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1. jonartpop (Posts: 152; Member since: 25 Oct 2012)
The specs are quite the same as the rumours so far.
4. _Bone_ (Posts: 2061; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Well done on the design, but that's an epic bezel around what looks like a small screen compared to the whole thing. It also has past season hardware.
11. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
I absolutely concur with your sentiments.
5. catt4u (Posts: 56; Member since: 09 Jul 2011)
Pitty it has only medio core specs with a 4.2" screen and dualcore processor.
This new Z10 won't be able to compete with the latest Android high-end devices with 5" screens and running the latest quad cores (soon eight cores)
I think these specs wil only be enough to pull customers away from iPhone users who used to be BB users.
7. korean411 (Posts: 38; Member since: 04 May 2009)
i would say time will tell but i think the infrastructure of BB10 will get people like the BBM hub and etc.
13. sithvenger (banned) (Posts: 371; Member since: 25 Aug 2012)
It's not all about specs droider. It's about how it all comes together for the end user experience. This is y the iPhone is such a phenomenal device.
27. Xtasy (Posts: 270; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
I tried the iphone out yesterday and hated it....it's seems more like a toy than a phone. where is multi tasking? and typing on it truly sucks. u can never get the same feel like the bb has
36. sithvenger (banned) (Posts: 371; Member since: 25 Aug 2012)
Then obviously it's not for u, but if you're trying to diss it...forget it. It's an excellent device, not without its short comings but an excellent device. If u tried it out n the store, that's not good enough. Spend some time hands on with it, get into it, and you'd see.
37. sithvenger (banned) (Posts: 371; Member since: 25 Aug 2012)
And u double click the home button to bring up the multitasking tray. Works greats as well.
45. catt4u (Posts: 56; Member since: 09 Jul 2011)
Real multitasking only works great on Android devices.
Just try to run live splitscreen or a video on top of another app in iOS
64. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
Except fot the fact that BB10, MeeGo, Symbian are better at multi-tasking (real) than Android.
65. catt4u (Posts: 56; Member since: 09 Jul 2011)
Ahhh, MeeGo? Symbian?
Are we going back to the stoneage?
Regarding BB10 I can not say anything, because I have not had the opportunity to play with it yet.
But as far as the BB10 YouTube movies show, I haven't seen any demo of the split-screen with two apps running nor a video running on top of an app though.
66. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
Going back to the stone age comment makes no sense when the fact that both of these OSes have their fans and people USE the phones. Come and tell Android is best at multi-tasking when it doesn't lag or freeze while running 8 apps. "Video running top of an app", so tell me do you watch a video while playing angry birds or temple run or running whatever app you are on. Get real man.
67. catt4u (Posts: 56; Member since: 09 Jul 2011)
You're right about the fact people are using those OSes but there are also people still using monochrome displays on their phones and txt sms ;)
For those iOS is the right choise as those people like to keep it safe (like in the past we used to use it).
I think it's perfect for older people ;)
Regarding the multi-tasking you've got to ask yourself on which device would you run 8 apps simultaniously.
But non the less if you follow the link, you'll see that running 4 LIVE VIDEOS will run simultaneously on the Note 2 running Android.
(starting at approx. 4:00")
And I can confirm the Note 2 runs VERY smooth with Android.
It's just no match for any other OS at this time.
14. korean411 (Posts: 38; Member since: 04 May 2009)
tech specs wise i have to agree high end android phones like the note 3, and gs4 which is most likely come out this year will be massive.
29. Xtasy (Posts: 270; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
That's cuz your korean...of coarse u would say that lol
47. korean411 (Posts: 38; Member since: 04 May 2009)
lolz. nice comment lolz but seriousness when i looked at the press conference today i was impressed actually blackberry showed me more than i expected. all in all they pulled out everything they could do with BB hub bbm and bb10os. Tech wise pretty average but there OS might get some people to get it but i believe that obviously bb users will get this before people consider switching. hope they do well like i said in a post earlire
48. korean411 (Posts: 38; Member since: 04 May 2009)
i am gonna try this for like about a month once it comes out and see how it performs cause i have a good amount of friends and cousins who use blackberry and are going to get this
15. freebee269 (Posts: 496; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
i have to agree. if i use my device to do any kind of work on it for my job, a bigger screen is more attractive to me. maybe the OS will be what people are more interested in. maybe the true multitasking is the attraction. with iphone reportedly coming out with new phones, i dont think this will be enough to pull those iphones users back to BB. not saying i dont want BB to succeed, i just dont think this phone spec-wise is enough.
20. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 156; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Yeah, when a Droid with 8 core works smoother and faster than this BB10, give me a call. You make it sound as if an octa core will get you pu$$y. Do you actually make full use of a dual core?
22. freebee269 (Posts: 496; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
depends if the app is coded to make use of it. most apps arent. especially apps like instagram or facebook. they dont do enough to warrant needing to use both cores. but that still doesnt help the consumer. if you are going to pick up a phone, cand you have a BB10 with 4.2 inch screen and dual core processor for $99 (just a comparison) and right next to it is an android with 4.7 inch 1080p screen with quad core processor for $99, why wouldnt i buy the better spec phone for the same price?
24. Xtasy (Posts: 270; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
because the phone with the better specs gets errors all the time and why do people choose iphone than? Android is just a software...they need better specs to attract people cuz otherwise nobody would give a dam with all the errors and crappy battery life, etc...i have a samsung galaxy tab and i got tired of it looooong time ago. blackberry 10 is what people want and need
28. freebee269 (Posts: 496; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
why is iphone going with bigger screens in the future then? thats right, people want bigger screens. using iphone as an example didnt help you. iphone has crappy battery life also. i'm not trying to defend android, i'm saying people DO want bigger screens and upgraded hardware, to say "people dont need it" or it's not needed means you are blind.
30. Xtasy (Posts: 270; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
No using iphone as an example did help me cuz people go for the experience not just high end specs which android needs compared to other phones...Ye but are bigger screens gonna attract people forever? no cuz how much bigger can u go for a phone? and it's as if other companies can't make bigger screens...The one thing blackberry 10 has that other phones don't is this amazing new software...the bigger screen is looking stupid after 4.8 inches...no i can see people want bigger screens but any phone company can make bigger screens....soon enough they will have to thread bigger pockets in jeans and pants to fit those bigger screens lmao
38. freebee269 (Posts: 496; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
android had 68.4% global market share. that's alot of people going for the android experience and liking it. your arguement is flawed.
44. nwright94 (unregistered)
McDonalds sells the most cheeseburgers, does that mean they make the absolute best burgers? Android is doing so well because its on a wide variety of devices, probably the majority of android devices are lower-end phones that people can afford, I doubt the majority are the new bleeding-edge beasts. Being open-sourced and any manufacturer is able to use it, that gives it a huge advantage in terms of getting market share. Android isn't bad at all, but you can't use market share to say its best.
51. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 156; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
If everyone jumps of the bridge, are you gonna follow, because it's obviously the best choice?
Android is on every goddamn device these days, people don't have a choice. Most members here prove how stupid one can get without understanding the consequences of monopoly. Good luck with your overpowered lifeless and useless octa core droid. I'll enjoy the new BB10 and Sailfish devices after my lovely single core N9 that works faster than your pathetic GS3.
52. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 156; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Big screens are just a trend. They will start competing yet again who will make a more portable and pocketable device. If I want a big screen, I'll bring my laptop or a freaking tablet. A phone is supposed to be practical. All the iPhones, BB Z10, Nokia N9 are just examples of UI done right. Try using a Note 2 or the new 6 inch screens while walking. You'll have to sit on a bench and dial a simple number to call with both hands.
And please don't tell me you're Shaquille O'Neal with hands the size of tennis raquets.
23. Xtasy (Posts: 270; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
Nobody needs android with their huge screens and and high end devices...we need a decent sized screen so it fits beautifully in our hands and a software that is way better than android...and that right there is Blackberry 10 B****
25. freebee269 (Posts: 496; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
galaxy s3, note 1 and 2, htc one x and one x+ etc sales say different. if that was the case then lower end spec androids would be selling better than higher end spec ones. but they arent.
31. Xtasy (Posts: 270; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
Android needs higher end specs on their devices...
33. Xtasy (Posts: 270; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
iPhone 5 – Apple A6 1.2GHz dual-core CPU, triple-core PowerVR SGX 543MP3 GPU, 1GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S3 – Exynos 4412 1.4GHz Quad-core CPU
and the iphone has a lot more power than the S3 so there goes your proof
39. freebee269 (Posts: 496; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
so you're arguing that phones dont need higher end specs, and you use the iphone as an example, yet you link the iphone 5 specs to try to show that it has higher specs than the gs3. lol. you win, ignorance is bliss.
42. Xtasy (Posts: 270; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
Yes ignoriance is bliss when u are lost at conversation...I never said it has higher specs than the gs3. I'm showing u that even though it has lower specs than the gs3 it is still much more powerful than gs3 and works flawlessly in comparison...durrrrr
55. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 156; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Apparently, Average Joes require high specs. But what use does he get of a quad core when it takes longer to complete tasks than a dual core? Also, do keep in mind that CPU architectures matter, a dual core A15 is faster than a quad A7, for instance. You're just a guy that needs high specs in order to compensate your insecurities and brag to your friends.
41. HouTexan (Posts: 283; Member since: 08 Jan 2012)
It doesn't have "more power", sir. It runs a lot LESS than an android device does, so it doesn't need much. Why you're trying to diss Android, who knows? But it surely isn't working out for you.
43. Xtasy (Posts: 270; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
When i say more power i'm speaking of benchmarking speeds...Hello!!!
It's a faster phone...oh and for your information i'm not trying to diss android cuz i would prefer an android over an iphone any day...cuz i'm a multi tasker...i'm just trying to prove a point lol
54. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 156; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
A lot less? That's an excuse that matter when the first Droid came out. Android is a painful inefficient mess of an OS. Just check out app launch speed between ( what freebee would call lowspec, dual core) an iPhone 5 and a high spec Note II. Software is what matters.
57. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 156; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
A6 is a 1.3GHz, while A6X is a 1.4GHz. CPU benchmarks are not far off a quad core and yet a dual. Efficient OS and an extremely powerful GPU are what matter in everyday performance. You give two people a S4 and an Exynos GS3s, nobody would know the difference,
53. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 156; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
In which country? Qatar? Low spec Android phones are selling the most. Android would have never gotten where it is if Symbian was updated in time. Killing off Symbian and having cheap Droids resulted in Android's success.
8. dexter_jdr (Posts: 999; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
4.2" ? well thats new... rather than 4.3"
9. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
Welcome back to the party Blackberry. Don't call it a comeback because it wasn't like you left. I am wishing Blackberry 10 all the best. There is room for 4 players in the market, th emore competition there is the better it is for consumers. Blackberry I like what I see so far from the specs and the phone. My only gripe is that you wasted so much screen space for no reason smdh!! All in All I am happy to see Blackberry 10 come out swinging best of luck. Time will tell if consumers will adapt the platform or go for the latter. Best of luck RIM, Blackberry to the World!!
10. korean411 (Posts: 38; Member since: 04 May 2009)
I wish them luck i truly do the demo impressed me because RIM gave me more than i expected on BB10 even though it seems that there are some learning curve but BB10 looks good in the demo so far it's just how the consumer will look at it. like the hub, BBM, and their own verison of multi-tasking features. Best that luck to you RIM
12. helloct (Posts: 2; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)
Live streaming The BlackBerry 10 Experience event: Seems like I finnaly found my next mobile OS after the Maemo/MeeGo experience:
The same Multitasking experience + all in one FINGER.
16. simplyj (Posts: 404; Member since: 23 Dec 2009)
In which version of Android become a true multitasking system? 4.0? 4.1?
17. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
I am seriously looking at grabbing a Z10 but I need to see reviews and first hand impression first. I think I have found my second phone for 2013!! Good on you RIM for Nabbing Alcia Keys as your brand ambassador!! Kudos!
18. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 156; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
"BB10 is a true multitasking system, like Android"
BB10 - YES; Android - NO
21. freebee269 (Posts: 496; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
you're on androidarena. misinformation about android is expected.
60. lyndon420 (Posts: 1640; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Yes... the misinformation runs rampant when non-droid users attempt to speak.
61. nwright94 (unregistered)
It goes both ways. Got the misinformed on every platform.
34. s.mrabet (Posts: 117; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
26. darkvadervip (Posts: 275; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)
It's funny how people dog out windows, apple , and now blackberry when in fact I don't care if it quad core or single core you still mainly just surf the net , play games, text, and talk. If you want a computer buy a laptop, netbook, or ultrabook. I feel windows is the best but its lack of apps hurts it, apple is good but need a new look, blackberry looks cool, android is ok but too many force closes for me. In short just like what you like there are great choices.
32. freebee269 (Posts: 496; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
"In short just like what you like there are great choices."
i agree. i am a tech fan. i dont take sides on any manfuacturer. i just go with what i like and is attractive to me. i also go with what is working with the most manfacturer support. thats why i currently have a lumia 920. i use it the most out of my phones. nokia has great support and exclusive software for their phones. i also own a galaxy s3. i like android and what it has to offer. sony xperia looks attractive to me and i will go play with it when it hits the stores and see how it performs. i'm looking forward to the gs4. i just want to see can it live up to the sales that the gs3 has gotten and what new features does samsung bring to the galaxy line. i used to be a supporter of iphone, but i stopped using iphone when the iphone 4 came out. around that time android had caught up with IOS in the app market and android phones started overtaking iphone in specs. i like what windows has to offer, it is different. i will also go play with a blackberry z10 and see how that performs also. i will have an open mind and it will have a chance to get me to buy one. the more choices i have as a consumer, the better off i am and innovation keeps rolling.
56. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 156; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Spoiled kid = level over 9000
Which Droid has better specs than the iPhone 5? I don't like iPhone, but the A6/X are beasts when it comes to CPU and graphics. That dual core in an iPhone is slightly slower but it is accompanied by much better and efficient software. As for the GPUs, don't even go there.
58. freebee269 (Posts: 496; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
how does this have anything to do with what i said?
nevermind dont answer that. you win man. i dont care enough to keep entertaining you.