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Amazon may be developing a smartphone for 2012

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Amazon may be developing a smartphone for 2012
An Amazon smartphone seems like a natural progression in the company's steady march deeper into the world of mobile technology. But, one analyst is going beyond thinking it's a possibility to predicting that it will happen next year. 

Citigroup's research department is predicting that Amazon will put out a smartphone in Q4 of 2012. Citigroup's Mark Mahaney has put out a note saying that his hardware research team in Taipei, led by analyst Kevin Chang, is making the prediction based on what they have seen in the supply chain in Asia. Apparently, the supply chain checks make it seem as though Amazon is working with Foxconn to develop the phone for release late next year. 

The team believes the phone will be powered by a TI OMAP 4 processor, and could cost as little as $150-170 to build, and Amazon could sell the device at a very low margin. It may not be the loss-leader that the Kindle Fire is, but Amazon could still undercut competition. 

It seems like the natural progression for Amazon. Assuming the so-called "Kindle phone" would focus on selling Amazon content, as the Kindle Fire does, a phone is an easy leap for Amazon, because the market for smartphones is simply bigger than that for tablets. Even the market-leading iPad sells a fraction of what the iPhone sells. 

source: AllThingsD

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posted on 17 Nov 2011, 11:59

1. Skyrim (Posts: 36; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


That'd be cool

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 20:47

25. Corpsemaker (Posts: 63; Member since: 10 Jul 2010)


Cool name.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 12:04

2. bbblader (Posts: 575; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


is it me or is the galaxy series from samsung have the same design as this phone?

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 12:14

5. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


thats just a fan render. this is still talkin speculation from an analyst. they have like a 1 in 20 shot of being right.

That would be rather interesting. If the fire is successful, which it looks like it will be... i dont see why they wouldnt try their hand at phones.
If they keep the margins tight to increase sales while still putting in decent quality hardware and still allowing them to be easily unlocked.. it could become a very budget friendly hacker's phone.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 12:06

3. taz89 (Posts: 2009; Member since: 03 May 2011)


think a kindle phone would do really great

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 12:08

4. Skyrim (Posts: 36; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


It looks like a iphone made of the kindle fire's material with the galaxy s2 (international) key setup on bottom... But this isnt actually a real phone i dont think

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 12:25 2

7. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2650; Member since: 26 May 2011)


No, the image is from the April Fools joke about an Amazon smartphone called the Blaze.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 12:56 1

9. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


was that joke created before anyone knew about the fire?? lol, that would actually be rather funny.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 20:29

24. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2650; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Yeah, it was an April Fools joke earlier this year. We didn't know the name of the Fire til September or October, right?

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 23:15

27. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


heck i dunno.. your the article expert :) umm. we've been hearing rumors for a little while, dont remember when they announced the name though.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 12:22 2

6. clevername (Posts: 1428; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


For that cost they could sell it for 200 off contract and still make a profit. A small profit, but selling fire at a loss shows they want market share over profit. That would seriously undercut the competition and got that price I don't think carriers would mind subsidizing 100-200 dollars. At that cost it could be sold for free on contract or even for $50.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 12:28

8. Whateverman (Posts: 3187; Member since: 17 May 2009)


I'd be interested in seeing what they could come up with, but Foxconn??? Really? Will there EVERY be any manufacturing done in the US by anyone? Rhetorical question, I know there is. I'm just saying...

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 12:56 8

10. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


not unless they find a way to legally import Chinese workers :(

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 13:16 5

11. Whateverman (Posts: 3187; Member since: 17 May 2009)


LOL!!! That was so wrong, on so many levels!

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 15:25

13. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


:) .

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 15:22

12. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


No one will have a problem with this phone being made by Foxconn because it's not an iPhone.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 15:26

14. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Foxconn makes consumer electronics for a number of well-known companies, including:
Acer Inc. (Taiwan)
Amazon.com (United States)[16]
Apple Inc. (United States)[17]
ASRock (Taiwan)
Barnes & Noble (United States)
Intel (United States)
Cisco (United States)
Hewlett-Packard (United States)[18]
Dell (United States)
Nintendo (Japan)
Nokia (Finland)[17]
Microsoft (United States)
MSI (Taiwan)
Motorola (United States)
Sony Ericsson (Japan/Sweden)[19]
Vizio (United States)

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 16:01 2

15. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


ok troll. oi

quick question.

How many foxconn factories have constant problems with suicide so bad that they install jumper nets. how many factories are built so fast that they forget to install ventillation systems, and then blow up killing and harming many workers? just the ones producing apple devices.

The only one that I possibly use from foxconn is the dell, but for some reason i thought they made desktops elsewhere. expand on that and find out what exactly dell is making in china.. phones/tablets or computers.

and try to answer without trying to start another flame war please. thanks.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 16:21

16. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Why do you think Foxconn workers making Apple products have different working conditions than other Foxconn workers?

Thanks for proving my point that you have no issue with amazon making phones and tablets through Foxconn.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 16:28 2

17. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


foxcon is a giant contracting company. I'd bet money that a client as large as apple gets a lot of say in what happens at those plants. And my understanding (dont quote me on it) is that it was Tim's job to oversee the foxconn contracts and other suppliers while SJ was in charge.

Never said I didnt have an issue with foxconn, taco. Dont put words in my mouth. I was simply making the distinction about why people get up in arms over APPLE-FOXCONN plants over other ones. You dont think that apple is going to stand up to the US telecoms, but be pushed around by some Chinese parts assembler do you?

And I looked it up. My dell desktop was made in the USA, not at foxconn. Thats where they make tablets, phones, and some laptops. they also have major factories in the US, india, malasia, and the phillipines.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 16:38

18. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


"Immediately after the allegations, Apple launched an investigation and worked with their manufacturers to ensure that conditions were acceptable to Apple.[205] In 2007, Apple started yearly audits of all its suppliers regarding worker's rights, slowly raising standards and pruning suppliers that did not comply. Yearly progress reports have been published since 2008."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc.#Labor_practices

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 16:40 1

19. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


He oversaw contracts not the plants. You're very naive if you only Foxconn workers making Apple products have had poor working conditions.

Also posted a link for you where Apple has stood up to poor working conditions. This is all information you willfully ignore. Your mind is made up and your only interested in info that supports your arguments.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 17:04 3

20. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


yes, keep the personal attacks coming. keep proving that you are incapable of a regular conversation.

you really never get tired of acting like a troll? seriously. geesh.

ok, lets try again.. now this time without resorting in personal attacks.. ok?




those progress reports are nice, but even with those "reports" the factory was built in 2011 and exploded.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/foxconn-explosion-apple-ipad-supply-impact-unclear-dangers-of-combustible-dust/49152



And all those suicides were still happening this year

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/06/apple-foxconn-suicide-pact_n_858504.html

neat excerpts from the article:
"Apple, which did not cut ties with Foxconn after determining the company had acted appropriately to prevent further suicides..."

including:
"Workers at Foxconn's Chengdu factory, which manufactures Apple products, must reportedly sign a pledge promising they will not commit suicide."
" Some workers allegedly view the provision as license for Foxconn to institutionalize them if it sees fit"

"According to the report, workers are routinely overworked, given only scarce breaks for food amidst abysmal living conditions. It found that employees work 174 regular hours each month, in addition to overtime: while the legal limit for overtime is 36 hours a month, workers routinely work 80 to 100 hours overtime in continuous shifts that do not allow for meal breaks."

"Apple has cut ties with other factories for violating overtime and child labor laws"
****but foxconn gets a pass***

" commended Foxconn for taking quick action on several fronts simultaneously, including hiring a large number of psychological counselors, establishing a 24-hour care center, and even attaching large nets to the factory buildings to prevent impulsive suicides," Apple said in a Supplier Report, going on to add that "Foxconn's response had definitely saved lives."

*** but none of the actions were actually IMPROVING workers conditions or enforcing labor laws.****



" Conditions described in the article, as taken from the report, are uniformly harsher in Chengdu than in the other locations. "

" Chengdu's sole buyer is Apple"

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 17:15

21. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


And you continue to ignore that Apple is one of just a dozen companies that use Foxconn.

See I'm not disputing that Foxconn doesn't have a+ working conditions. I'm sayi you're a hypocrite for holding Apple accountable and no one else.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 17:57 1

22. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


ahh.. you continue to miss the point.. no surprise.

ive already more than answered and debunked your second sentence. you continue to ignore everything I say unless for some reason i say "yes taco, you are absolutely right and i am a giant hippocrit"... everything else must be a wrong answer with you. Sorry, but if thats the case, your going to keep getting the "wrong" answer.


can you please just go troll somewhere else. i get tired of constantly looking down and seeing you trying to nip at my heels.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 18:32

23. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You responded to me. I was responding to wem comment.


Any logical person can understand Foxconn will run all their factories the same. You have zero proof of better working conditions in other factories. In fact the same factories could very well produce multiple products for different companies.

Yes you're a hypocrite

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 23:07 2

26. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


" Conditions described in the article, as taken from the report, are uniformly harsher in Chengdu than in the other locations. "

" Chengdu's sole buyer is Apple"


try actually reading a response before blind posting.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 00:44 2

28. BattleBrat (Posts: 1038; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


DAMMIT! Will you two stop! This isn't about Apple, this article is about Amazon, and the possibility they make be making a Phone, and if they do I'd wonder if it would have the Silk browser installed....

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 06:57 2

30. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i wish it would stop.

i wonder the size of such a phone. if the point of is is to be able to read books and consume media, id have to assume that its going to be a pretty decent sized screen.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 04:21

29. Ocean02 (Posts: 28; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)


Imagine if all carriers makes their own Phone and prioritize over it?!

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