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Maricopa County Attorney's Office will no longer give the Apple iPhone to employees

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Maricopa County Attorney's Office will no longer give the Apple iPhone to employees
Maricopa County in Arizona is the first official government agency to punish Apple for not unlocking the Apple iPhone 5c belonging to deceased terrorist Syed Farook. The Maricopa County Attorney's office sent out a press release on Wednesday stating that it would no longer provide the iPhone as an option to existing employees seeking a replacement phone. Additionally, employees with an upgrade will also be prohibited from using it to grab an iPhone.

The backlash from Apple's decision not to comply with a court order demanding that it unlock Farook's handset seems to ignore an important fact; by changing the Apple ID on the device, the government made it impossible for Apple to back up content to iCloud via Wi-Fi, which would have allowed the Tech Titan to give the government what it wants without requiring Apple to build a new version of iOS. Apple is afraid that if it builds a unique version of its mobile OS for the feds, it will get into the wrong hands. This would endanger the security of every iPhone owner in the world.

Of the 544 smartphones that are handed out to employees of the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office, 366 are Apple iPhone units. Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery said, "If Apple wants to be the official smartphone of terrorists and criminals, there will be a consequence."

"Apple’s refusal to cooperate with a legitimate law enforcement investigation to unlock a phone used by terrorists puts Apple on the side of terrorists instead of on the side of public safety. Positioning their refusal to cooperate as having anything to do with privacy interests is a corporate PR stunt and ignores the 4th Amendment protections afforded by our Constitution. I don’t expect my action to affect Apple’s stock price, but I cannot in good conscience support doing business with an organization that chooses to thwart an active investigation into a terrorist attack that claimed the lives of fourteen fellow citizens. If Apple wants to be the official smartphone of terrorists and criminals, there will be a consequence."-Bill Montgomery, attorney, Maricopa County

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source: MaricopaCountyAttorney'sOffice via CNNMoney

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posted on 24 Feb 2016, 23:35 11

1. Derekjeter (Posts: 805; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Seriously? Like if a couple hundred unsold iPhones will hurt Apple. The US government is full of spit!

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 00:00 4

5. techperson211 (Posts: 1163; Member since: 27 Feb 2014)


It's not about that. It's about apple not following the court order. Still this case is not that simple. Hopefully the victim gets justice.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 00:38 16

14. greyarea (Posts: 166; Member since: 14 Aug 2015)


The victims will not get justice. When someone kills a bunch of other people for no sensible reason and ends up dead in the process there is often no further justice to be had. Closure is up to the the people close to the victims. Just like it's up to people close to any victims of any senseless violence. Lets not play them into the complexities of cryptography and the governments wanting keys.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 01:10 2

17. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


Very well said @greyarea

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 04:20 1

31. greyarea (Posts: 166; Member since: 14 Aug 2015)


Much appreciated. As much as I'd like to play cool and pretend the thoughts all write themselves, there's often an internal struggle of scattered thinking and forgotten words that take some decent effort to translate. Glad it came out legible, wish it was less sad.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 04:02 3

30. RoboticEngi (Posts: 547; Member since: 03 Dec 2014)


Fine lets give terrorists and all criminals a nice platform to hide all their doings on. And when it hits hard near you, then the rest of us can lift our shoulders and say: Well he got his privacy...................

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 04:50 3

32. greyarea (Posts: 166; Member since: 14 Aug 2015)


I think you know the chances of "it hitting near me" is going to leave your schadenfreude in limbo for a while. YOU might be terrified about your incredibly low chance of end up on the bad side of a terrorist but my fears are more rational. Not completely rational, a spider probably isn't going to kill me. Just more rational than 'I'm going to be in a shoot-out today' scared

I don't think being blinded by emotion of losing a loved one should be necessary in order to see your point. But you're one of those dramatic people who pegs others as 'with us or against us'. Except "us" in this case people who don't understand complex technology but don't let it stop them from repeating the same emotionally charged simplified crap.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 06:00

34. RoboticEngi (Posts: 547; Member since: 03 Dec 2014)


I very well know the chances are small. But some are hit and I want to make sure we do everything we can to prevent it. Unlike you I care about people, even though I don't know them.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 10:54

46. natypes (Posts: 1038; Member since: 02 Feb 2015)


Exactly. Silly example, but if everyone else is dead how valuable is your privacy then?

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 06:36

35. Good-Is-Better (Posts: 69; Member since: 12 Nov 2015)


Well, but this is just the beginning. If I have an employee, I cannot give him or her an iPhone. He can encrypt the phone and sell my business behind my back. Too dangerous.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 10:11 3

43. greyarea (Posts: 166; Member since: 14 Aug 2015)


I'm not sure you need an encrypted phone to steal business. In either sense of the word. Clients, plans, recipes, papers, etc. I'm not sure what you mean. Isn't all the same possible with a personal phone?

@robotic
There's always more that you can do, often even then it will not be enough. Why do I have the feeling your universal caring of other people is more limited to victims of tragic events. Because I bet there are loads of people who could use some care for problems that might not hit as close to home to you. I wonder if you spend as much time thinking about them. Unlike you I don't assume to know.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 08:23

40. j2001m (Posts: 2755; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


As I keep saying just like if you or me or the fbi make a iOS ver, it will not work as Apple auths all software updates and can also turn them off as and when needed, so the software can leak out for years and cannot be installed, this is a joke of Apple own making

Go and try and install io8.0.0 on a phone using io9.0.3 and get back to me

Or even try and install 9.0.0. On a later iPhone ios9 ver, not going to work

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 09:22 1

41. joeytaylor (Posts: 383; Member since: 28 Feb 2015)


The U.S. Government cannot force someone to make something that doesn't exist

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 10:01 1

42. downphoenix (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


As said in the document, if the government hadn't changed the Apple ID, they could have backed up the data to the cloud and accessed it that way. This is just to screw us people over.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 00:18 1

9. NoToFanboys (Posts: 1011; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Full of spit? That's nothing compared to what will happen when Trump wins

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 01:10

18. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


What? You mean world war 3? I think that could be kind of fun actually :)

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 03:03

26. Aploine (Posts: 425; Member since: 24 Oct 2013)


WW3 is already happening. Soon in a country near you

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 10:19

44. elitewolverine (Posts: 4993; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Trumps personal finance depends a lot on tourism...that would only hurt him.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 08:05 5

37. lyndon420 (Posts: 3709; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


"If Apple wants to be the official smartphone of terrorists and criminals, there will be a consequence."

But...the government are criminals and terrorists,...oh the irony.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 10:54 2

47. natypes (Posts: 1038; Member since: 02 Feb 2015)


Take your meds and shut up.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 11:06 3

50. lyndon420 (Posts: 3709; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Take meds? And feed the government further? I'll pass thanks :)

How about I NOT shut up and express the opinions that I have a right to instead. You ok with that muffin?

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 13:36 1

57. MrElectrifyer (Posts: 1876; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)


You really should be writing that to yourself. Sounding like one of the brainwashed numbskulls mentioned in the following video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8__64mFVes

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 19:30

59. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


Soon every sector will be ditching iPads and iPhones to be replaced. Shares should drop 20%. Good. Lmfao.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 19:37

62. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


Soon the government will banned all iPhones. Lmfao.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 23:43 21

2. ibend (Posts: 3155; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


good for them.. now their employee can get better phone, nice move

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 01:22

20. Bernoulli (Posts: 3704; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


Lol that was pretty good.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 10:32

45. aleant36 (Posts: 62; Member since: 03 Feb 2015)


*switches to windows* hahaha

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 19:38

63. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


Replace the bad rotten terrorist fruit. And use Android and BB.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 23:58 1

3. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 1931; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


That's pretty stupid of them but whatever Apple doesn't care about one Attorney's Office lol.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 00:01 1

6. Arte9000v2 (banned) (Posts: 19; Member since: 24 Feb 2016)


Because apple drinks and lives with money from iterrorist scumbags like rizwan farook , aLQAEDA and ISIS and yourself. meanwhile rizwan was laid to rest in murica!!!!!LOL

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 00:30 3

10. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 1931; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Terrorist are bad, but security should be a tech companies to priority and with Apple it obviously is. If the feds weren't so stupid they would have all the info from the iPhone 5c already, it's not anyone's fault that terrorist exist but it is the feds fault that Apple can't give them what they want, they shouldn't have tried getting into the iPhone before asking Apple for help. They knew they couldn't get into the iPhone so why did they even bother.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 11:34

52. blazee (Posts: 407; Member since: 02 Jan 2012)


More will follow

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 00:00 13

4. someone12 (Posts: 177; Member since: 28 Aug 2015)


Ignorance is a disease in the USA

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 00:30 4

11. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 1931; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Ignorance is globe disease bro.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 00:38 1

13. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 1931; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Is a* Damn how could I forget the a lol.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 04:54 6

33. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2630; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Not to mention using globe instead of global ;)

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 11:28 1

51. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 1931; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


s**t, I didn't even notice. That's what happens when you type half asleep LOL.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 12:01 2

53. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2630; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


lol I know the feeling and I know what you meant anyway ;)

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 19:39

64. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


Apple is a disease all over the world.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 00:11 5

7. Unordinary (Posts: 997; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)


"Their encryption is too good so we can't go thru this drama again."

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 00:13 1

8. sissy246 (Posts: 533; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


Good for them, now I hope more will fallow.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 00:31 1

12. cncrim (Posts: 790; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


LOL, I don't see how this will hurt Apple at all with that much cash she has.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 00:45 1

15. Navi_m (Posts: 789; Member since: 09 Jan 2016)


They will sure go for HP Elite x3 . After all thats a enterprise type phone!! About apple , now they will surely release a official note to!!

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 01:13 5

19. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


I say create the backdoor, then use that very same backdoor against them, to fcuk over government officials, leak all their scandals, affairs and porn habits and s**t,and see how much the fcuker's enjoy their liberties.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 07:55 2

36. gersont1000 (Posts: 274; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


That would be the only good thing.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 08:09 2

38. lyndon420 (Posts: 3709; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


That would be a great idea, but then the entire government would ban iphones. Hmmmm...

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 19:34

61. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


That would be the end of Apple. Hope it rip soon.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 14:44 1

58. MrElectrifyer (Posts: 1876; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)


Lol, and the same idiots that were encouraging them to release the code will then start yelling and suing them, saying they should have made it more secure. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

Looking at the bigger picture though, it'll be putting an end to apple through their own business practice. Live by hypocrisy (bit.ly/1si5DVX), die by hypocrisy.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 01:24

21. Bernoulli (Posts: 3704; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


I can see a small blackberry comeback if American officials even know what security is and are concerned with it.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 08:12 2

39. lyndon420 (Posts: 3709; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Yeah right. Blackberry would end up giving the government their own servers to snoop or risk being banned in the USA if they didn't...just like they did for the Pakistani government a few years ago.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 11:04

48. natypes (Posts: 1038; Member since: 02 Feb 2015)


Calm down Alex Jones lol. You people are funny.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 13:18

54. lyndon420 (Posts: 3709; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


He's a religious douche. Is bringing up his name/show the best you can do?

posted on 27 Feb 2016, 05:33

65. meanestgenius (Posts: 9209; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Perhaps you should do some research before you comment and get called out for your lack of knowledge:

"We are grateful to the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority and the Pakistani government for accepting BlackBerry’s position that we cannot provide the content of our customers’ BES traffic, nor will we provide access to our BES servers."

That was taken from here:

http://blogs.blackberry.com/2015/12/continuing-our-operations-in-pakistan/

Not only were you COMPLETELY ERONG about BlackBerry "giving the government their own servers to snoop...", but you were even wrong about the TIME FRAME in which it happened. This took place last year, not "a few years ago."

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 01:47

23. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2079; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


No great loss. This is the same county that continues to allow the lawless racist Joe Arpaio to serve as its sheriff.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 02:00

24. kevin91202 (Posts: 514; Member since: 08 Jun 2014)


Terrorist Syed Farook? Oh please...

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 02:42

25. tacarat (Posts: 716; Member since: 22 Apr 2013)


Apple makes new software for US
Apple has to give that software to every country
Insecure servers hacked or somebody is bribed
Hackers, terrorists, and criminals are secure again

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 03:06

27. tedkord (Posts: 9863; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


No, they don't. Apple already has the means, they simply don't want the public to know they have it. If an iPhone 7 were to get "left in a bar" like happened years ago, and was recovered locked and encrypted, it'd be open within a day and all data copied and studied to see what happened.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 03:48 2

28. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


LMAO :'D Conspiracy 101 looool

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 13:22 1

55. tacarat (Posts: 716; Member since: 22 Apr 2013)


Heya Ted, always a pleasure :D
Of course Apple has the means to do this. That doesn't mean they've prepared the tools yet. It doesn't mean that the tools are for anything but prototype models. Depending on how the encryption is done, it may be problematic to overwrite the current software and leave the desired data intact.

Side rant: I'm irritated at android microSD card encryption for not allowing this. If I get a replacement phone, same model and everything, the chip won't work in the new device. I haven't found a way to even import the chip data and decrypt it even if I have my passphrase. There's not even a way to export those keys from the phone for my own use.

posted on 25 Feb 2016, 04:01 1

29. tarek1980 (Posts: 277; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)


Well then for me & my family Apple will be the only option

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