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T-Mobile may announce iPhone next week

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T-Mobile may announce iPhone next week
It looks like the wait may be almost over, and the iPhone could be hitting the final major American mobile carrier soon. Word has it that T-Mobile may be announcing an official release of the iPhone as soon as next week. At this point, this is still all a rumor though, and nothing is officially confirmed. 

Basically, the rumor mill is starting to move faster, which is leading some to believe that T-Mobile may announce the release date of an official iPhone as soon as next week. According to Merrill Lynch's Scott Craig, "speculation is heightening", which of course doesn't really mean anything, but people will get excited anyway. 

Of course, the big question is what consumers should expect from a T-Mobile iPhone. The iPhone as is cannot use the T-Mobile 3G network, because the iPhone isn't compatible with T-Mobile's 1700Mhz and 2100Mhz bands, which are used for HSPA+. 

Right now, there are only 10 markets where iPhone users will get HSPA+ speeds on T-Mobile because the carrier has only rolled out the 1900Mhz HSPA+ compatibility in a few markets, and has not yet launched its LTE network. It's hard to believe that Apple is currently building a new iPhone variant specifically for T-Mobile. So, will customers get anything better than EDGE speeds?

source: Fortune

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posted on 29 Nov 2012, 13:42 5

1. Aeires (unregistered)

On my T-Mobile N4, I got 25 megs download speed while sitting in my car at work, which is near Chicago. There's nothing wrong with T-Mobile using HSPA+, it's just depends on where you are in regards to the network. Same for LTE. If the iPhone can take advantage of the 42 meg network, there shouldn't be an issue.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 14:17 8

7. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2707; Member since: 26 May 2011)

That's the point though. The iPhone is not compatible with T-Mobile's HSPA+ network as is. There are only 10 markets in the country where iPhone users get 3g speeds on T-Mo, the rest is all EDGE.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 14:40 4

11. Aeires (unregistered)

That's why my last sentence said if they can take advantage of the network it won't be an issue. If Apple lets them sell the iPhone without getting that capability, they deserve a public beating for it. If they want it on T-Mobile, they should include the chips to make it work properly.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 14:54 8

13. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

Ugh, please no iphone on T-Mobile. I'm ok with the "bring your own" folks, but after seeing what it did to sprint and verizon, NO THANK YOU.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 14:55 2

14. metalpoet (unregistered)

This could be great if like everyone said, they make an iPhone that works for all of their network AND they improve their signal in all parts of the country because in utah and nevada, its pretty much crappy except for Salt Lake City and Las Vegas.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 14:56 4

15. metalpoet (unregistered)

You do have a point, they get the iPhones and they jack up the prices for their plans, as if their stuff wasnt already expensive, having an iPhone to sell makes you feel as if your invincible and want to drain your customers of all their money!

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 15:57 4

21. tedkord (Posts: 13249; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

The iPhone is expensive for the carriers to subsidize. In order for carriers to maintain their profit margins, they're forcing the rest of us to help subsidize it. Its obscene.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 16:04 2

22. Aeires (unregistered)

Deep down I agree because I was on Sprint when they got the iPhone and saw first hand how an average network got bad due to all the extra traffic. It's inevitable though, if they get it we can only hope the money AT&T had to pay them went towards beefing up their network.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 17:16 1

30. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

I don't know that it's inevitable. T-Mo's strategy has been working well being Android- and WP-centric (with BBs and non-smartphones and prepaids of course for good measure), and while they do have a fair amount of churn, they have positive numbers being the only refuge for unlimited data on a network that isn't mediocre. iphones are losing market share, and Android and WP have positive momentum.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 13:49 6

2. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

This will be a big moment for T-Mobile. While I agree they need the iPhone, I sure hope it is not a "put you in debt for the next 10 years like Sprint" deal.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 13:53 1

4. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

"I sure hope it is not a "put you in debt for the next 10 years like Sprint" deal."

It probably will be a deal along those lines. Like Sprint, T-Mo doesn't have the subscriber population to interest Apple absent a contracted volume commitment. T-Mo has done their homework, and they know how many of their subscriber base would move to an iPhone. If the numbers work for T-Mo and Apple, a deal will be done.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 14:25 1

8. caustictoast (Posts: 31; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)

The thing is why would Apple screw 2 of the big 4 while putting it on something like Cricket? It doesn't make sense. Sprint just decided to take a s**t deal. T-mo did just get a lot of money from AT&T for the failed acquisition so they are probably are riding off that high.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 15:48

20. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

I suspect T-Mo has many uses for their cash (LTE build-out being one). If the numbers work for T-Mo & Apple, there will be a T-Mo edition iPhone. If not, there is still the grey market, where unlocked GSM iPhones run where they can.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 13:50 1

3. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

The days of Apple picking and choosing who will sell the iPhone are over. If T-Mo makes a satisfactory volume commitment, Apple will produce a T-Mo edition of the iPhone. Sammy has been making sales at Apples expense.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 13:58 3

5. Leon101 (Posts: 90; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)

This could actually help tmobile... ALOT!!!

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 15:03 3

16. denn90 (Posts: 14; Member since: 03 May 2011)

Are you high ? This Will not Help T-Mobile At all !!!!! Sprint Network Used to be Amazing Until The Iphone Join The Network and ended slowing Sprint Netowkr

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 17:37 1

32. darkkjedii (Posts: 23675; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Sprint was slow wayyyyy before the iPhone dude

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 18:22 1

34. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1733; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

Maybe in some areas but it's come to a near screeching halt in my area since the iPhone became available.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 21:20

38. darkkjedii (Posts: 23675; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Sprint needs to shore up their network, and get more aggressive with their lte rollout. They'll b fine them.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 14:01 5

6. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)

This could hurt Tmo as well, depending on the price tag to carry it.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 14:28 6

9. cptbeatstix (Posts: 101; Member since: 19 Jul 2012)

Being a T-Mobile employee, we haven't heard of anything close to an iPhone being released for us. Our higher up said it was pretty much inevitable, but we we're waiting on a better price for the device. Hopefully this is true.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 14:40 1

10. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

being a t-mobile employee, you probably also aren't told crap about stuff like this until everything is official, and sometimes the customers know before you do. That's because they dont tell employees that stuff early, since it can compromise these partnerships as well as be information that competitors can use to their advantage.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 15:24

17. Schuler2828 (Posts: 59; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)

I saw an iPhone in a store it wasn't for sure sale but said try me so they must have been trying to see who was interested it all said T-Mobile I think 3G I could be wrong.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 14:47 1

12. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Michael, your info is wrong on 1900mhz coverage. Those are just the "official roll out areas".. and I think there's well more than 10 official anyways.

here's a map of confirmed 1900mhz markets by user usage.


Besides, I dont think its a big deal how they roll it out. Many of the major markets are 1900mhz or will be by the end of the year. And with them flipping on LTE in 2013 it becomes even more of a moot point. I hope its "value plan" pricing only so it doesnt crunch the carrier's already thin profitability and make them jack rates up. The iphone is not worth the pain of everyone else having to pay more for someone to get a subsidy.

And if this does turn out to be true, its a show of a crack in Apple's pride.... releasing the device on a network that it cant fully operate on, because its losing global market share. All of a sudden it needs access to those 35 million customers it didnt seem to care about before.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 15:27 3

19. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2707; Member since: 26 May 2011)

I've seen the map and written an article about it, but that map doesn't help T-Mobile marketing because it isn't official.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 17:45 2

33. wumberpeb (Posts: 453; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)

What's the difference in devices like the Evo 4G launching on a network that barely had any 4G coverage, and of course, still doesn't? Or the Evo 4G LTE launching on a network that hardly had any, and still doesn't, LTE coverage? That shouldn't stop them, as many devices launch without their full capabilities being immediately accessible.

While the EDGE speeds will certainly make you cringe, I'm sure T-Mobile is looking to speed up their 1900 Mhz conversion in anticipation of likely their most important device launch ever. You couldn't pay me to own an iPhone, but all the other major carriers offer it and there's no denying they lose customers because of it. As long as they don't get hosed in the short term to stay relevant long term, I'll be happy to see T-Mobile get the iPhone. A level playing field in terms of device offerings that allows carriers to promote their own network's strengths and let customers decide.

Remix is right, come next year with LTE and more 1900 mhz capable towers, this talk of struggling with an EDGE only network will be a moot point...

posted on 01 Dec 2012, 03:42

44. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

yea, they are being very "mum" on the rollout. I would assume its to keep consumer confusion down about which phone gets 3g/4g and which phone doesnt.
Too many people think the iPhone is the bestestestest phone out there because its... an iphone and will think because the iphone has limited 3G all the other phones on TMobiles line up must as well.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 15:25 1

18. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

You can love the iphone, You can hate the iphone but definitely cannot ignore the iphone.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 16:06 4

24. Aeires (unregistered)

My wallet can.


posted on 29 Nov 2012, 16:16 2

26. Droiddoes (unregistered)

Sure you can. What a stupid thing to say. Had you not capitalized that second 'you' then you would have had a complete, grammatically correct sentence. SO CLOSE!

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