Apple revises lawsuit against Samsung, doubling the number of offending devices
In addition to adding new offending devices, Apple also increased the number of its utility patents that were allegedly infringed upon by Samsung to 8 from 5 and the number of allegedly infringed upon design patents has been increased to 5 from the original 3. Apple also turned up the heat in the amended complaint by using stronger language. In the revised copy of the suit, Apple now says that Samsung produced "products that blatantly imitate the appearance of Apple's products to capitalize on Apple's success."
On Friday, Samsung was scheduled to turn over to Apple's outside legal team some of the devices in question including the Samsung Galaxy S II, Galaxy Tab 8.9 and 10.1, Infuse 4G and the DROID Charge. Besides the actual device, the outside legal team for Apple will also receive promotional material and packaging relating to each phone or tablet. A judge is scheduled to make a decision whether or not Samsung's legal team is entitled to see unannounced devices from Apple. Samsung claims that some of Apple's products copy its designs. As we reported, Apple is fighting this, saying that Samsung is harassing them over this request. After all, the Samsung products that Apple's legal team has asked to see are already available to the public in one place or another. The Apple products that Samsung is demanding to see have not yet been made public or even officially announced.
13. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
haha well thy arent doing a very good job... asking for devices when they are the defendant? idk i think they shud be making a new lawsuit for that one,..
3. BigEaze22 (Posts: 25; Member since: 17 May 2011)
apple's screwin up. they have devices on there that came out before the iphone was in progress. then they say that samsung is harassing them. I say it's reverse. Apple just wants to hold samsung down until they see fit. It may also have to do with apple earning more than multiple competitors from the last chart. as far as close can go, apple was right in front of samsung.
24. stealthd (Posts: 916; Member since: 12 Jun 2011)
They're suing based on 28 patents, this isn't just about the iPhone.
4. deezy (Posts: 46; Member since: 10 Feb 2011)
Considering Apple contracts out suppliers for parts and the designing of their components, you'd figure they'd take it easy on the lawsuits with these others companies; companies who provide resources for the apple products.
39. Phoneguy007 (Posts: 218; Member since: 02 Jun 2011)
yea I agree...I think they are in the process of dropping samsung though.
5. deezy (Posts: 46; Member since: 10 Feb 2011)
6. Sam's Song (unregistered)
All Samsung has to do is say "Some of the phones Apple says we copied were INVENTED BEFORE YOU ASSWHOLES MADE THE IPHONE. So therefore since you claim they look so similiar we should be suing you."
Lol, then watch Apple be like "Hmmm, these phones really don't look that similiar."
18. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Then Samsung has nothing to be afraid of :)
And in case you didn't know. The court already granted Apple the right to check on several Samsung devices. Obviously Apple has a strong case :)
32. Sam's Song (unregistered)
Just because they got the right to the phones doesn't mean they have a strong case.
The phones are the only they need to be able to prove the case against Samsung.
35. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
they have been allowed to see RELEASED devices, they havent been allowed to see anything behind the development curtain. Neither side has been allowed that yet.
This is just apple crying wolf. They constantly get caught ripping off other companies (HELLO ANDROID-iOS5). Hell they just had to pay Nokia BILLIONS in fines for ripping them off.
Only idiot ibots think what apple is doing is a good thing.
Also, you know this is for real because Apple is looking for new chipset suppliers.. Samsung has been their guy since the beginning.
7. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
WHAT?! The DROID Charge?! The Infuse 4G?! The Sidekick?! The FU.CKING GRAVITY?!?!?!
Apple's leadership has lost their minds. Seriously.
11. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I just looked at the sidekick and gravity....which gravity, cuz the ones I seen dont look ANYTHING like an iPhone or the iPhone UI
Apple is smoking some serious stuff.....
15. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Yea....uh...by the time someone presses the app drawer button on a phone with stock Android...I think they know its not an iPhone by then...
And in case you didnt know the 3 phones mentioned are listed for hardware too...
Unless all of a sudden the entire iPhone UI is 2-3 icons...
17. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Lucas, if anybody buys any of those phones, I can guarantee they're not buying them due to any faint resemblance to the iPhone.
33. Sam's Song (unregistered)
Doesn't the Android app drawer scroll up and down?
51. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
no we r talking about thee touchwiz here... and if a-pple pulls off a hardware sue, then i say good for them... its not like they dont let others sue them
8. Muaha (unregistered)
Previously, I kinda understood why Apple was doing this. I mean you gotta admit, the Galaxy S did sort of look like an iPhone. But I didn't get the Nexus S part.
But now, this doesn't make any sense at all! Some of these devices that just got added looks nothing like the iPhone. Look at the Replenish. It has a physical QWERTY keyboard and runs mostly on the stock interface. How does any of that look like any of the devices that Apple makes?! Even the Sidekick looks nothing like the iPhone...
12. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Yea the Replenish being mentioned is absolutely ridiculous.
44. stealthd (Posts: 916; Member since: 12 Jun 2011)
They don't have to look like the phone to infringe on a patent.
46. Muaha (unregistered)
The thing is, which patent?? I mean, look at the Replenish. In what way did that infringe on a patent? I don't really see any utility and design patents getting infringed on. Wouldn't this mean that all the other companies should be getting sued?
52. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Replenish: stock Android and looks like a Blackberry.
If anything Blackberry should be suing them...
9. IcheFae (unregistered)
And what about the other companies then? why not go after the G2x, or the plethora of HTC phones that look alike?
43. Phoneguy007 (Posts: 218; Member since: 02 Jun 2011)
I think they are more mad at sammy because they make a lot of parts for the iphone.
10. Neetin (unregistered)
Take a look at LG prada. I think Iphone 4 looks very similar to it. Ans they say they dont copy anything.
16. neo728 (unregistered)
HAHAHAHA Apple u lost it u better come out with something new and great to stay in the game.
20. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Apple will come up with something new. But before that, they need to teach the copycats a lesson :)
21. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Now, once and for all can we please get off the copycat pedstal?
22. stealthd (Posts: 916; Member since: 12 Jun 2011)
No one reading this seems to understands the concept of PATENTS. They claim all those phone infringe on one or more of their patents. They're not saying every Samsung phone is a total iPhone rip-off.
23. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
If they're going after Samsung phones with stock Android....they need to go after every stock Android phone ever made then.
The Replenish, Gravity and Sidekick is listed under hardware too...
A phone with a physical keyboard? I think no one is even looking at the new phones that got listed.
25. stealthd (Posts: 916; Member since: 12 Jun 2011)
The patents may only apply to Samsung; other manufacturers like Motorola, HTC, etc may be covered by other patents.
Having a physical keyboard doesn't magically keep it from infringing on patents.
26. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Looking at the actual patents...Samsung has been making phones before the iPhone even came out.
Having a physical keyboard should omit those phones from hardware complaints from Apple tho.
Unless Apple patented the backs or sides of phones.
41. charlie_kelly (Posts: 3; Member since: 17 Jun 2011)
That makes no sense, at all. If the phone infringes on a patent Apple owns, they can sue. That's it.
45. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
ok....looking at the icons either Apple or some lawyer put up side by side with Touchwiz icons...
Stock Android has a messaging icon thats rectangular and has a happy face. Thats the only stock Android icon thats mentioned so far.
So, Apple should sue for that one icon in stock Android? Still doesnt explain why a phone with a physical keyboard is mentioned for hardware too.
27. valentine (unregistered)
it seems as if apple is on their period again...god nows what mother nature has in stock for them.
28. natefaraci (Posts: 1; Member since: 19 Jun 2011)
How does a iPhone look like a Droid Charge?!?! Or a Sidekick
40. charlie_kelly (Posts: 3; Member since: 17 Jun 2011)
It doesn't have to look like the phone to infringe on a patent.
29. Robert235 (Posts: 50; Member since: 30 May 2010)
Smartphones in general tend to look identical to one another.I guess they should sue other companies that make candy bar phones.Apple should sue themselves from recycling the same device every year.
30. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)
if Apple were an auto maker may be no auto maker can built cars with 4-wheels.
31. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)
whatsoever Apple is suing Samsung, Apple must suing every phone makers on earth for copied touchscreen form factor,etc.
34. TreyTreyTaylor (Posts: 296; Member since: 21 Dec 2010)
Apple you make me sick. Your prices, Your advertising, Your frivolous lawsuits trying to make pioneers of the mobile industry look lame. Try this slogan, if you don't have a clue, well you don't have a clue.
36. ibap (Posts: 682; Member since: 09 Sep 2009)
Apple's legal team must be trying to justify their existence.
Apple has to have these devices turned over to them by Samsung? What, they filed this lawsuit without ever having examined them? And the promotional material has either been out there for them to quibble over, or it hasn't. If it has, then they've seen it, and if it hasn't, it isn't relevant. Apple, grow up.
And at the time this was first filed, I think some of the devices hadn't been released yet by Samsung, either, so Apple can't whine about their own.
37. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6144; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Apple need to leave this crap alone n stop making money buy sueing other companies. Dont they know Samsung makes parts for them?
38. hi (unregistered)
Lucky Steve Jobs was born after others IF not they can sue uou saying that "ass" you're walking with is a "copy ass" !!!! i hope he dont patent his cancer as his own too ? yah?... alrite i go a little too far but you know what i means?
Apple is a "sue whore" lighten up, loose up your scrotch, just chill and relax
Bring it on isheep im ready :)
47. applesauce (unregistered)
After watching the Futurama episode "Killer App", I'm convinced apple gives its legal team b.s. lawsuits so they can stay in practice for future class-action lawsuits from enlightened former iSheep about their crap products, deceptive marketing, blatant design and component copying, and wasting our time and energy avoiding their lies. Love the earlier Gizmodo link about apple's design "inspiration".
p.s. CAPTCHA includes MacWorks. iPhoneArena is going subliminal!!!
48. ``````````` (unregistered)
all you people here always complain about apple fans but maybe u should look at yourselves, because your nothing but a bunch of android fans and tht's no better
49. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Did you see where someone said they understood about the Galaxy S?
You first mistake was saying "all you people"...Why is it that some ppl only see what they wanna see?
Ppl are wondering what in the %$)* the phones with stock Android, physical keyboards and one phone with a physical keyboard and doesnt even have Android on it at all are being mentioned for.
A phone with a physical keyboard being mentioned for hardware?
50. P (unregistered)
i can't remember, did those star trek people that came out with the PADD sue apple for the iPad?