T-Mobile may announce iPhone next week
1. Aeires (unregistered)
On my T-Mobile N4, I got 25 megs download speed while sitting in my car at work, which is near Chicago. There's nothing wrong with T-Mobile using HSPA+, it's just depends on where you are in regards to the network. Same for LTE. If the iPhone can take advantage of the 42 meg network, there shouldn't be an issue.
7. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
That's the point though. The iPhone is not compatible with T-Mobile's HSPA+ network as is. There are only 10 markets in the country where iPhone users get 3g speeds on T-Mo, the rest is all EDGE.
11. Aeires (unregistered)
That's why my last sentence said if they can take advantage of the network it won't be an issue. If Apple lets them sell the iPhone without getting that capability, they deserve a public beating for it. If they want it on T-Mobile, they should include the chips to make it work properly.
14. metalpoet (unregistered)
This could be great if like everyone said, they make an iPhone that works for all of their network AND they improve their signal in all parts of the country because in utah and nevada, its pretty much crappy except for Salt Lake City and Las Vegas.
13. -box- (Posts: 3915; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Ugh, please no iphone on T-Mobile. I'm ok with the "bring your own" folks, but after seeing what it did to sprint and verizon, NO THANK YOU.
15. metalpoet (unregistered)
You do have a point, they get the iPhones and they jack up the prices for their plans, as if their stuff wasnt already expensive, having an iPhone to sell makes you feel as if your invincible and want to drain your customers of all their money!
21. tedkord (Posts: 5555; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
The iPhone is expensive for the carriers to subsidize. In order for carriers to maintain their profit margins, they're forcing the rest of us to help subsidize it. Its obscene.
22. Aeires (unregistered)
Deep down I agree because I was on Sprint when they got the iPhone and saw first hand how an average network got bad due to all the extra traffic. It's inevitable though, if they get it we can only hope the money AT&T had to pay them went towards beefing up their network.
30. -box- (Posts: 3915; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I don't know that it's inevitable. T-Mo's strategy has been working well being Android- and WP-centric (with BBs and non-smartphones and prepaids of course for good measure), and while they do have a fair amount of churn, they have positive numbers being the only refuge for unlimited data on a network that isn't mediocre. iphones are losing market share, and Android and WP have positive momentum.
2. snowgator (Posts: 3335; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
This will be a big moment for T-Mobile. While I agree they need the iPhone, I sure hope it is not a "put you in debt for the next 10 years like Sprint" deal.
4. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5975; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
"I sure hope it is not a "put you in debt for the next 10 years like Sprint" deal."
It probably will be a deal along those lines. Like Sprint, T-Mo doesn't have the subscriber population to interest Apple absent a contracted volume commitment. T-Mo has done their homework, and they know how many of their subscriber base would move to an iPhone. If the numbers work for T-Mo and Apple, a deal will be done.
8. caustictoast (Posts: 30; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)
The thing is why would Apple screw 2 of the big 4 while putting it on something like Cricket? It doesn't make sense. Sprint just decided to take a s**t deal. T-mo did just get a lot of money from AT&T for the failed acquisition so they are probably are riding off that high.
20. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5975; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
I suspect T-Mo has many uses for their cash (LTE build-out being one). If the numbers work for T-Mo & Apple, there will be a T-Mo edition iPhone. If not, there is still the grey market, where unlocked GSM iPhones run where they can.
3. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5975; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
The days of Apple picking and choosing who will sell the iPhone are over. If T-Mo makes a satisfactory volume commitment, Apple will produce a T-Mo edition of the iPhone. Sammy has been making sales at Apples expense.
16. denn90 (Posts: 14; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Are you high ? This Will not Help T-Mobile At all !!!!! Sprint Network Used to be Amazing Until The Iphone Join The Network and ended slowing Sprint Netowkr
32. darkkjedii (Posts: 13479; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Sprint was slow wayyyyy before the iPhone dude
34. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1671; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Maybe in some areas but it's come to a near screeching halt in my area since the iPhone became available.
38. darkkjedii (Posts: 13479; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Sprint needs to shore up their network, and get more aggressive with their lte rollout. They'll b fine them.
6. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
This could hurt Tmo as well, depending on the price tag to carry it.
9. cptbeatstix (Posts: 101; Member since: 19 Jul 2012)
Being a T-Mobile employee, we haven't heard of anything close to an iPhone being released for us. Our higher up said it was pretty much inevitable, but we we're waiting on a better price for the device. Hopefully this is true.
10. downphoenix (Posts: 2502; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
being a t-mobile employee, you probably also aren't told crap about stuff like this until everything is official, and sometimes the customers know before you do. That's because they dont tell employees that stuff early, since it can compromise these partnerships as well as be information that competitors can use to their advantage.
17. Schuler2828 (Posts: 58; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
I saw an iPhone in a store it wasn't for sure sale but said try me so they must have been trying to see who was interested it all said T-Mobile I think 3G I could be wrong.
12. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Michael, your info is wrong on 1900mhz coverage. Those are just the "official roll out areas".. and I think there's well more than 10 official anyways.
here's a map of confirmed 1900mhz markets by user usage.
Besides, I dont think its a big deal how they roll it out. Many of the major markets are 1900mhz or will be by the end of the year. And with them flipping on LTE in 2013 it becomes even more of a moot point. I hope its "value plan" pricing only so it doesnt crunch the carrier's already thin profitability and make them jack rates up. The iphone is not worth the pain of everyone else having to pay more for someone to get a subsidy.
And if this does turn out to be true, its a show of a crack in Apple's pride.... releasing the device on a network that it cant fully operate on, because its losing global market share. All of a sudden it needs access to those 35 million customers it didnt seem to care about before.
19. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I've seen the map and written an article about it, but that map doesn't help T-Mobile marketing because it isn't official.
33. wumberpeb (Posts: 449; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)
What's the difference in devices like the Evo 4G launching on a network that barely had any 4G coverage, and of course, still doesn't? Or the Evo 4G LTE launching on a network that hardly had any, and still doesn't, LTE coverage? That shouldn't stop them, as many devices launch without their full capabilities being immediately accessible.
While the EDGE speeds will certainly make you cringe, I'm sure T-Mobile is looking to speed up their 1900 Mhz conversion in anticipation of likely their most important device launch ever. You couldn't pay me to own an iPhone, but all the other major carriers offer it and there's no denying they lose customers because of it. As long as they don't get hosed in the short term to stay relevant long term, I'll be happy to see T-Mobile get the iPhone. A level playing field in terms of device offerings that allows carriers to promote their own network's strengths and let customers decide.
Remix is right, come next year with LTE and more 1900 mhz capable towers, this talk of struggling with an EDGE only network will be a moot point...
44. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yea, they are being very "mum" on the rollout. I would assume its to keep consumer confusion down about which phone gets 3g/4g and which phone doesnt.
Too many people think the iPhone is the bestestestest phone out there because its... an iphone and will think because the iphone has limited 3G all the other phones on TMobiles line up must as well.
18. gallitoking (Posts: 4693; Member since: 17 May 2011)
You can love the iphone, You can hate the iphone but definitely cannot ignore the iphone.
24. Aeires (unregistered)
My wallet can.
26. Droiddoes (unregistered)
Sure you can. What a stupid thing to say. Had you not capitalized that second 'you' then you would have had a complete, grammatically correct sentence. SO CLOSE!
37. Droiddoes (unregistered)
You should. You come off as having a seriously debilitating learning disability. If that's how you wish to present yourself to the world, cool, but maybe you would be taken ever so slightly more seriously than you are (which is to say not at all) if you could form a coherent thought and properly type it out.
23. Droiddoes (unregistered)
Yet another michael h article about an iphone/pad. Fresh and new.
25. skymitch89 (Posts: 1145; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)
I don't think that they will be selling T-Mobile specific iPhones, I'm sure that they will simply be selling unlocked iPhones.
28. Jyakotu (Posts: 824; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
You don't have to like the iPhone, but you cannot deny how it can impact a carrier. Sure, some companies had to increase prices in order to pay royalties to Apple, but at the same they, they gain subscribers. Sprint saw a gain in subscribers from the iPhone, due to unlimited data. T-Mobile USA could really benefit from the iPhone, due to their plans being so cheap.
29. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 535; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)
It's possible albeit unlikely that T-Mobile may start a limited roll of the iPhone out in markets that already have the bandwidth coverage for T-Mobile "4G".
39. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
So who will be the first in line for this? Better have at least $500 before you hit the counter.
40. ranman2305 (Posts: 2; Member since: 30 Nov 2012)
Regardless on tmobile currently you have to pay full price, of course you pay in installments on your bill but full price still. I have have the iPhone 5 on tmobile and it works great with tmobile 3G
42. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
I hope tmobile stays away from Iphone period.
43. jibraihimi (Posts: 698; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Who wants iPhone now a days..........???? Today I was checking some smartphones in a shop, and among all the smartphones like Galaxy S3, Note 2, HTC One X, Sony Xpearia S, LG Optimus G, Lumia 900 etc., iPhone 5 was looking like tiny baby; though I should admit that iPhone 5's screen was looking most bright and gorgeous among all of them, but it's size was looking very small, and it felt like tiny device, and above all there were scratches and dents all over it's side. One of my friend who is not so much into gadgets and new techs, even quipped that iPhone is looking very boring now days, as it still feels like phone of 2007 with it's old UI...............