Huawei speaks out: "we have decided to exit the US market”
The House Intelligence Committee in particular has accused Huawei of spying, but the company has fiercely denied the allegations and company VP William Plummer called the committee’s investigation a “comedic sham…border[ing] on corporate defamation.” Plummer defends Huawei’s position that House Intelligence Committee chairman Rep. Mike Rogers “has made multiple claims about China-headquartered Huawei’s integrity, not once – not once – with a shred of demonstrable substance.”
The first investigations into Huawei’s alleged spying practices kicked off in 2011, and the following review concluded “that the threat to the supply chain [of telecommunications equipment] constitutes a rising national security concern of the highest priority.”
Huawei, of course, as any other big Chinese manufacturer, has a complicated relationship with its own Chinese Government and China’s People’s Liberation Army. Huawei CEO Ren himself is a member of the Chinese Communist Party. Right now, Huawei says its US handsets are “still selling well,” which might be taken as a hint that the exit will happen mostly in network equipment.
source: Foreign Policy (paywall) via GSM Arena
1. sarb009 (Posts: 294; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Spy doesn't want to be spied. So they have to go
41. Ashoaib (Posts: 2438; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
Thats a very dirty way of competition... ehen US companies are struggling to compete against cheap chinese products, they are using dirty tricks to survive... US itself is a biggest spy, who are they to call others spy?... this is just a cheap phony trick to keep chinese firms out of eating US market...
3. HASHTAG (unregistered)
It's kind of a shame considering that we (US) are the ones who are spying.
10. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Microsoft is watching you...
31. tedkord (Posts: 5309; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
And they're all reporting back to the NSA.
22. McLTE (Posts: 714; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
well HELLO.. If you were a country and strongly believed another coountry, especially one that doesn't have a great track record of good behavior, was spying, what the F would you do?
Would you say.. well heck, we spy too.. so go ahead an collect our information and secrets?
NO.. you'd applaud their departure and do what you can to ensure they don't succeed at accessing your information.
It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what you are doing.
Everyone spies on everyone else, it's true.. and when you catch someone doing the spying, you raise hell. That's how it works.
I'm not saying this company is guilty of spying for China.. I have no idea.
45. Dr.Phil (Posts: 938; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
So then, according to your comment, you wouldn't be upset if the entire world decided to no longer offer US products from companies like Microsoft, Google, and Apple because they have a track record of spying on their customers? You also wouldn't therefore be upset if those companies lost billions of dollars by no longer having their devices being offered in foreign countries?
Because I believe that these foreign governments should have a backbone and no longer offer products from US companies that are known to spy on their citizens.
4. tiara6918 (Posts: 1550; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
Too bad, they could have made it big there
6. sum182 (Posts: 229; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
None of their decent stuff never came to the US right? I've only ever seen low end Huawei stuff, but i know they make some very nice stuff.
9. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Yeah, Huawei is one of the manufacturer that's going big, can't believe they give up so quickly.
13. Finalflash (Posts: 1913; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
They're giving up because of American protectionism not their ability to compete. They are being accused of crimes with not a shred of evidence and are being restricted from selling a good amount of their products here. It is largely a plan to keep the chinese out of the lucrative US mobile hardware market because they could go full Google on the locals and kill the margins that the phone industry is so used to.
15. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
It's really not a big deal, Huawei don't need to be in the US market. Huawei still have a big chance because there are Asia, Europe markets etc.
21. JGuinan007 (Posts: 641; Member since: 19 May 2011)
Where do you get your info from? The US smartphone market is pretty much dominated by companies outside the US already. Huawei has close ties to the Chinese Gov, they have a huge record of intellectual property violations, ties to Iran, and a pattern and practice of potentially illegal behavior. The US is not the only country with these concerns Australia, the UK and other European countries also have these issues but places like the UK are too invested with Huawei tele comm systems but you can bet they will have a lot more eyes watching them.
47. andynaija (Posts: 485; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)
They really could have. My first Android smartphone was manufactured by them and I actually enjoyed it, until I lost it. But for some reason like sum182 said, it was always the low end devices coming in instead of the more upper end equipment.
5. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Sad, very sad... Many people people in the US think that Huawei is spying them and wants to steal their personal information for the Chinese Government, so they don't buy a Huawei product. Seriously, why would the Chinese Government want to steal your mom's bikini pics? What a bunch of naive peoples.
Don't give up, Huawei.
7. Commentator (Posts: 2520; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Or, you know, billions of dollars in corporate secrets...
16. darkkjedii (Posts: 12739; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
He's only 15 or 16 bro, we gotta remember that. +1
17. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
So what? I'm not ignorant and childish like you, Apple fanboyjedii.
26. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Not even close to it buddy. His point was made actually...
38. deewinc (Posts: 192; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
Learn to respect other people with regard to wisdom and not age.
33. tedkord (Posts: 5309; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
As pertains to smartphones, they're not going to get any corporate or government secrets off a phone I hold.
On the other hand, they're not going to find bikini pictures of my mom, either. WTF is going on in that family?
11. papss (unregistered)
What is that supposed to mean? Im glad that one chinese company is leaving the US. I say more should leave.
12. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
More should leave? What if Foxconn stop manufacturing iPhones for Apple, no more iPhones... At that time, the one who's leaving is Apple.
14. papss (unregistered)
So be it.. as ive stated foxcon is a waste and id prefer to have mg products made by adults and people who have a choice. Ill pay more just for this to happen.
20. sprockkets (Posts: 1367; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Sure. When you find that iphones and ipads are out of stock 75% of the time, thus making the asp go up a few hundred dollars + another hundred for making it by decent paid workers...
I doubt you'll want your $800 ipad. and $1000 iphone.
28. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5958; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Which is one of the reasons I purchased a Droid Maxx. Voting with my wallet and what-not.
19. Bilpocalypse (Posts: 301; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)
How is "no more iPhones" a bad thing?
23. McLTE (Posts: 714; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
I could really care less about Apple.. they don't make anything worthwhile here in the US. The shelter their profits so they don't pay what they should in taxes either.
Personally, I'm of the opinion that I'm ok with these Chinese companies being gone from the US market. We already build FAR too much in China, don't need them directly competing with us on the store shelves either.
It's nothing against the Chinese people at all.
27. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
It means what it means and it is people that think like you that makes America full of difficult people. So you don't want Chinese companies making a crapload of money in America but it's just enterprising if US companies make crap load of money in other countries?
Why stop there. Why don't we just build a wall between each country and not let anyone visit?
42. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
And US f**ks Samsung and Huawei without any valid reasoning. Which is worse?
Levies operate differently in each country and the taxes and levies work much better than limiting anyways.
18. saurik (Posts: 86; Member since: 13 May 2013)
Sshhhh.. Kids shouldn't be talking about someone's mom's bikini. Gawwwd..
25. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
That is just how society works in America. They have really messed up entitlement issues and fanboys like commentator, paper, and darkjedi are either too stupid or patriotic to see this.
Apple and the US government and jury are guilty of this.
That is why Sony simply just chooses to pull out and everyone else including Samsung should as well. That is the only way to fix. Unfortunately, Samsung might lose too much money if they pull out so we are stuck with these people that think Apple and the US government are right even when they are just being babies.
30. papss (unregistered)
Lol right....so no other country has these issues? If everyone should pull out of the US to "fix" us then maybe we should pull all our OS away from other countries...android,apple and windows. Typical tard comments from you
32. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Yes no other country has these issues to the extent of America. Of course you are too retarded to see this.
Pulling out those OS from other countries fixes nothing. Other countries welcome them. It is the americatards that don't welcome products from outsiders or just accuse them for copying.
Typical retarded papss
35. papss (unregistered)
Its built into the chinese culture to copy... fact.. to bad you are to retarded to see that. You should take your american bashing to iran where its appropriate or is it envey with you?
43. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Wait a second?! Are you saying that all Asian companies copy now and the US are immune?! ROFL. You are more retarded than I thought and that is saying something because I thought you were pretty retarded.
48. papss (unregistered)
Wheredid i say asian?its called comprehension you stupid fuk! Good job twisting what i said.
37. India (Posts: 2; Member since: 06 Dec 2013)
If you pull all the OS, then we indian's need to pull all our s/w engineers from america after that you may need someone to shut down all your servers
39. papss (unregistered)
Thats my point.. every country prospers off america but wants to rag on us. I truely believe its envy.
40. India (Posts: 2; Member since: 06 Dec 2013)
i really proud on your patriotism.
but facts are different......
i think its out of phonearena so no more comment from my side
44. Taters (Posts: 3606; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Wow! Just wow! Talk about living in your own bubble. Let's see some evidence to support your really stupid theory....this should be good.
46. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6743; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
EVERY MANUFACTURE/ GOV'T AGENCY U.S. EUROPEAN OR ASIAN is spying on us who cares. theres nothing we can't do anyway.