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CyanogenMod founder leaves Samsung, has mixed feelings about Galaxy S 4

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CyanogenMod founder leaves Samsung, has mixed feelings about Galaxy S 4
A couple years ago, Samsung was getting extremely chummy with the Android mod community, and was able to recruit one of the top guys in that community: Steve Kondik, the man who founded CyanogenMod. Well, the time has come for Mr. Kondik to leave Samsung, and on his way out he has some mixed feelings about the work that Samsung has been doing recently.

Steve didn't say why he left Samsung, just that he wanted to do "something new". On his way out, he had some thoughts on the Galaxy S 4. Like many of us, he was not impressed with the design of the hardware, but said that the specs "blows the competition out of the water." He also said there were some features with "potential", like the IR blaster, and the touchless controls. 

Overall, he was impressed with the features added, but does admit that he always disables Smart Scroll. TouchWiz did not get much love from Mr. Kondik though. The best he could say about TouchWiz was that it had gotten more consistent. Although, right after saying that, he said that different parts of the OS feel "mismatched", which seems to contradict the consistency part of things. He ended up taking a pretty big swing at TouchWiz, going so far as to say "it feels like it has been sent a few years back in time to the Froyo days." Ouch. 

We're looking forward to seeing what Mr. Kondik gets up to not that he's leaving Samsung, and we'll keep watch. 

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posted on 25 Mar 2013, 13:57 23

1. ebubekir26 (Posts: 311; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


still waiting for the Note III
agree or not you know it's going to beat EVERY device.
(truth dislikes over 3,,,,2,,,,1.)

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 13:59 20

3. g2a5b0e (Posts: 2157; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


Most definitely agree. That will be my next purchase.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 14:00 13

4. ebubekir26 (Posts: 311; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


mine too ;D

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 14:29 11

15. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5723; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Me too as well. Based on what has been released to date and the expectation the iP5S will be a warmed-over iP5, the Note III is shaping up to be the killer handset for 2013.

There was a lot of potential (Sony Z, HTC One come to mind), but execution kind of left them hanging.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 14:04 13

8. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3454; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I disagree.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 14:54 13

22. bluescreen (Posts: 154; Member since: 22 Nov 2012)


5 thumbs up for u?? that has to be the most thumbs up u have ever gotten for one of ur comments on here.....gotta be a personal best lol....

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 14:58 9

24. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


You will agree for iNOTE3 which apple will make in 2020 :)

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 18:15 5

49. lyndon420 (Posts: 1731; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


I always look forward to your posts Mxyz. Always so informative and insightful.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 19:59

58. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Mxyzptlk what phones do you use and you've used befor?

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 20:02 3

59. ZeroCide (Posts: 687; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)


Noone really cares what you agree or disagree

posted on 26 Mar 2013, 08:19

71. tedkord (Posts: 4644; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Hey everyone. The mischievous imp from the 5th dimension disagrees with someone saying something positive about a non-Apple product. SHOCKING!

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 14:09 11

9. BiN4RY (Posts: 81; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)


Because Galaxy Note 3 is TOTALLY relevant to this news article

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 14:18 8

11. Feanor (Posts: 304; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)


Thumbs down for the completely irrelevant comment. Do you people read at least the article title before you comment?

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 14:37 5

17. ebubekir26 (Posts: 311; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


irrevelant ? wait -_-
did YOU read the article ,, the article is about Samsung, and also about the S4 beeing dissapointing, so I wrote something about The Note III, how stupid that people follow the likes and dislikes they don't even know who's right,..
people hate Samsung because of the design but it's not that bad at all
just exagerated

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 15:07 2

26. Feanor (Posts: 304; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)


The article is about an ex-Samsung employee and his opinion about the S4 and Samsung software, not about everything Samsung... the article also mentions the word 'IR blaster'; shall I start talking about my TV remote control?

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 18:51

54. wando77 (Posts: 282; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)


If you want to

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 15:05 9

25. AamirSIII (banned) (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Oct 2012)


i really dont understand where the hell is disappointment in his comments? he only said that about touchwiz which everybody says and as a matter of fact everybody, somewhere in their heart, love touchwiz! i love touchwiz, no matter anybody dislike my comment! touchwiz is the only manufacturer launcher which can do double than almost all of the other manufacturer's launchers! u can not get the greatness of S-Pen with out touchwiz! u can not get the sweetness of using S3 or S4 without touchwiz!

i am a power user, i love my smartphone to be very powerful, hardware wise, and very very intuitive and with loads of everything of my choice and its the sammy's devices that have both Most Powerful hardware and Touchwiz! if that was not the case, S3 would have not sold more than 50 million units worldwide, and sammy would not have been the biggest mobile manufacturer of the world! Period!!!

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 17:55 2

46. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 762; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)


yahh, its getting really sad to know that the hate evolves too much... lets just be thankful that samsung has created s2, s3 and note devices that pushed the hardware and software limits and make the competition hot and there you go, your favor8 devices now from any manufacturers are trying the same and give the best devices around..

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 15:58 5

34. archangel9 (Posts: 230; Member since: 07 Feb 2010)


Ditto here.Reason why I love my Note 2 even more

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 17:01 1

38. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Since I dont look for a phone that beats EVERY other device....I cant agree.

I look for a phone that handles MY wants n needs the best, not what it can do better than another phone.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 17:41 2

42. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)


The haters just need to learn to accept it, the Exynos 5 in the international version is going to destroy every phone till the Tegra 4i and snapdragon 800 are out.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 18:09

47. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Even the S800 will be on par with if it was Exynos A15 QC

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 13:58 4

2. jphillips63 (Posts: 171; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


I hope he jumps to Motorola and work with the new upcoming phones for the future. If not well wishes for you sir

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 14:02 8

5. Kreft (Posts: 84; Member since: 27 Dec 2012)


The S4 would be a nice phone with stock Android. If a good working build comes out I'd maybe consider the phone. Touchwiz is horrible.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 15:12 8

27. SleepingOz (unregistered)


Touchwiz is no where near horrible. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many recognized devs/senior members supporting it on XDA. In fact, many AOSP GSIII users have returned to the stock firmware(via custom builds) after the Premium Suite update. Most GNOTE II users are also sticking to the official firmware. AOSP looks good and has a coherent interface(holo UI) but you get only the basics.(No pop-up features/smart features, no multi-window, basic camera interface with poor options, no S-pen support etc..)

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 17:42 3

43. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)


Touchwiz used to suck, atleast its not like sense where it coats android in a thick layer of crap most people don't want.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 18:12

48. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Sense5 is Ram and CPU hog: takes up to much power and resources....!

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 19:55

57. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


People who thumbed me down should download an app called System Panel, there it will show you that Sense takes up 90MB of RAM and the CPU idels thresholds at 65%, but that's on the Htc OneX+ don't know about sense 5! Surely it has blink feed which will take up 100MB of RAM to!

posted on 26 Mar 2013, 01:04

68. heyhi (Posts: 124; Member since: 19 Feb 2013)


i dont now about the power, what i know is that Sense 5 looks cartoonish.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 19:29

56. SleepingOz (unregistered)


Touchwiz on Gingerbread, two years ago..

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 20:52 1

60. synthetic_llama (Posts: 19; Member since: 06 Jan 2013)


I agree with him. Touchwiz does suck until the Premium Suite (multi-window, pop features and some other beneficial ones.. if cyanogen still considers doing the collab with was it cornerstone? Onskreen for multi window. Even though google suggested not to. Though Samsung did.. now they should then i would go AOSP on my note 2 or 3 if cyano or some AOSP does that.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 14:04 2

6. pokerc (Posts: 55; Member since: 24 May 2012)


By competition he must mean iphone and BlackBerry. Certainly not the HTC one!

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 14:48 2

19. Aeires (unregistered)


He actually said the hardware felt more solid than the S3 did, and using the S3 every day, that had to be a compliment. My take is he felt Touchwiz needs some polishing to make it more standardized across applications. Other than that, he really didn't run down the S4.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 15:34

30. baldilocks (Posts: 505; Member since: 14 Dec 2008)


Like his opinion matters to me. Cyanogen was always a battery killer anyway.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 15:45

31. Taters (Posts: 2849; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Where did he say that he was not impressed with the hardware? The HTC fan boy editors need to stop making things up to help HTC. I know the Apple editors do but no Android fan editors should soil their journalistic integrity by doing so.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 15:56 8

33. ahhxd717 (Posts: 317; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)


Who brought up HTC? You are obsessed. Omg Samsung is so awesome and I worship everything they do. And HTC is soooo terrible and evil. Wtf are you talking about?

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 16:46

37. Taters (Posts: 2849; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


From the editors previous articles and it isn't hard to deduce why he added some false information to this story. He could be doing it to prop up the upcoming 5s but that is too far away, so HTC fanboyism is the only logical conclusion.

Unless there is another reason for the fabrication. If you come up with a better explanation let me know.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 17:44 1

45. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)


OMG Apple iphone 5s with a new 720p screen and they finally caught up to processors from 2011 and there at 1.5ghz dual core now!

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 18:50 2

53. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


This was in the article: "blows the competition out of the water."

It's funny how you could tie HTC into this and call the editor out for being biased.

I know you're probably going to call me HTC fanboy AGAIN after reading this. LOL...

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 20:56

61. Taters (Posts: 2849; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


TVLearn how to read. He fabricated that Kondik was not impressed with the design of the GS4 hardware when Kondik didn't say anything remotely close to that like what you quoted just proves.

If that is not the work of an HTC fanboy, a person who constantly whines about Samsung design, then I don't know what is. You do the math. Only an HTC fanboy or Apple fanboy would fabricate that. Considering that the 5s is a long ways off and Apple fans are still in hiding, that only leaves an HTC fanboy.

If you can't see that, then you are more moronic than I thought. Lol

posted on 26 Mar 2013, 01:01 1

66. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


Have you even taken the time to read Kondik's post?

"It's a solid device and a clear choice if you are upgrading from the GS2. You'll feel right at home if you have a GS3 currently, but upgrading is probably less urgent (especially if you're on contract)."

Sound like Kondik was really excited with the hardware... Apparently you haven't been around long enough to see the days when I praised SGS3. Keep spouting what you want, a intelligent enough person wouldn't have to respond to others with insults. If Samsung is becoming such a cult with followers like you, I'm rather glad that SGS4 didn't impress me as much as SGS3 did. Go ahead, rant on again after my post. I haven't met anyone on here as entertaining as you since taco.

posted on 26 Mar 2013, 01:03

67. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


Oh wait... I forgot to mention HTC since I'm such a fanboy...

LOL!

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 16:02 4

35. archangel9 (Posts: 230; Member since: 07 Feb 2010)


Everybody knows that HTC is Apple's new bitch.That's why the One was made to look like the IPhone

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 17:43

44. ngo2dd (Posts: 781; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


It is funny how people say the one like like an iPhone but when Samsung design the S1 and S2. It look nothing like the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. Got ya if Samsung did it, it is not copy but another even look similar btw it is not this they are copying. Sound like an apple fanboy to me.

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 02:23

72. Trex95 (Posts: 543; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)


It seems that you forget that Samsung the biggest Apple fan and Asst CEO of Samsung it's one of the biggest Apple fan Lol.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 16:04

36. ahhxd717 (Posts: 317; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)


I know I seem like I'm trolling you, but I'm not trying to. really lol.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 17:08

40. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Funny seeing hate towards one of the best ROM makers in Android land. I guess the Galaxy S line, Samsung phones really are popular.....to create, attract rabid fanboys......

This is a big deal for those in the ROM scene. Interesting where he goes next, if thats an option.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 18:15 1

50. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Cyanogen Mod Roms are buggy!
AOKP AOSP Roms are much better!
MIUI Liquid Roms are also good!

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 18:53 2

55. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


I have 2 tablets and 2 phones running CM10.1... All of them are working great and I never had the urge to have to flash anything else.

I tried a couple of AOKP AOSP ROMs on my wife SGS2, and they were the worse experience. I tried over 5 difference ones to find one that actually worked like I expected.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 21:43

63. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Not gonna get into a best ROM debate....but Cyanogen has always had one of the best ROMs....dating back to the Droid 1 days....

I know when I was into custom ROMs...Cyanogen always had the edge with features. I havent done ROMs since the Droid 1, Droid X1

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 17:11

41. murtazarzv (Posts: 2; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


samsung dont want him...samsung is a huge one...great smartphone of the year samsung galaxy s 4 and other galaxies too

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 21:27 1

62. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 5399; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


This is a bad news for Samsung fans, I wonder what's happening this year, everything is changing.

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 23:56

64. meloth1991 (Posts: 21; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)


I really like note 2....but the note 3 expected to come with a 5.9 inch screen is nt my thing! it might hav the best specs but the current note 2 screen size is the max for a phone!
if u want a bigr screen go fr a tab

posted on 25 Mar 2013, 23:59

65. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1344; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


This is odd. I read about this on another site and didn't get the negative vibe that they make it out to be. He said that they hadn't really changed the design, but he wasn't negative about it. He also said that Touchwiz was reverting back to Gingerbread, not Froyo. But he was happy with the specs and not so much with TW. Also he mentioned that coming from a Galaxy S2 that an upgrade to the S4 was a no brainer. I don't know where you got that stuff about Froyo from.

Really it makes sense, carriers are going to be going after people who's contracts are coming up, not the ones in the middle of them. While it does have some great features, the S4 is not enough of a leap forward to make me wanna buy one retail when my S3 is only a year old. At this point the only thing I may even look at this year is Moto's X phone. The Nexus is out, since it's not on Verizon and we don't have service from any other carrier for 30 miles around us, otherwise I'd love to give one of them a shot. From what I can gather the X phone is the closest thing we'll see as far as a stock Nexus type experience on VZW. Hopefully in the future when everyone's using LTE for voice and data, we hopefully won't have to deal with this carrier exclusivity anymore.

posted on 26 Mar 2013, 02:29

69. legend1 (Posts: 102; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


i'm gonna change my name to steve just to become a computer genius

posted on 26 Mar 2013, 03:33

70. hypermagz (Posts: 18; Member since: 31 Dec 2012)


The only thing im seeing here as the reason would be samsung is ready to tizen's way...

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