BlackBerry Z10 is here: all-touch and with 70,000 BB10 apps behind it

6. korean411 posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:11 4 1

Yes good luck to them

11. CardiWPfan posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:15 2 1

I absolutely concur with your sentiments.

35. imkyle posted on 30 Jan 2013, 11:03 0 0

Who cares about a bezel.

7. korean411 posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:12 1 1

i would say time will tell but i think the infrastructure of BB10 will get people like the BBM hub and etc.

13. sithvenger (banned) posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:16 10 7

It's not all about specs droider. It's about how it all comes together for the end user experience. This is y the iPhone is such a phenomenal device.

27. Xtasy posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:47 5 0

I tried the iphone out yesterday and hated it....it's seems more like a toy than a phone. where is multi tasking? and typing on it truly sucks. u can never get the same feel like the bb has

36. sithvenger (banned) posted on 30 Jan 2013, 11:03 2 2

Then obviously it's not for u, but if you're trying to diss it...forget it. It's an excellent device, not without its short comings but an excellent device. If u tried it out n the store, that's not good enough. Spend some time hands on with it, get into it, and you'd see.

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37. sithvenger (banned) posted on 30 Jan 2013, 11:06 0 1

And u double click the home button to bring up the multitasking tray. Works greats as well.

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45. catt4u posted on 30 Jan 2013, 13:18 0 0

Real multitasking only works great on Android devices.

Just try to run live splitscreen or a video on top of another app in iOS

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64. No_Nonsense posted on 31 Jan 2013, 07:03 0 0

Except fot the fact that BB10, MeeGo, Symbian are better at multi-tasking (real) than Android.

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65. catt4u posted on 31 Jan 2013, 09:02 0 0

Ahhh, MeeGo? Symbian?
Are we going back to the stoneage?

Regarding BB10 I can not say anything, because I have not had the opportunity to play with it yet.

But as far as the BB10 YouTube movies show, I haven't seen any demo of the split-screen with two apps running nor a video running on top of an app though.

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66. No_Nonsense posted on 31 Jan 2013, 09:18 0 0

Going back to the stone age comment makes no sense when the fact that both of these OSes have their fans and people USE the phones. Come and tell Android is best at multi-tasking when it doesn't lag or freeze while running 8 apps. "Video running top of an app", so tell me do you watch a video while playing angry birds or temple run or running whatever app you are on. Get real man.

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67. catt4u posted on 31 Jan 2013, 12:18 0 0

You're right about the fact people are using those OSes but there are also people still using monochrome displays on their phones and txt sms ;)

For those iOS is the right choise as those people like to keep it safe (like in the past we used to use it).
I think it's perfect for older people ;)

Regarding the multi-tasking you've got to ask yourself on which device would you run 8 apps simultaniously.

But non the less if you follow the link, you'll see that running 4 LIVE VIDEOS will run simultaneously on the Note 2 running Android.
(starting at approx. 4:00")

http://youtu.be/9nh2NSLgaII

And I can confirm the Note 2 runs VERY smooth with Android.
It's just no match for any other OS at this time.

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14. korean411 posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:17 1 0

tech specs wise i have to agree high end android phones like the note 3, and gs4 which is most likely come out this year will be massive.

29. Xtasy posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:48 1 1

That's cuz your korean...of coarse u would say that lol

47. korean411 posted on 30 Jan 2013, 13:59 0 0

lolz. nice comment lolz but seriousness when i looked at the press conference today i was impressed actually blackberry showed me more than i expected. all in all they pulled out everything they could do with BB hub bbm and bb10os. Tech wise pretty average but there OS might get some people to get it but i believe that obviously bb users will get this before people consider switching. hope they do well like i said in a post earlire

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48. korean411 posted on 30 Jan 2013, 14:02 0 0

i am gonna try this for like about a month once it comes out and see how it performs cause i have a good amount of friends and cousins who use blackberry and are going to get this

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15. freebee269 posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:18 1 1

i have to agree. if i use my device to do any kind of work on it for my job, a bigger screen is more attractive to me. maybe the OS will be what people are more interested in. maybe the true multitasking is the attraction. with iphone reportedly coming out with new phones, i dont think this will be enough to pull those iphones users back to BB. not saying i dont want BB to succeed, i just dont think this phone spec-wise is enough.

20. picka_vi_materina posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:29 10 2

Yeah, when a Droid with 8 core works smoother and faster than this BB10, give me a call. You make it sound as if an octa core will get you pu$$y. Do you actually make full use of a dual core?

22. freebee269 posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:37 1 0

depends if the app is coded to make use of it. most apps arent. especially apps like instagram or facebook. they dont do enough to warrant needing to use both cores. but that still doesnt help the consumer. if you are going to pick up a phone, cand you have a BB10 with 4.2 inch screen and dual core processor for $99 (just a comparison) and right next to it is an android with 4.7 inch 1080p screen with quad core processor for $99, why wouldnt i buy the better spec phone for the same price?

24. Xtasy posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:42 1 0

because the phone with the better specs gets errors all the time and why do people choose iphone than? Android is just a software...they need better specs to attract people cuz otherwise nobody would give a dam with all the errors and crappy battery life, etc...i have a samsung galaxy tab and i got tired of it looooong time ago. blackberry 10 is what people want and need

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28. freebee269 posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:47 1 1

why is iphone going with bigger screens in the future then? thats right, people want bigger screens. using iphone as an example didnt help you. iphone has crappy battery life also. i'm not trying to defend android, i'm saying people DO want bigger screens and upgraded hardware, to say "people dont need it" or it's not needed means you are blind.

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30. Xtasy posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:53 2 1

No using iphone as an example did help me cuz people go for the experience not just high end specs which android needs compared to other phones...Ye but are bigger screens gonna attract people forever? no cuz how much bigger can u go for a phone? and it's as if other companies can't make bigger screens...The one thing blackberry 10 has that other phones don't is this amazing new software...the bigger screen is looking stupid after 4.8 inches...no i can see people want bigger screens but any phone company can make bigger screens....soon enough they will have to thread bigger pockets in jeans and pants to fit those bigger screens lmao

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38. freebee269 posted on 30 Jan 2013, 11:08 1 0

android had 68.4% global market share. that's alot of people going for the android experience and liking it. your arguement is flawed.

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44. nwright94 (unregistered) posted on 30 Jan 2013, 12:03 2 0

McDonalds sells the most cheeseburgers, does that mean they make the absolute best burgers? Android is doing so well because its on a wide variety of devices, probably the majority of android devices are lower-end phones that people can afford, I doubt the majority are the new bleeding-edge beasts. Being open-sourced and any manufacturer is able to use it, that gives it a huge advantage in terms of getting market share. Android isn't bad at all, but you can't use market share to say its best.

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51. picka_vi_materina posted on 30 Jan 2013, 15:31 0 0

If everyone jumps of the bridge, are you gonna follow, because it's obviously the best choice?

Android is on every goddamn device these days, people don't have a choice. Most members here prove how stupid one can get without understanding the consequences of monopoly. Good luck with your overpowered lifeless and useless octa core droid. I'll enjoy the new BB10 and Sailfish devices after my lovely single core N9 that works faster than your pathetic GS3.

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52. picka_vi_materina posted on 30 Jan 2013, 15:35 1 0

Big screens are just a trend. They will start competing yet again who will make a more portable and pocketable device. If I want a big screen, I'll bring my laptop or a freaking tablet. A phone is supposed to be practical. All the iPhones, BB Z10, Nokia N9 are just examples of UI done right. Try using a Note 2 or the new 6 inch screens while walking. You'll have to sit on a bench and dial a simple number to call with both hands.

And please don't tell me you're Shaquille O'Neal with hands the size of tennis raquets.

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23. Xtasy posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:38 2 2

Nobody needs android with their huge screens and and high end devices...we need a decent sized screen so it fits beautifully in our hands and a software that is way better than android...and that right there is Blackberry 10 B****

25. freebee269 posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:45 2 0

galaxy s3, note 1 and 2, htc one x and one x+ etc sales say different. if that was the case then lower end spec androids would be selling better than higher end spec ones. but they arent.

31. Xtasy posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:55 0 0

Android needs higher end specs on their devices...

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33. Xtasy posted on 30 Jan 2013, 11:02 2 1

iPhone 5 – Apple A6 1.2GHz dual-core CPU, triple-core PowerVR SGX 543MP3 GPU, 1GB RAM

Samsung Galaxy S3 – Exynos 4412 1.4GHz Quad-core CPU

and the iphone has a lot more power than the S3 so there goes your proof

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39. freebee269 posted on 30 Jan 2013, 11:10 1 2

so you're arguing that phones dont need higher end specs, and you use the iphone as an example, yet you link the iphone 5 specs to try to show that it has higher specs than the gs3. lol. you win, ignorance is bliss.

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42. Xtasy posted on 30 Jan 2013, 11:34 2 0

Yes ignoriance is bliss when u are lost at conversation...I never said it has higher specs than the gs3. I'm showing u that even though it has lower specs than the gs3 it is still much more powerful than gs3 and works flawlessly in comparison...durrrrr

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55. picka_vi_materina posted on 30 Jan 2013, 15:46 2 0

Apparently, Average Joes require high specs. But what use does he get of a quad core when it takes longer to complete tasks than a dual core? Also, do keep in mind that CPU architectures matter, a dual core A15 is faster than a quad A7, for instance. You're just a guy that needs high specs in order to compensate your insecurities and brag to your friends.

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41. HouTexan posted on 30 Jan 2013, 11:34 0 1

It doesn't have "more power", sir. It runs a lot LESS than an android device does, so it doesn't need much. Why you're trying to diss Android, who knows? But it surely isn't working out for you.

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43. Xtasy posted on 30 Jan 2013, 11:38 1 0

When i say more power i'm speaking of benchmarking speeds...Hello!!!

It's a faster phone...oh and for your information i'm not trying to diss android cuz i would prefer an android over an iphone any day...cuz i'm a multi tasker...i'm just trying to prove a point lol

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54. picka_vi_materina posted on 30 Jan 2013, 15:43 0 0

A lot less? That's an excuse that matter when the first Droid came out. Android is a painful inefficient mess of an OS. Just check out app launch speed between ( what freebee would call lowspec, dual core) an iPhone 5 and a high spec Note II. Software is what matters.

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57. picka_vi_materina posted on 30 Jan 2013, 15:55 0 0

Slight correction:

A6 is a 1.3GHz, while A6X is a 1.4GHz. CPU benchmarks are not far off a quad core and yet a dual. Efficient OS and an extremely powerful GPU are what matter in everyday performance. You give two people a S4 and an Exynos GS3s, nobody would know the difference,

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53. picka_vi_materina posted on 30 Jan 2013, 15:39 1 0

In which country? Qatar? Low spec Android phones are selling the most. Android would have never gotten where it is if Symbian was updated in time. Killing off Symbian and having cheap Droids resulted in Android's success.

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19. picka_vi_materina posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:27 1 0

7.8...

21. freebee269 posted on 30 Jan 2013, 10:29 4 3

you're on androidarena. misinformation about android is expected.

60. lyndon420 posted on 30 Jan 2013, 18:27 0 1

Yes... the misinformation runs rampant when non-droid users attempt to speak.

61. nwright94 (unregistered) posted on 30 Jan 2013, 20:21 0 0

It goes both ways. Got the misinformed on every platform.

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34. s.mrabet posted on 30 Jan 2013, 11:02 1 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsc8...e_gdata_player

thats mutitasking...

32. freebee269 posted on 30 Jan 2013, 11:01 1 0

"In short just like what you like there are great choices."

i agree. i am a tech fan. i dont take sides on any manfuacturer. i just go with what i like and is attractive to me. i also go with what is working with the most manfacturer support. thats why i currently have a lumia 920. i use it the most out of my phones. nokia has great support and exclusive software for their phones. i also own a galaxy s3. i like android and what it has to offer. sony xperia looks attractive to me and i will go play with it when it hits the stores and see how it performs. i'm looking forward to the gs4. i just want to see can it live up to the sales that the gs3 has gotten and what new features does samsung bring to the galaxy line. i used to be a supporter of iphone, but i stopped using iphone when the iphone 4 came out. around that time android had caught up with IOS in the app market and android phones started overtaking iphone in specs. i like what windows has to offer, it is different. i will also go play with a blackberry z10 and see how that performs also. i will have an open mind and it will have a chance to get me to buy one. the more choices i have as a consumer, the better off i am and innovation keeps rolling.

56. picka_vi_materina posted on 30 Jan 2013, 15:52 0 0

Spoiled kid = level over 9000

Which Droid has better specs than the iPhone 5? I don't like iPhone, but the A6/X are beasts when it comes to CPU and graphics. That dual core in an iPhone is slightly slower but it is accompanied by much better and efficient software. As for the GPUs, don't even go there.

58. freebee269 posted on 30 Jan 2013, 16:14 0 0

how does this have anything to do with what i said?

nevermind dont answer that. you win man. i dont care enough to keep entertaining you.

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