a strong word to use. Didn't apple took some hints with its design from other existing phones back then? Yes it did. Because that's how the market works. Just create something that people are asking for. "Copy" is a strong word to use. Didn't apple took some hints with its design from other existing phones back then? Yes it did. Because that's how the market works. Just create something that people are asking for. Back then, iPhone doesn't have notification tray and multitasking, but what happened?

My point here is that, sometimes you have to base your products on what consumers like. Samsung didn't copy, they took some hints. At least, IMO.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 00:53 10

39. Commentator (Posts: 3709; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


I would agree with you all the way if this document had never been brought to light. If Samsung had taken a few obvious cues from Apple on larger issues like icon design and animations, it wouldn't look too bad because, again, those changes would be obvious.

However, Samsung compiled a list of hundreds of even the most minute issues. "120" in Section I, for instance, refers to the sound that their respective Alarm applications make when setting the time. It's tiny things like these that, in my opinion, casts doubt on Samsung's innocence.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:04 16

44. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


This is what I've been trying to say. Any one of these things by themselves wouldn't be copying, but when you put it all together it is.

We have this document, copied icons, copied accessories, copied design of the phone, comes in black and white like iPhone, copied Apple stores, and the latest is S-Voice.

You take all these things and IT IS blatant copying. The type Apple can't ignore.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:09 5

46. Commentator (Posts: 3709; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


I'm surprised Apple's been so quiet as far as S-Voice is concerned. Of all the things Samsung's been accused of copying, the most obvious is their take on Siri. The interface is overwhelmingly similar, and it doesn't even have to be (I'm not a fan of the Siri interface anyways).

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:24 12

49. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Yes there was no reason at all to copy the interface and I agree there's nothing particularly amazing about Siri's interface so Samsung is copying just to copy. It's also somewhat shocking that Samsung would so blatantly continue to copy considering the trial they're facing.

Also I'm starting to see a turn of the tide as I've gotten more thumbs up here then I have in a long time. I'm also seeing posters really starting to show dissappointment and change their opinion on Samsung.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:42 8

56. wendygarett (unregistered)


Giving you the thumb up doesnt mean we support your fanboyism... We also hope Samsung to redesign his ui because android nowadays is not android used to be... And if Samsung still don't change and remain like a gingerbread phone... I salute him... And Apple should invest more on ios instead of suing people around like a crying baby...

Here's a last thumb up for you... Argh...

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 04:32 1

84. notor (unregistered)


When someone will copy your work, then I will ask you the same question that why are you cribbing?

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:53 6

62. Commentator (Posts: 3709; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


I was seriously considering thumbing you down, to punish you for your hubris! ...but I'm just not that cold-hearted... a thumbs-up for you sir, but be warned: the art of thumb-reading is not to be taken lightly. Many a vainglorious, foolish man has been felled by his own ego, taken ultimately by the down-votes cast by those he once called his bosom-friends. Therefore take heed, none but the Thumb-Gods can foresee what the thumb-winds of fortune will bring you, and thus 'tis best to never mind the issue in the first place...

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 09:14 1

99. pkiran1996 (Posts: 166; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)


This was over 2 years ago. If you look at all the Galaxy devices with TouchWiz 4.0 and above, they look nothing like iOS. The Galaxy S2's success made them realise they don't need to copy Apple anymore. Surely even you Taco can agree that TouchWiz 4.0 and after are nothing like iOS

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 11:07

105. JunitoNH (Posts: 1896; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)


Listen, the Japanese and Koreans have been (doing) copying Americans cars for years; to the point were they master the craft now. Is no different, Asians see something, they copy, and then perfect it.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 07:58 1

94. jp26sx (Posts: 14; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


I think S-voice was build from technology partnerships that existed before siri so apple can't go after them for that.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 08:08 1

97. dok2005 (Posts: 55; Member since: 18 Apr 2012)


android phones had voice capabilities before iphone. To be more closer to your point and case. S-Voice was made with the partnership with Vlingo. Which you can see on ever samsung phone how it evolved.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 03:21 2

76. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


i thumb you up but hints are different from what samsung is doing... the galaxy series really looks a lot an iDevice!!! they made some modification but it still look an iPhone/iPod!

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 00:58 4

43. Ubi2447 (Posts: 131; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)


As much as I hate to agree, it is looking like Apple has a lot going for it in this triel. It certainly didn't help that the judge ruled that Samsung wasn't able to use evidence that would help them.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:20

48. Packer29 (Posts: 56; Member since: 10 Sep 2011)


Why don't you apply to work for Apple sense your obviously so passionate about Apple instead of wasting time being repetitive!

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:43 1

57. dok2005 (Posts: 55; Member since: 18 Apr 2012)


actually if you saying that samsung copied then u really not understanding. yes that what apple want you to believe but lets take this chance to really understand. Being thats all this is true the than the original galaxy s and other verison for the different carriers shouldn't be under fire because it didnt copy the feel or working of the ios. the only thing thats noted here is that galaxy s ui looks like apple. Trust me when i say if that the case nothing wrong because smartphones lcons looked like that for a very long time. then they do just like everybody else does in this business and that is trying to make something better than what the people called the best. even apple does this when they finally added a voice function real picture messaging semi tasking and the drop down notification bar. all samsung did here was take notes on what they need to improve and then impro

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:46 1

59. dok2005 (Posts: 55; Member since: 18 Apr 2012)


improved on them. nothing more nothing less. i know everybody in this world can look at these two devices and tell the differences on look alone if you cant you no smarter than my 3 year old child who knows the difference.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:54 2

63. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


Samsung is just trying to say that how good the iPhone is compared with the galaxy s
But that does not mean Samsung never copied the iPhone

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:56 1

65. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)


taco i would thumbs you up for dedication to the wrong side.....but it is once again .........the wrong side.................and just cuase things appear to be what you think they are does not mean its the "truth" it may have some facts in the there but until the entire story unfolds it remains nothing at all.......

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 02:02 4

69. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


At this point with all this overwhelming evidence you have to have some serious blinders on to not see what samsung is doing.

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