Amazon may be developing a smartphone for 2012

25. Corpsemaker posted on 17 Nov 2011, 20:47 0 0

Cool name.

5. remixfa posted on 17 Nov 2011, 12:14 0 0

thats just a fan render. this is still talkin speculation from an analyst. they have like a 1 in 20 shot of being right.

That would be rather interesting. If the fire is successful, which it looks like it will be... i dont see why they wouldnt try their hand at phones.
If they keep the margins tight to increase sales while still putting in decent quality hardware and still allowing them to be easily unlocked.. it could become a very budget friendly hacker's phone.

7. MichaelHeller posted on 17 Nov 2011, 12:25 2 0

No, the image is from the April Fools joke about an Amazon smartphone called the Blaze.

9. remixfa posted on 17 Nov 2011, 12:56 1 0

was that joke created before anyone knew about the fire?? lol, that would actually be rather funny.

24. MichaelHeller posted on 17 Nov 2011, 20:29 0 0

Yeah, it was an April Fools joke earlier this year. We didn't know the name of the Fire til September or October, right?

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27. remixfa posted on 17 Nov 2011, 23:15 0 0

heck i dunno.. your the article expert :) umm. we've been hearing rumors for a little while, dont remember when they announced the name though.

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10. remixfa posted on 17 Nov 2011, 12:56 8 0

not unless they find a way to legally import Chinese workers :(

11. Whateverman posted on 17 Nov 2011, 13:16 5 0

LOL!!! That was so wrong, on so many levels!

13. remixfa posted on 17 Nov 2011, 15:25 0 0

:) .

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12. taco50 (banned) posted on 17 Nov 2011, 15:22 0 2

No one will have a problem with this phone being made by Foxconn because it's not an iPhone.

15. remixfa posted on 17 Nov 2011, 16:01 2 0

ok troll. oi

quick question.

How many foxconn factories have constant problems with suicide so bad that they install jumper nets. how many factories are built so fast that they forget to install ventillation systems, and then blow up killing and harming many workers? just the ones producing apple devices.

The only one that I possibly use from foxconn is the dell, but for some reason i thought they made desktops elsewhere. expand on that and find out what exactly dell is making in china.. phones/tablets or computers.

and try to answer without trying to start another flame war please. thanks.

16. taco50 (banned) posted on 17 Nov 2011, 16:21 0 2

Why do you think Foxconn workers making Apple products have different working conditions than other Foxconn workers?

Thanks for proving my point that you have no issue with amazon making phones and tablets through Foxconn.

17. remixfa posted on 17 Nov 2011, 16:28 2 0

foxcon is a giant contracting company. I'd bet money that a client as large as apple gets a lot of say in what happens at those plants. And my understanding (dont quote me on it) is that it was Tim's job to oversee the foxconn contracts and other suppliers while SJ was in charge.

Never said I didnt have an issue with foxconn, taco. Dont put words in my mouth. I was simply making the distinction about why people get up in arms over APPLE-FOXCONN plants over other ones. You dont think that apple is going to stand up to the US telecoms, but be pushed around by some Chinese parts assembler do you?

And I looked it up. My dell desktop was made in the USA, not at foxconn. Thats where they make tablets, phones, and some laptops. they also have major factories in the US, india, malasia, and the phillipines.

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18. taco50 (banned) posted on 17 Nov 2011, 16:38 0 3

"Immediately after the allegations, Apple launched an investigation and worked with their manufacturers to ensure that conditions were acceptable to Apple.[205] In 2007, Apple started yearly audits of all its suppliers regarding worker's rights, slowly raising standards and pruning suppliers that did not comply. Yearly progress reports have been published since 2008."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc.#Labor_practices

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19. taco50 (banned) posted on 17 Nov 2011, 16:40 1 3

He oversaw contracts not the plants. You're very naive if you only Foxconn workers making Apple products have had poor working conditions.

Also posted a link for you where Apple has stood up to poor working conditions. This is all information you willfully ignore. Your mind is made up and your only interested in info that supports your arguments.

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20. remixfa posted on 17 Nov 2011, 17:04 3 0

yes, keep the personal attacks coming. keep proving that you are incapable of a regular conversation.

you really never get tired of acting like a troll? seriously. geesh.

ok, lets try again.. now this time without resorting in personal attacks.. ok?




those progress reports are nice, but even with those "reports" the factory was built in 2011 and exploded.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/foxconn-explosion-apple-ipad-supply-impact-unclear-dangers-of-combustible-dust/49152



And all those suicides were still happening this year

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/06/apple-foxconn-suicide-pact_n_858504.html

neat excerpts from the article:
"Apple, which did not cut ties with Foxconn after determining the company had acted appropriately to prevent further suicides..."

including:
"Workers at Foxconn's Chengdu factory, which manufactures Apple products, must reportedly sign a pledge promising they will not commit suicide."
" Some workers allegedly view the provision as license for Foxconn to institutionalize them if it sees fit"

"According to the report, workers are routinely overworked, given only scarce breaks for food amidst abysmal living conditions. It found that employees work 174 regular hours each month, in addition to overtime: while the legal limit for overtime is 36 hours a month, workers routinely work 80 to 100 hours overtime in continuous shifts that do not allow for meal breaks."

"Apple has cut ties with other factories for violating overtime and child labor laws"
****but foxconn gets a pass***

" commended Foxconn for taking quick action on several fronts simultaneously, including hiring a large number of psychological counselors, establishing a 24-hour care center, and even attaching large nets to the factory buildings to prevent impulsive suicides," Apple said in a Supplier Report, going on to add that "Foxconn's response had definitely saved lives."

*** but none of the actions were actually IMPROVING workers conditions or enforcing labor laws.****



" Conditions described in the article, as taken from the report, are uniformly harsher in Chengdu than in the other locations. "

" Chengdu's sole buyer is Apple"

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22. remixfa posted on 17 Nov 2011, 17:57 1 0

ahh.. you continue to miss the point.. no surprise.

ive already more than answered and debunked your second sentence. you continue to ignore everything I say unless for some reason i say "yes taco, you are absolutely right and i am a giant hippocrit"... everything else must be a wrong answer with you. Sorry, but if thats the case, your going to keep getting the "wrong" answer.


can you please just go troll somewhere else. i get tired of constantly looking down and seeing you trying to nip at my heels.

23. taco50 (banned) posted on 17 Nov 2011, 18:32 0 2

You responded to me. I was responding to wem comment.


Any logical person can understand Foxconn will run all their factories the same. You have zero proof of better working conditions in other factories. In fact the same factories could very well produce multiple products for different companies.

Yes you're a hypocrite

26. remixfa posted on 17 Nov 2011, 23:07 2 0

" Conditions described in the article, as taken from the report, are uniformly harsher in Chengdu than in the other locations. "

" Chengdu's sole buyer is Apple"


try actually reading a response before blind posting.

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30. remixfa posted on 18 Nov 2011, 06:57 2 0

i wish it would stop.

i wonder the size of such a phone. if the point of is is to be able to read books and consume media, id have to assume that its going to be a pretty decent sized screen.